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Dems anticipate a health care bounce [in O's approval rating]
Politico ^ | 12/21/09 | Ben Smith

Posted on 12/21/2009 3:45:01 PM PST by freespirited

There's no point in the White House saying this, so it won't.

But an official predicted to me the other day that Obama's numbers would hit 60 after the health care bill passes, and Chuck Schumer seems to think roughly the same thing: that the public polling on the Democratic reform bill will turn around "soon."

When people see what is in this bill and when people see what it does, they will come around," Schumer said. "The reason people are negative is not the substance of the bill, but the fears that the opponents have laid out. When those fears don't materialize, and people see the good in the bill, the numbers are going to go up."


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1 posted on 12/21/2009 3:45:01 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited

With 65% of the country agaisnt it and the far left hating if for it’s lack of socialism?


2 posted on 12/21/2009 3:46:34 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
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To: freespirited

These people are totally delusional.


3 posted on 12/21/2009 3:46:37 PM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: freespirited

If the bill is that good, why is it never posted until the last minute, and voted on in the dead of night?

You and the bill can’t stand the light of day!


4 posted on 12/21/2009 3:47:01 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (If you need a < / sarc> tag, you're not paying attention.)
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To: freespirited

More like a bounce into outerspace of his negative ratings.

Wonder if Olberman is still ready to go to jail.


5 posted on 12/21/2009 3:48:30 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: TennesseeGirl

OK Now they have completely lost the plot.

The numbers are down because the majority do not want this and they think passing it will make their numbers go up.

What ever have they been drinking up on the hill?


6 posted on 12/21/2009 3:49:31 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman, end of. -end racism end affirmative action)
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To: freespirited

Is this satire?

WE’VE BEEN QUOTING PARTS OF THE DAMN THING FOR MONTHS!

What this jackass just said is that they didnt care enough to tell people what’s in it, most of them didnt read it, but somehow socialized medicine is going to be so sweet that 60% of people will magically LIKE this?

Are these people F’ing retarded? These people are loony toons!


7 posted on 12/21/2009 3:49:49 PM PST by VanDeKoik (Iran doesnt have a 2nd admendment. Ya see how that turned out?)
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To: freespirited

Let the polls show the public in the mood for an execution of 60 Senators


8 posted on 12/21/2009 3:50:54 PM PST by tophat9000 (Obama has "Jumped The Shark" ...and fell in the shark tank)
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To: freespirited
But an official predicted to me the other day that Obama’s numbers would hit 60 after the health care bill passes”

I agree.
0bozo’s numbers will hit 60 after the abominable health care bill passes alright..60% DISapproval.

9 posted on 12/21/2009 3:51:15 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: TennesseeGirl

These people are totally delusional.

I’m with you, these people have been telling
the BIG lie for so long it all seems natural
to them.

Of course the bad thing for Omama is that this
won’t go into effect for two years yet and will
take another year after that to kick in.
He’ll be lucky not to be ridden out of town
on a rail covered in tar.


10 posted on 12/21/2009 3:51:38 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: freespirited

Has anyone actually read the bill?


11 posted on 12/21/2009 3:52:02 PM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: TennesseeGirl
That was my first thought too.
12 posted on 12/21/2009 3:52:25 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Harry Reid - Pimp of the US Senate)
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To: freespirited
But an official predicted to me the other day that Obama's numbers would hit 60 after the health care bill passes

Since this is `take drugs` healthcare, I guess hallucenogens are included in the package...
13 posted on 12/21/2009 3:53:31 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Money can be paid to certain persons, who ‘develop’ algorithms to ‘poll’ ‘random’ samplings of other ‘certain persons’ that, in turn, receive a nice, little ‘extra something’ to make Christmas go well.

Polling? Who needs polls when you have the answer key?


14 posted on 12/21/2009 3:54:38 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah."Our middle regiment, Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: freespirited

I predict a 5pt Dead Cat Bounce than a plunge down to 23-26% when everyone realizes the people they elected flipped them the bird.


15 posted on 12/21/2009 3:54:49 PM PST by dila813
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To: freespirited

For their argument to have any merit whatsoever, wouldn’t they have been climbing over each other to read the bill?


16 posted on 12/21/2009 3:55:24 PM PST by blackdog
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To: TennesseeGirl
These people are totally delusional.

You're wrong, they know exactly what they are doing. I dont think they believe this for a second, and dont care. They are willing to take a hit in '10 and '12 to get this passed because it's the beginning of the end.

