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Yahoo is spying on you
WND ^ | 12/21/09 | Michael Carl

Posted on 12/21/2009 9:07:14 PM PST by hope

Yahoo.com is allegedly spying on its customers and acting as a proxy for U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies.

According to Wired.com, Yahoo also charges the agencies for the information. That means U.S. citizens' tax dollars are being used by federal agencies to pay for information gathered in Yahoo's spying.

A Yahoo customer who asked not to be identified became suspicious of Yahoo's operations when the image below appeared on his screen while downloading his e-mail.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: internet; yahoo
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1 posted on 12/21/2009 9:07:14 PM PST by hope
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To: hope

I believe that Google also has the same policies as Yahoo.


2 posted on 12/21/2009 9:08:49 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: hope

This is news? Most Internet savvy folks have known this for years. Old news.


3 posted on 12/21/2009 9:11:16 PM PST by doc1019 (Rebellion is only a short time away.)
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To: doc1019

I agree


4 posted on 12/21/2009 9:12:21 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Yahoo mail and Google mail are the addresses I use when a website demands an email address and I know it will be given to spammers. I hope the goobermit enjoys reading my spam.


5 posted on 12/21/2009 9:14:14 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: hope

WND is a joke.


6 posted on 12/21/2009 9:14:14 PM PST by Silly ("Okay, I'm getting just a little sick of this bereaved chicken-widow crap!")
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To: hope

There is also the question of how long emails and other transmissions over Yahoo or similar services is retained. I actually stuck with Yahoo rather than considering gmail because I read a couple of years back that Yahoo purges old communications after a few years, but Google retains it indefinitely, including search history.

Don’t know if that is still correct.


7 posted on 12/21/2009 9:16:13 PM PST by Will88
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To: hope

Just Yahoo and Google? I wonder about Facebook. Any time my brother and I start bitching about Obummer, we get mysteriously cut off...or am I just paranoid.


8 posted on 12/21/2009 9:17:02 PM PST by swatbuznik
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To: Will88

scroogle scraper protects you from google.


9 posted on 12/21/2009 9:17:29 PM PST by omega4179 (Wanting things is not the same as knowing things.)
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To: swatbuznik

No doubt Facebook is monitored.


10 posted on 12/21/2009 9:19:20 PM PST by GOPsterinMA ("Henceforth, you shall be known as...'Nobel Obama'".)
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To: hope

Almost every email you send from any web service, or from an application on your computer (outlook, eudora, agent, etc.) includes the originating IP in the header.


11 posted on 12/21/2009 9:20:45 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: hope

I have used Excite.com as my home page for years … never had a problem. Of course that is only my portal to the Internet, I avoid Google and Yahoo as much as possible.


12 posted on 12/21/2009 9:23:17 PM PST by doc1019 (Rebellion is only a short time away.)
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To: omega4179
scroogle scraper protects you from google.

Thanks, I'm checking that out.

13 posted on 12/21/2009 9:26:39 PM PST by Will88
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To: hope

Doesn’t matter. Anyone who believes anything you do on your computer is even remotely private is a fool.


14 posted on 12/21/2009 9:27:21 PM PST by Melas
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To: sonofstrangelove

idunno, but slew of “googlesyndication” urls flashed by when I clicked on the WND link.


16 posted on 12/21/2009 9:37:17 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (free enterprise (the first word is a verb))
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To: sonofstrangelove

I believe that Google also has the same policies as Yahoo.
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Yahoo is the lesser of two evils.


17 posted on 12/21/2009 9:40:03 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

I agree with that statement


18 posted on 12/21/2009 9:41:12 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one."Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: hope

Yahoo and Google are not allowed on my computers PERIOD! I avoid them, I check my registry weekly to make sure nothing is there. I use their email once in a while as a temporary email. Always hide my IP and use a fake name.


19 posted on 12/21/2009 10:01:12 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: hope
Geeez -- really?


20 posted on 12/21/2009 10:01:53 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! )
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To: spodefly

Not true. You can pay for encrypted email service. I would never use Outlook.


