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Recall of US Senators who vote for Obamacare
Vanity ^ | 12/19/09 | me

Posted on 12/19/2009 11:02:57 AM PST by highlander_UW

18 states allow for recall votes on US Senators. The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin.

The Senate oath of office is:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

It is clear that the mandate requiring citizens to purchase insurance from private corporations is unconstitutional. As soon as the Senate votes on the "health care" bill 60 Senators will be in violation of their oath of office.

Some of the Senators are up for reelection but some are not and those should face recall votes based upon their failure to fulfill their oath of office.


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1 posted on 12/19/2009 11:03:00 AM PST by highlander_UW
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To: highlander_UW

Oooo, I usually don’t admire vanity. In this case I might make an excerption. LOL

Californians, what say ye?


2 posted on 12/19/2009 11:05:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Merry Christmans to all... and to all a good night! (remember the reason for the season))
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To: highlander_UW
Good idea if true. I always like to try to get even with my enemies.

Landrieu needs to go ASAP.

3 posted on 12/19/2009 11:06:27 AM PST by Wahoo82
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To: highlander_UW

People need to respond with civil disobedience. It is clear Congress has no intention of upholding the Constitution so it is up to the people.


4 posted on 12/19/2009 11:07:30 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: highlander_UW

How about starting with the recall of Begich in Alaska? He won by less than one percent after a phony indictment and conviction (thrown out) of Ted Stevens that occurred just a day or two before the election last November. How about a rematch?


5 posted on 12/19/2009 11:07:42 AM PST by laconic
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To: Wahoo82

I don’t live in Minnesota but getting rid of that ass-clown Al Franken would be outstanding.


6 posted on 12/19/2009 11:08:29 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats: the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy and Sedition)
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To: highlander_UW

I don’t think anyone will be actually recalled, but we need to develop asymetric means of fighting back. Just like the trivial attacks on Governor Palin, we need to allow them no rest and no sanctuary, until they are gone.


7 posted on 12/19/2009 11:09:37 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: highlander_UW
What action has to be iniated to get a recall petition?
8 posted on 12/19/2009 11:09:49 AM PST by papageo
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To: Wahoo82

I am in. I have posted here before that Landrieu is the highest paid whore in the history of LA.


9 posted on 12/19/2009 11:09:58 AM PST by joesjane (The strength of the pack is the wolf - Rudyard Kipling)
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To: highlander_UW

http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

How to Recall a U.S. Senator

Instructions

1.
Step 1

Consider your location. Few states allow for a recall of a senator—only 18 and the District of Columbia. If you’re not living in one of these states you have no constitutional rights to recall.
2.
Step 2

Determine the grounds for recall. You’ll need this information to make your case to the population but in 7 of the 18 states specific grounds are actually required. In these states, if your reasons don’t measure up, you won’t be allowed to proceed with the recall.
3.
Step 3

Get signatures. You’ll need a petition to get a recall election. The number of signatures is usually a percentage of the voters at the last election but this differs by state.
4.
Step 4

Prepare for a response. At some point during the process, the senator will be notified that a petition for recall is being circulated. She will then have a chance to respond to the allegations.
5.
Step 5

Get voters to the recall election. Once the recall election is granted, alert the community and get them out to vote. The ballot will ask whether or not the senator should be recalled and the state may hold an election at the same time to elect the next person for that office.

Tips & Warnings

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The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin.
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A website or a phone campaign are good ways to get your petition going. Going door-to-door is also an option although it is more time consuming than the other two. This is important since you only have a set number of days to obtain the correct number of signatures—anywhere from 30 to 180 days.
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You will be fighting an uphill battle to recall a U.S. Senator. No member of Congress has ever been recalled in the history of the United States.


10 posted on 12/19/2009 11:10:18 AM PST by maggief
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To: Ouderkirk

I agree, throw the clown out on the street.

And Begich behind him.


