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Naked at home, convicted of indecent exposure
AP ^ | December 20, 2009 | Matthew Barakat

Posted on 12/20/2009 3:01:27 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

FAIRFAX, Va. - As Erick Williamson sees it, being naked is liberating, and if passers-by get an eyeful while he's standing in front of a picture window, that's not his problem.

A Fairfax County judge saw it differently Friday, convicting Williamson, 29, of indecent exposure in a case that raised questions about what's OK when you're in your own home.

Two women said they saw much more of Williamson than they cared to in October, even though he never left his home. He received neither jail time nor a fine but is appealing anyway, saying a larger principle is at stake.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: fairfaxcounty; naked; privacy; propertyrights; ruling; virginia; williamson
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1 posted on 12/20/2009 3:01:29 PM PST by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

I read this story when he first arrested and I thought, what a waste of time, but as usual I am dumbfounded as to how our court system works...


2 posted on 12/20/2009 3:05:15 PM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: GregNH
In all fairness to the court system, there are some people who shouldn't be seen naked, even in private. LOL


3 posted on 12/20/2009 3:08:42 PM PST by Viking2002 (Old fishermen never die. They just smell that way.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AOikY323zc


4 posted on 12/20/2009 3:10:35 PM PST by mkjessup (Dec 20, 1941 - President Franklin D. 0bama changes his name to "Kyushu 0bama San")
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To: All

Here’s a very detailed account of the incidents:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/18/AR2009121804027.html


5 posted on 12/20/2009 3:11:21 PM PST by Cindy
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To: ConservativeStatement

If he’s standing in front of a picture window, without curtains or blinds being drawn, like that on purpose, he intended to give passersby “a show”.


6 posted on 12/20/2009 3:13:19 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The woman was a busy body cops wife, she was a nut from the get go, the same as her half wit of a husband. Actually probably did not know they made them that big. LOL


7 posted on 12/20/2009 3:13:30 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: ConservativeStatement

The woman was a busy body cops wife, she was a nut from the get go, the same as her half wit of a husband. Actually probably did not know they made them that big. LOL


8 posted on 12/20/2009 3:13:39 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

What if it was your kids passing by and he’s posing for them?


9 posted on 12/20/2009 3:15:53 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: ConservativeStatement

“larger principle is at stake.”

Yeah what? The women objected to seeing this guys little thimble in the window. Sounds to me like he is no Tiger Woods!


10 posted on 12/20/2009 3:16:33 PM PST by Dem Guard
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To: ConservativeStatement

If a man is observed by a women naked in his own home he gets charged with indecent exposure, if a women is naked in her own home and is observed by a man he gets charged as a peeping tom.
Jack


11 posted on 12/20/2009 3:17:55 PM PST by btcusn
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To: DannyTN
ROIFLOL, you haven't seen the distance from the front of the house have you. If the bitch had minded her own business she would not have been able to see anything.
12 posted on 12/20/2009 3:18:21 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: F15Eagle
Yeah, he sounds like an exhibitionist trying to get away with it by using his home as a privacy defense. Nothing private about standing nude in front of a picture window. That's BS.
13 posted on 12/20/2009 3:18:21 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Viking2002
"In all fairness to the court system, there are some people who shouldn't be seen naked, even in private. LOL"

I know what you mean....


14 posted on 12/20/2009 3:18:28 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: DannyTN
What if it was your kids passing by and he’s posing for them?

It is MY responsibility to turn away and tell my kids to do the same.

15 posted on 12/20/2009 3:18:49 PM PST by libh8er
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To: ConservativeStatement

He’s probably one of those types that Sen. Whitehouse was talking about.


16 posted on 12/20/2009 3:22:05 PM PST by donhunt ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." - Tacitus)
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To: ConservativeStatement

In some states/cities women can walk around nude and topless but someone inside their own home can be found guilty?

He must be pretty ugly.

heh.


17 posted on 12/20/2009 3:27:08 PM PST by GeronL
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To: OldDeckHand
AAAAUUUGGHHHHH!!!! There goes my appetite. And my libido. Looks like I ain't getting nothin' from nothin' tonight. Better go tell the wife. And excuse me if I use your name in vain in the process.


18 posted on 12/20/2009 3:31:52 PM PST by Viking2002 (Old fishermen never die. They just smell that way.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I agree with you.
Sounds like he was looking for an audience.


19 posted on 12/20/2009 3:32:54 PM PST by ronniesgal (Merry Christmas early, and a Happy Channukah!)
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To: btcusn

They were discussing this on Fox today and someone made precisely that point about the difference in how a woman or a man would be treated.


20 posted on 12/20/2009 3:34:21 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: ConservativeStatement
A head shot of the perp:


21 posted on 12/20/2009 3:35:06 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

The original story, like this one, suggested that the woman and her son were taking a shortcut through this guy’s yard. If so, then that’s their problem.