17 posted on 12/21/2009 3:55:33 PM PST by 03A3
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To: freespirited

The one thing the GOP can do to make sure this thing is repealed is make sure no one can fix this piece of dog poo.

This bill is so bad, people are going to start screaming soon.


18 posted on 12/21/2009 3:56:22 PM PST by dila813
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To: Uncle Miltie
“If the bill is that good ~”... one might also add if it's that good why have the House and Senate excluded themselves and their staff, unions and federal workers. We are about to embark on a two tier system of an upper tier coverage by private insurance and the best doctors and a lower tier coverage provided by single payer nationalized plan with mediocre over worked and under motivated doctors with serious and life/death decisions made by a GS-5. Those of who voted for Obama and are not in one of the privileged categories, well, you are screwed. That's the only thing funny about this.
19 posted on 12/21/2009 3:56:51 PM PST by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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Capice?


20 posted on 12/21/2009 3:57:15 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah."Our middle regiment, Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: freespirited

Okay, before I read the comments, let me say right now that IF this is true I will be sooooooo depressed.

Let me say right now that I don’t think it’s true for a minute. I think Obamer’s ratings will plummet.

Interested in hearing how the rest of you think this will end.


21 posted on 12/21/2009 3:58:02 PM PST by Fishtalk
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To: 03A3

These people believed they saved the world or something, and do not really care if they committed political suicide.


22 posted on 12/21/2009 4:00:41 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: TennesseeGirl

Even worse, they have political consultants who feed their delusions.


23 posted on 12/21/2009 4:01:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: freespirited

How many millions do they have to spend on ads full of lies to accomplish this?


24 posted on 12/21/2009 4:02:35 PM PST by jersey117
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To: freespirited

man are they in for a shock


25 posted on 12/21/2009 4:03:23 PM PST by The Wizard (I support Madame President, the only President in America today)
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To: combat_boots
Sure.
But then they can't corrupt Rasmussen, the Gold Standard of polls in this country.
26 posted on 12/21/2009 4:04:43 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: freespirited
Let's see........Pay for health insurance for needs now and thru 2013, plus concurrently pay the new healthcare tax for three years before getting any benefit.

Yeah, sure! They'll get a real bounce out'a that.

Just quarantine Washington DC, because there is some sort of disease transmissible there which causes dilusional thought patterns. Feed em all Kool-Aid as the cure.

27 posted on 12/21/2009 4:06:51 PM PST by blackdog
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To: jersey117
CNN has already been parading out families of dead loved ones claiming Obozo care would have saved them, along with a bunch of others. Already ads are being aired which play feel good music along with emotionally rescued women because their healthcare nightmare is now going to be over!

That means they churned this crap out to air a good month ago, before there even was a bill to base the ads or CNN fluffy news pieces on!

28 posted on 12/21/2009 4:14:21 PM PST by blackdog
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To: freespirited

He also said that he talked to Elvis this weekend


29 posted on 12/21/2009 4:15:18 PM PST by italianquaker (odumbo is getting all wee wee d up)
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To: TennesseeGirl
These people are totally delusional.

Unless a media bail out is hidden in the bill. The media would simply ask: "What do you want those numbers to be?"

30 posted on 12/21/2009 4:18:45 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: VanDeKoik

I just saw one on tv say the reason we hate it is we have not been “educated” enough yet. I kid you not. They are Lunatics.


31 posted on 12/21/2009 4:19:39 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: freespirited

They are totally insane.


32 posted on 12/21/2009 4:20:07 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Take back the GOP-RNC. Apply RINO-B-GONE as needed.)
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To: freespirited

He hasn’t seen it himself!

Can we start shooting now or wait till the final vote?


33 posted on 12/21/2009 4:20:11 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: blackdog

No problem. Nobody watches CNN. It is as bad as NPR.


34 posted on 12/21/2009 4:22:35 PM PST by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: freespirited

Other than higher taxes and insurance premiums no one will get anything until 2014. How is that supposed to cause a bump in poll numbers for the corrupt commies?


35 posted on 12/21/2009 4:23:00 PM PST by dforest (Who is the real Jim Thompson? I am.)
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To: freespirited
But an official predicted to me the other day that Obama's numbers would hit 60 after the health care bill passes...

And they will hit 20 (hard core commies) and he will be cursed like no other president in American history once people try to get care under this "plan."

And they will hit 0 when *everybody* (including the commies) sees what they're really paying to get this travesty.

36 posted on 12/21/2009 4:24:08 PM PST by Felis_irritable (Fool me once, I'll punch you in the...er, something or other...)
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To: SmokingJoe
0bozo’s numbers will hit 60 after the abominable health care bill passes alright..60% DISapproval.

He's already at 53% disapproval (hitting 55 once a few days back) according to Rasmussen, so that is not unlikely. I'd like to see how they spin it when he hits 70% disapproval.

37 posted on 12/21/2009 4:27:19 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: freespirited

Yeah Ben you’re so smart. Those 20-25% of Medicare Advantage patients are really gone to give 0bama high approval ratings after their insurance is gutted. So will the 20-30 somethings that have to pay a lot more for crummy coverage.
When people find out that they could go jail or pay a penalty, they are going to get those tingly feelings up their leg again (could be the real thing in jail).
Taxes are going up and all the private sector and especially small businesses can say is great!
0 is so great and all people care about is the leader and his win. We live for him now and that’s all that matters.
Yes a bill only a masochist could love. Ben, pass the cat-o-nine tails please!


38 posted on 12/21/2009 4:33:20 PM PST by grumpygresh
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To: freespirited

I absolutely could not agree more that Obama will hit 60, as in 60% Strongly Disapprove in the daily Rasmussen tracker. He just 3 points today to 43% strongly disapprove, and I predict 50% strongly disapprove by Christmas.

I also predict that Obama couldn’t give two shits what the people of this country think about anything.


39 posted on 12/21/2009 4:44:25 PM PST by johncocktoasten (Practicing asymetrical thread warfare against anti-Palin Trolls)
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To: RedEyeJack

I very seriously doubt that a finished bill is available for anyone to read.

But in the age of the Internet, they are not going to be able to keep it hidden forever. Eventually, it will be published in full and at that time, thousands of people are going to be going through it line by line, word by word, letter by letter.

Think Rathergate. This is going to be a thousand times worse. Every day the Internet is going to be alive with exposes of horrific pork-filled timebombs that have been snuck into this monster by the fatcats and their friends.

The Pajamahadeen will find them all and make sure that everyone knows about them. Senators and Congressmen are going to be ducking calls and hunkering down underneath their desks because there is no way they are going to be able to defend themselves.


40 posted on 12/21/2009 4:45:24 PM PST by Ronin
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To: freespirited

Yeah it’s so good that you had to put it together behind closed doors, buy off needed votes and pass it in the dead of night.


41 posted on 12/21/2009 4:51:43 PM PST by maxter (Give today a chance. Enjoy.)
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To: freespirited

What are they smoking? The only bounce the Dems are going to get from Obamcare is being ridden out of town on a rail in front of an angry mob.


42 posted on 12/21/2009 4:51:53 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: Ronin

Sounds like a plan.


43 posted on 12/21/2009 4:53:58 PM PST by jersey117
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To: freespirited


They have lost their minds if they think obama going to get a bounce.... unless they cheat the results of every poll.


44 posted on 12/21/2009 5:00:55 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/user/GloriaJane)
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To: freespirited

yeah just like how everyone would looove the stimulus and unemployment would be 0%


45 posted on 12/21/2009 5:22:28 PM PST by ari-freedom (Global warming is the biggest scientific hoax since the Piltdown man.)
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To: freespirited

I look for it more to hit the mid 30’s for Obama and single digits for Congress.America does not want this bill but they are doing it anyway.


46 posted on 12/21/2009 5:36:27 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: freespirited
They’re not only evil they're stupid too!
47 posted on 12/21/2009 5:41:35 PM PST by kempo
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To: freespirited


Dems anticipate a health care bounce [in O’s approval rating]

Sounds like The Dems needs a psych workup.
And a neurological one (to detect/analyze dementia) would also
be indicated.


48 posted on 12/21/2009 5:56:32 PM PST by VOA (I)
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To: TennesseeGirl

They’re totally dishonest. But then, crooks always are.


49 posted on 12/21/2009 5:58:02 PM PST by XenaLee
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To: combat_boots

My two cents: ruin the Christmas of every RAT who voted for the House or Senate bills. Raise Hell if they have the nerve to come home. They ruined our Christmas; let’s return the favor.


50 posted on 12/21/2009 6:01:08 PM PST by mwl8787
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