11 posted on 12/19/2009 11:10:28 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa,” said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: highlander_UW

Sounds like a plan. Think of how they got those evil 60. Stole an election (Franken) Smeared an innocent senator (Alaska), Switched parties (Spector), changed the rules ex post facto (Kennedy). Perhaps we can take it to court as illegitimate?


12 posted on 12/19/2009 11:10:53 AM PST by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: highlander_UW

How many times does this needs to be said?

You can not recall Senators or for that matter, Representatives. According to several court rulings on this issue, they are considered federal officials and thus cannot be recalled by their respective states.

Ask yourself this question: why is it that no member of congress has ever been recalled in the entire history of the United States?

Recall in and of itself is only possible in the 18 states that you mentioned, but this only applies to Governors, Mayors, State Senators, Councilmen/women, Assemblymen/women, etc. NOT to Senators or Representatives.

Aside from that, recalls are extremely rare and have happened maybe a dozen or so times in the history of the union, with the most famous recall being that of Gray Davis of California.

So, as much as I’d like to recall every single one of the bastards, I just don’t think it’s possible, legally.


13 posted on 12/19/2009 11:11:37 AM PST by kress
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To: highlander_UW

My guess of the liklihood of recall with what I know about the current political of the particular state.

Alaska - Yes
Arizona - Yes
California - No
Colorado - Yes
Georgia - Yes
Idaho - Yes
Kansas - Yes
Louisiana - Yes
Michigan - No
Minnesota - Maybe/Yes
Montana - Lean Yes
Nevada - Yes
New Jersey - Lean Yes
North Dakota - Yes
Oregon - Lean Yes
Rhode Island - Maybe
Washington - No
Wisconsin - Lean Yes


14 posted on 12/19/2009 11:13:32 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

We may not win a recall but it will be a distraction for the Senators and use up some of their resources.

Sometimes recalls work,Grey Davis comes to mind.


15 posted on 12/19/2009 11:13:44 AM PST by Wahoo82
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To: DoughtyOne
"Californians, what say ye?"

Count me in.

16 posted on 12/19/2009 11:13:44 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: papageo
What action has to be iniated to get a recall petition?

the poster in post 10 linked and listed the steps. It seems to me that a movement would be needed to be organized in each state. Some of the Senators are up for reelection so it'd be more effective effort wise to work against their reelection but in the cases where the senator is not up for reelection in 2010 it would be up to someone within each state to organize a recall campaign.

There has never been a successful recall but what could rise above violating the constitution and one's oath of office as grounds for a recall?

17 posted on 12/19/2009 11:14:33 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: kress
You can not recall Senators or for that matter, Representatives. According to several court rulings on this issue, they are considered federal officials and thus cannot be recalled by their respective states.

I believe you'll find that not all states fit your assumptions. There are 18 states that allow for recall elections. Now rather it can be accomplished or not is another matter entirely. But what better reason for a recall could their be other than a violation of the US Constitution and a breaking of one's oath of office?

18 posted on 12/19/2009 11:17:36 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: highlander_UW

Will not work. These people make up the rules. They will not abide by this.


19 posted on 12/19/2009 11:18:10 AM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne (Vote them out!))
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To: ColdOne
Will not work. These people make up the rules. They will not abide by this.

I am just pointing out that there is an avenue to attempt to remove some senators from office over this clear violation of the constitution. I do realize it's not a high probability. On the other hand what if just one Senator is able to be removed from office in this manner? Even one would be an indictment of them all.

20 posted on 12/19/2009 11:21:36 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: highlander_UW
Serious misinformation. A state constitution (which seems to provide for all elected leaders including US Senators) cannot violate the US Constitution, which provides for removal of Senators only under the rules of the Senate itself. Those currently require a 2/3rds vote to expel a Senator.

Congressman Billybob

Don't Tread On Me (9/12 photo and poster"

"Ben Franklin: On Science"

21 posted on 12/19/2009 11:22:01 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: highlander_UW

I would be available to wok for a recall. Get signatures, etc. I’m sure there would be plenty of other volunteers.