But this story says that a second witness, the librarian, saw him naked through a picture window from her car on the street. If so, that strikes me as another matter entirely.

Sure, you can run around your home or property naked, but I don’t think you have a right to do it where people can see you from the street or sidewalk or other public property. Pull the curtains, or put some clothes on.

It certainly sounds as if this jerk was not just naked in private, but was deliberately flashing himself in public. That’s not right.


22 posted on 12/20/2009 3:39:51 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ConservativeStatement

That this case made it to a courtroom is shocking. A woman, on private property without permission, looks in someone’s window and then calls the cops because she sees someone naked? Arrest her for being a peeping tom, and overturn this idiotic conviction.


23 posted on 12/20/2009 3:42:47 PM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
I don't know much about this guy and I probably don't agree with a lot of his political views, but I do support his right to walk around in his own home naked.

What sort of nonsense is this that he get dragged into court just because some busybody was walking by and reported him? They (the police) should have just laughed at this woman - even if her own husband is a cop too. Hell, if I was a cop and my wife reported something like that, I'd laugh at her too.

There used to be a time in America when old cranks and nutcases just got laughed at. These days, we give them way too much attention.

24 posted on 12/20/2009 3:49:55 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 5 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: SamAdams76
There used to be a time in America when old cranks and nutcases just got laughed at. These days, we give them way too much attention.

Meanwhile...the place is crawling with registered "sex offenders".

25 posted on 12/20/2009 3:53:10 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: SamAdams76
There used to be a time in America when old cranks and nutcases just got laughed at.

Do you think that a 29 year old man exposing himself over a couple of hours from his windows would be ignored in 1790, or dealt with in a much more harsh manner than today.

26 posted on 12/20/2009 4:07:25 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12; SamAdams76
Do you think that a 29 year old man exposing himself over a couple of hours from his windows would be ignored in 1790, or dealt with in a much more harsh manner than today.

He'd likely be "clothed" with tar and feathers.

29 posted on 12/20/2009 4:15:43 PM PST by thecodont
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Yes officer - he’s walking around naked. If you’d care to step into the bathroom and step on the toilet and if you stretch yourself real high and lean to the left a bit you can focus your binoculars on his bedroom window” ...


30 posted on 12/20/2009 4:18:46 PM PST by SkyDancer ('Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not..' ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ansel12

As I recall, Benjamin Franklin was fond of “air baths”. . .

Nobody seems to be looking down on HIM. . .


31 posted on 12/20/2009 4:21:17 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: ansel12
Do you think that a 29 year old man exposing himself over a couple of hours from his windows would be ignored in 1790, or dealt with in a much more harsh manner than today.

We'll never know because the person trespassing on his property would have been shot and killed.

32 posted on 12/20/2009 4:42:50 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 5 days away from outliving Lefty Frizzell)
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To: ConservativeStatement

If I recall the story correctly, this guy was making his morning coffee alone in his kitchen, when some woman decided to cut through his property on her way to somewhere else, and, not content with that, peered into his window. She should have been convicted both of criminal trespass and of peeping.


33 posted on 12/20/2009 4:44:57 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: DannyTN

“What ifs..” You can play that game forever.. it wasn’t a kid and it didn’t happen.

Kind a like TV.. you don’t like what you see change the channel. I don’t go around looking in peoples windows even from the street... apparently this b-itch did.

They talked about this on Fox this morning and they brought up an interesting comparison, if it was a woman naked and a guy saw her the guy would be convicted of a peeping tom..


34 posted on 12/20/2009 4:45:15 PM PST by maddog55 (Socialism is communism with fewer re-education camps)
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To: SamAdams76

Come back to earth, a mother and her 7 year old child walking on a path by a house would not have been gunned down in 1790, and especially by a naked man that wanted to expose himself.

By the way, two hours before that a woman that witnessed him from her car, called the police, who responded, but saw nothing when they came to look.


35 posted on 12/20/2009 5:10:12 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: Salgak

Did Franklin expose himself to the women and children of the neighborhood?

Give me the source so that I can learn more.


36 posted on 12/20/2009 5:13:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ansel12

Did this guy ? He was in his house. Last time I checked, the “Home is your Castle” doctrine was still in effect. .


37 posted on 12/20/2009 5:20:53 PM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Salgak

I’m going to guess that you were taking liberties when you implied that Ben Franklin used to expose himself to the women and children of the neighborhood.

In this case, over two hours, two different women said that their attention was drawn by noises to the sight of a naked man exposing himself. One woman from her car through the large front window and another woman and child when the man opened his screen door and stood there, exposing himself to the women and child.

The second incident involving the child, happened after the police had already responded to one report of his exposing himself.