21 posted on 12/21/2009 10:02:45 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Melas

Ya got that right..and ALL internet providers have yours and the person you are mailing to isp numbers. It is in the hidden header of every single internet provider email. Just look in your email program for long or full header..and low and behold..there it is. It shows your isp and that of every computer your email went thru to get to the person you sent it to..and includes theirs..and on your incoming mail, its the opposite way around..theirs first yours last...and they ALL will work with law enforcment when called upon.


22 posted on 12/21/2009 10:05:44 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: Baynative

Only a fool using the internet will think nobody can see their information. The net is an opened book. No matter where you use email..including your internet provider..will see your isp...just like they claim yahoo mail does. It was always this way and will always be this way.

Every forum you use allows the moderators to see your isp.

Any site you land on..can show info on you. Many times, there is a little obscure icon..on webpages, that allows the webmaster of that site..or the owner of a forum, not only able to see your isp..but how you got to their site (if you clicked on a link or if you had it bookmarked), they also can see what operating system you are using, what version and where in the world you live. Anyone can can put this info gathering gismo on their website..and its free.

You are NOT anonymous on the internet..far from it.


23 posted on 12/21/2009 10:10:30 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: mojitojoe
Yahoo and Google are not allowed on my computers PERIOD! I avoid them, I check my registry weekly to make sure nothing is there.

Look again; just about every page you view is tracked, as is this one. Here's the link from the bottom of this and all FR pages:

And every site you visit gives the info of your system:

Hey - they're from the government and they just want to help!

24 posted on 12/21/2009 10:11:09 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! )
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To: mojitojoe

Your arent hiding..you only think you are.


25 posted on 12/21/2009 10:11:49 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: brityank

You see that little sign the guy is holding with the info? I have a personal forum and I see that info and more..using a tracker. And its everywhere..almost any site you land on..has some sort of info tracker. So..people who are avoiding yahoo or google because they think they are the only ones who can see them..think again. You dont want to be seen? Turn off the computer and watch tv. Last I heard, those people in the box, cant see you.


26 posted on 12/21/2009 10:16:38 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: New Yawk Minute

Yep, in the old days...we were’nt hiding we were just speaking out in great numbers...These days, who gives a shit about numbers?


27 posted on 12/21/2009 10:19:33 PM PST by hope (authenic article...)
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To: New Yawk Minute

Nobody can hide completely but I can assure you that you can make it very hard. My computer tech does all of Dell’s work. He is the most knowledgable computer guy I’ve ever known. He comes once a month to check and clean my computers. There in no Google, Yahoo, Real Player, Quick Time, MSN, etc on any of my computers.
I always go through a proxy and use an encrypted email service.


28 posted on 12/21/2009 10:43:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: brityank

First, that is not my IP. I just checked whatismyip.com so your info is wrong. Second, an IP means nothing if it is shared with thousands of others. Each time I log off and turn off my modem, my IP changes.


29 posted on 12/21/2009 10:47:40 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: swatbuznik

It’s probably because your ALWAYS complaining about him, so naturally when you get cut off, you are. ;)


30 posted on 12/21/2009 10:47:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: New Yawk Minute

Hush mail. Encrypted. When they get the email, they have to go to Hushmail to open it and use the password you gave them.


31 posted on 12/21/2009 10:49:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Why? What ya hiding?

I personally dont care who sees what. If I did..a forum would be the last place I would come to. You are giving out your very thoughts on some serious topics.


32 posted on 12/21/2009 10:49:46 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: mojitojoe

I dont care who sees my emails. I have nothing in them to hide. If I did..I sure wouldnt be sending it thru a computer.


33 posted on 12/21/2009 10:50:54 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: New Yawk Minute

That little guy holding the sign doesn’t mean sh*t if it says you are in Canada and you are sitting in Texas, Florida, etc. Who cares if they know you have XP and are using IE or FF. You and about a million others.
Where am I located, check my IP now and tell me. Guarantee you will be wrong.