22 posted on 12/19/2009 11:22:52 AM PST by papageo
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To: Wahoo82
Grey Davis was a Governor. That's a state official. Senators are US officials, where the US Constitution rules. And that's the name of that tune.

John / Billybob

23 posted on 12/19/2009 11:25:16 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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To: maggief
No member of Congress has ever been recalled in the history of the United States.

This is an unprecedently unpopular and unnecessary piece of legislation. Also, the internet is a game changer.

24 posted on 12/19/2009 11:25:36 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Serious misinformation. A state constitution (which seems to provide for all elected leaders including US Senators) cannot violate the US Constitution, which provides for removal of Senators only under the rules of the Senate itself. Those currently require a 2/3rds vote to expel a Senator. Congressman Billybob

The information is from the internet, but what you say sounds right to me. Although it sounds like a real catch 22 if the only avenue to remove senators is to let the senators do it themselves when most of them share the same corruption.

25 posted on 12/19/2009 11:26:01 AM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: highlander_UW

I’mready to go down there and yank them by the neck out into the streets of the USA and HANG the all!

Dam the legalities, this is what the Constitution says is OUR duty if we want to keep our Republic.

Alter or Abolish!

Sink or swim.


26 posted on 12/19/2009 11:26:12 AM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: highlander_UW

Do they accept web signatures?


27 posted on 12/19/2009 11:26:18 AM PST by NowApproachingMidnight (purple durple lips)
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To: highlander_UW

I’mready to go down there and yank them by the neck out into the streets of the USA and HANG the all!

Dam the legalities, this is what the Constitution says is OUR duty if we want to keep our Republic.

Alter or Abolish!

Sink or swim.


28 posted on 12/19/2009 11:26:18 AM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: highlander_UW

While eighteen states allow “recall”, the U.S. Senate does NOT recognize the legitimacy of these state laws. So Mary Landrieu and Ben Nelson are safe for life.


29 posted on 12/19/2009 11:27:32 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Nateman

Ultimately, it is the fault of the American people who are too uninformed to remain free.


30 posted on 12/19/2009 11:29:57 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: highlander_UW

Cannot be legally done. The communists party (formally the Democratic Party) know this. Why are they so arrogant? Because they lean communistic and believe that the King Obama machine with the likes of ACORN and unions that they will not be thrown in 2010. Like the Franken case, they will fraudulently sway the election. And they might be right!


31 posted on 12/19/2009 11:30:47 AM PST by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: highlander_UW

Interesting idea however I think they know it is unconstitutional and quite frankly that is the plan.

We pay taxes for years into a bogus system mandating we buy insurance from a private company meanwhile the legal battle rages on the constitutionality of it all...

Of course it will be ruled unconstitutional and the government will say...well all these people paid these “TAXES” and now we can’t let this fail it is too big. So we will drop the mandate to purchase from a private company and we will just have the government private the insurance...that is allowed...however would not get any public support.

The entire thing is a scam and this will lead to civil war once people figure out what the hell is going on here.

We are in the middle of a CO2mmunist takeover of our free country.


32 posted on 12/19/2009 11:33:00 AM PST by surfer
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To: highlander_UW
FUDGE!! Nebraska ain't there!!! OH well, we'll just have to picket his state home on Christmas and show the face of the ANGRY American folk on his front lawn. WE MUST MAKE THOSE BASTARDS PAY...NOW!!
33 posted on 12/19/2009 11:36:01 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: Logical me
THEN WHY THE FUDGE DON'T THE PUBS grow a few and call them out for what the RATS are... COMMUNIST, SOCIALIST...WHY THE FEAR?? UGH...I’m so angry I’m ready to....ugh....
34 posted on 12/19/2009 11:39:41 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: DarthVader

I disagree. With exception of the west coast cities, the rest, especially the eastern part, are conservatives.


35 posted on 12/19/2009 11:48:09 AM PST by gunner03
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To: highlander_UW

okay, we use lawsuits to tie up this unconstitutional obamacare, we also start civil disobedience, and we start the recall process. just because it hasn’t been done before doesn’t mean it CAN’T be done. all the states that don’t have recall measures, we start putting them on ballots and let the people of the states vote for recall measures.