38 posted on 12/20/2009 5:38:23 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
I occasionally will walk around the house in my undies, but I am careful to not walk where I can be viewed publicly. I think most reasonable understand that yes, you can be viewed if you live close enough to the street. Now if someone is walking in my yard and gets around my back windows, that is their fault, not mine.

I think any sane judge would understand this. The problem lies in people that will take this ruling (if found not guilty) and use it for other purposes. Imagine a person that gets large screen tv's and put them up showing porn 24/7 where it is viewable from the road and sidewalks.

I can see people donating (a collection jar like some Christmas homes use) to walk around yards where women are naked in a house to skirt anti nude rules in a town.

The potential for abuse would be huge.

Innocent ... walking around the house after a shower to get a glass of tea before getting dressed to cool off around the back kitchen area and someone gets an eyeful while crossing your lawn.

Not innocent..... standing in a uncovered backlit window doing lewd behavior in plain view of those at sidewalk distance for hours at a time.

39 posted on 12/20/2009 5:54:58 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: ansel12
Do you think that a 29 year old man exposing himself over a couple of hours Walking around the INTERIOR of his house (with or without the drapes drawn)would be ignored in 1790, or dealt with in a much more harsh manner than today?

Well, in all honesty, in the "best case" scenario, I think that the woman and child who were TRESPASSING on the "sex-offender's" property (had he seen them) would be far more likely to be bearing the effects of ROCKSALT from a shotgun than even DREAMING of whining to the local constabulary!

In 1790, this woman would have been pilloried and punished for her lack of respect for property, her husband would have been laughed out of town, and the whole family would forever be stained for their association with criminal trespass, even though only mama was the perp.

You asked...

40 posted on 12/20/2009 7:06:53 PM PST by Don W (I keep some people's numbers in my phone so I know not to answer when they call)
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To: Don W

Two different women over two hours, one from a car on the street that called police and the second two hours later on a pathway near the house when he opened the screen door to expose himself to the mother and child, he was looking for an audience, he would not have shot the mother and child.

In the fifties, this guy would have been due an ass whipping and the authorities, and the same in the 1790s.


41 posted on 12/20/2009 7:13:59 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: btcusn

GOOD POINT


42 posted on 12/20/2009 7:16:31 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: DannyTN
What if it was your kids passing by and he’s posing for them?

What if your kids saw this statue in an art museum?


43 posted on 12/20/2009 8:48:15 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: ansel12
Did Franklin expose himself to the women and children of the neighborhood?

John Quincy Adams did. He regularly skinny dipped in the Potomac. He was caught there by one of the first female journalists.

44 posted on 12/20/2009 9:23:32 PM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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To: LexBaird

We all know about the female reporter story but I was unaware of the women and children being exposed to his nakedness, will you post your source for that part?


45 posted on 12/20/2009 9:26:46 PM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I used to live next door to nudists when I lived in DC. It never dawned on me I could call and complain they weren’t into the whole keeping their curtains drawn. However, their house was set back from the street, it was only their neighbors who got the full monty.
This ruling makes the libertarian in me rather nervous.


46 posted on 12/20/2009 9:39:21 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: ansel12; ConservativeStatement

I disagree: BOTH those peepers would have been ridiculed and estranged from their community for invading the privacy of the subject of their complaint.

That said, what kind of man struts around his home in the altogether for several HOURS?

I maintain that HE is NOT the problem, but there are several issues here that are not addressed by this OLD story. Posting the SAME story 3 or more months later without ANY updates is IDIOTIC!!

Or is our FRiend just a moron? OLD news is not NEWS, it’s OLD!


47 posted on 12/20/2009 10:31:25 PM PST by Don W (I keep some people's numbers in my phone so I know not to answer when they call)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Why didn’t the cops arrest the peeping Tammies? I thought looking through peoples windows to get your jollies was a crime in most states and cities?


48 posted on 12/20/2009 10:44:51 PM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who wont even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day)
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To: ConservativeStatement

I worked 2nd shift for years after I retired from the Navy, got real tired of these people knocking on my door about 10:00 AM 3-4 times a week to save my soul. Answered the door ONE time naked, with nothing in my hands except my 1911. Never got bothered again.
Jack


49 posted on 12/21/2009 3:01:43 AM PST by btcusn
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To: Don W
There were no peepers, one woman called police after seeing a man exposing himself to her when she was in her car, while he was at the front window, the other woman and her child were walking on a path close to the house, two hours later, (about 8:40am) when the same man opened his screen door and stood there exposing himself as they walked by.

One victim called the police who drove by to see if they noticed anything and two hours later the second victim called police, peepers are charged, in this case there were no peepers, only a flasher that was convicted of exposing himself.

Those are full length windows, he also opened a door to expose himself to the mother and child (for them he did a door and a window), is what the jury found.
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50 posted on 12/21/2009 8:10:08 AM PST by ansel12 (Traitor Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative warrior.)
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