34 posted on 12/21/2009 10:52:28 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: New Yawk Minute

I don’t like snoops. If I had something to HIDE I sure as hell wouldn’t use email or a cell phone.


35 posted on 12/21/2009 10:53:43 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

That’s not the barrier you think it is. Whatever your IP address is, your provider must know it or you wouldn’t be able to connect to the net. Whatever your IP address is right now will be attached to all over your traffic and your provider will be able to tie it to your physical location should the police have a warrant. There is no anonymity on the internet, not really. That or you have your own satellite uplink and you’re hacking into the internet backbone.


36 posted on 12/21/2009 10:54:01 PM PST by Melas
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To: New Yawk Minute

I’m not hiding anything newbie. Let them snoop all over your computer, I’ll do everything I can to shut them out. Get lost


37 posted on 12/21/2009 10:54:59 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Read what I said. I said I could do that on MY own personal forum..not here. However, I am sure whomever owns this forum can see it.

You only think you are hidden..with encryptions and cloaking etc. If someone wanted to find you..they will.


38 posted on 12/21/2009 10:55:16 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: mojitojoe

Amazing..you cant get anywhere with your argument..so you stoop to name calling.

You arent safe..you can be found..no matter what you are using, and I dont have to call you names to make my point.


39 posted on 12/21/2009 10:56:30 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: New Yawk Minute

Every forum you use allows the moderators to see your isp.
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Funny my IP shows I am in Texas right now and I can assure you I’m not. Try again moron.


40 posted on 12/21/2009 10:56:54 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Still with the name calling?

I dont care what it says..your isp can still be traced. Make a few threats about a public figure and see how fast you are found.


41 posted on 12/21/2009 10:58:17 PM PST by New Yawk Minute
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To: sonofstrangelove

It’s free. If you want privacy, you should not be using it.

I learned back in the 90’s to treat every single thing I write down as though it will fall into the hands of the one person in the world that is motivated to do me, personally, the most damage.

If I were to do anything “bad” using the internet, I would use a special computer that was ONLY used from free wi-fi-sites, use multiple sites, use the computer for nothing else, and use email addresses completely unaffiliated with any of my “legitimate” business.

And even then I would probably not be anal enough. I would probably need to wear a fake beard and sunglasses and maybe an oversized shirt with a pillow in it to thwart surveillance cameras in Starbucks, etc.

In this world, you can NOT be too careful.

‘Course, I think it would be a waste anyway. If you are working with another person to do something dastardly, you are probably already caught anyway, and just don’t know it.

Did you just see someone move in that van across the street? ;)


42 posted on 12/21/2009 10:58:29 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GOPsterinMA

>>No doubt Facebook is monitored.<<

I have literally no doubt it is ALL monitored. It is too easy. They would be incompetent to not monitor it. All of it. And probably 98% of the work is automated.


43 posted on 12/21/2009 10:59:49 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: mojitojoe

Hushmail cooperates with law enforcement and logs IP addresses in order to analyze market trends, gather broad demographic information Ie, it ain’t private.


44 posted on 12/21/2009 11:00:23 PM PST by Melas
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To: FlyingEagle

I am certain that Google sells their email addresses to the worst types of spammers. A couple of years ago I got a Google email account, but I never posted the info to a web site, gave it to anyone else, or sent an email from it. Despite this, I got roughly 50 pieces of spam email a day, including the standard Viagra, Rolex lookalike watches, Nigerian prince scams, refinance your home, etc. There’s no way anyone could have gotten this email address except from Google.


45 posted on 12/21/2009 11:02:08 PM PST by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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To: hope

I appreciate that Yahoo puts the originating IP address in the emails.

I’ve saved a lot of time, by not talking to people after doing a WHOIS on IP addresses only to learn that the email came from Africa.


46 posted on 12/21/2009 11:02:12 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Melas

What don’t you people get about never using your IP. My IP changes and is shared with thousands. I give up. