Posted on 12/21/2009 10:05:52 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
I never said Hamilton was clueless. Far from it. The only one I said was clueless was Madison.
Agree on each and every point. Nice summary.
Thanks
You are welcome. That book was published in 1940. It isn’t the typical articles sucked/Constitution great presentation. It’s the other side of the argument.
Good Read. You will be outraged.
by the time that AS was published, the gulag system and tyranny were in place for how many decades...five? And how many innocents were tortured and murdered in that fifty odd years. Millions! And even more after piblication. I’d say that was a bit late! The intent today is to prevent the disaster that AS wrote about after the fact and to not have millions of Americans suffer the same fate by acting early. AS did great work, but the real efforts to prevent tyranny should have been done decades earlier. Do you recall AS’s qoute about how their hearts burned that they had not acted violently toward the secret police each time they knocked on the door of an apt and behind it weren’t men armed with shovels, axes etc. and that they should have instilled fear in the secret police that each night they went to do the round ups they never knew if they’d live to see their family in the morning. AS was not as passive as your post implies! *this sent from phone, so can’t quote AS exactly. maybe another freeper can help*
thankfully, we are not at soviet tyranny today and such actions are not necessary here. however, in the USSR...scary stuff there and for those souls
BTTT
Nearly every government K-12 teacher absolutely **is** one of the people described above. The rest, like the Marxist, Bill Ayers, or the pedophile sex abusers are truly evil!
Remember this paragraph above the next time you meet a government K-12 teacher who is "just doing her job" and loves her cat.
Actually it was Henry who was clueless.
lol. That’s pretty good.
Randolph and Yates were fairly dim bulbs too.
Stop it. Yer killing me. lol.
Yeah right. Find me a lefty who says the Constitution made too powerful a national government. Find me a lefty that says we were better off as a confederacy. Lefties whine about the founders owning slaves and crap like that. You never hear me getting into any of that.
The Constitution put the philosophy of our Declaration into practice.
No it didn't. The Declaration says the people have a right to alter or abolish their government. The Constitution says they must first get 2/3rds of each house to vote for it, then they need to get 3/4th of the state legislatures. Big difference.
What would be the underlying philosophy of Huck's perfect government?
That government is nothing more than a choice among evils.
It must be awful to be you, unable like any lefty to love his country.
It's fine to be me. I am happy to live in the USA. Hell, I'm happy living in NJ. I don't have to lie to myself to be happy. Life is interesting. It's fascinating. The quest for understanding is quite enjoyable. I don't have to pull the wool over my own eyes. I'm not squeamish.
btrl
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you’d be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur — what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!”
Claire Wolfe seems to have underground in the last few years — last blog posting from her, I think, was some time back in 2007. It would be interesting to see what she would have to write about what’s going on today — no doubt, it would be something provocative and razor-sharp.
She had been writing for Backwoods Home and now makes her life in the High Desert.
I’m sure I have not earned the right here to tell people what they must or cannot post, but this baiting upsets me. My understanding is each of us has signed on here because they share an ideal. History is not bereft of examples of how ignoring signs of tyrannical abuse facilitated more abuse. Let us please stop arguing amongst ourselves.
Self preservation I think should be the goal here, not fighting amongst ourselves or threatening others. That’s my opinion. If history tells us anything, it’s that actions like these are followed by aggression of its own. We won’t need to go looking for trouble because it will find [us] trouble without anyone’s (other) assistance. Actually, it’s been finding [us] for years but we’ve collectively been ignoring the signs, perhaps because the alternative was too dear. If we follow in suit, the wolf will get hungrier. The choice is ours. We may follow many others when future generations ask us “Why did you not stop it? Why did you let THAT happen?”
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