36 posted on 12/19/2009 11:48:29 AM PST by gopalingo
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To: Wahoo82
I always like to try to get even with my enemies.

It is not a good idea to get even with your enemies, it is best to get ahead of your enemies.

37 posted on 12/19/2009 11:57:29 AM PST by Will we know the moment
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To: highlander_UW

On the other hand what if just one Senator is able to be removed....... I feel if they thought that would happen none of this would be going on. They are not afraid of the people anymore. Although should an attempt be made to recall them, count me in. I lived in California during Gray Davis recall. Vote Them Out!


38 posted on 12/19/2009 12:01:43 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne (Vote them out!))
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To: Theodore R.

I think Nelson will retire when his term ends (five more years).


39 posted on 12/19/2009 12:16:15 PM PST by freespirited (People talk about "too big to fail." Our government is too big to succeed. --Chris Chocola)
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To: highlander_UW
Makes you wish that the Seventeenth Amendment had never been passed, doesn't it.

That can be next after we repeal the Sixteenth.

40 posted on 12/19/2009 1:38:15 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Been collecting pitchforks for years - now I know why!)
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To: Theodore R.
While eighteen states allow “recall”, the U.S. Senate does NOT recognize the legitimacy of these state laws. So Mary Landrieu and Ben Nelson are safe for life.

Congressman Billybob in post 21 pointed that out regarding the removal of a senator. We do need a way to make government afraid of the people again instead of the overlords of the people.

41 posted on 12/19/2009 1:38:56 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: ColdOne
Vote Them Out!

Not only vote them out by make sure the whole world knows they lost their election because they violated the constitution. Politicians are cravenly cowards at heart for the most part, so it shouldn't take too many voted out obviously based upon their violations of the oath of office before the rest begin to catch a clue.

42 posted on 12/19/2009 1:41:54 PM PST by highlander_UW (To anger a conservative tell him a lie. To anger a liberal tell him the truth.)
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To: DoughtyOne

I don’t think we can do that in CA.


43 posted on 12/19/2009 2:36:47 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

...Michigan...


44 posted on 12/19/2009 4:31:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...
If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.

Neither MI Senator will be the target of any kind of recall action, IMO. Stabusall may be vulnerable when her number comes up again, but Comrade Carl will be casting votes from his grave.

45 posted on 12/19/2009 6:27:02 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Wahoo82
We may not win a recall but it will be a distraction for the Senators and use up some of their resources.

Exactly so. If a state has no recall provision start one anyway. The ripples will go in all directions.

Best regards,

46 posted on 12/19/2009 6:28:22 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: highlander_UW
Freep this poll:

Would you vote in a special election to recall Senator Kay Hagen?

Best regards,

47 posted on 12/19/2009 6:36:30 PM PST by Copernicus (California Grandmother view on Gun Control http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=7CCB40F421ED4819)
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To: highlander_UW

Include South Carolina in your list.

The problem, though, is the 17th amendment. The five fascists on the SC will claim that states can’t recall senators, even though the laws are still on the books for state legislatures to recall senators.

We have more than enough ammo to impeach and remove the five fascists on the SC. The problem is that we need a constitutional congress willing to act. If citizens need to do the work that congress won’t, it will be a bloody, messy affair.


48 posted on 12/19/2009 6:39:09 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Ouderkirk
I do live in the frozen sh*thole of a State. Getting rid of Socialist Franken and Commie Klobuchar would be good indeed.

Anyone know where I can file the paperwork on them? Point me in a direction and lets get rolling.

49 posted on 12/19/2009 6:45:20 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Always Independent

While I don’t know the rules, California is on the list of states that car recall its senators. That doesn’t mean the rules aren’t prohibitive though.


50 posted on 12/19/2009 10:22:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Merry Christmans to all... and to all a good night! (remember the reason for the season))
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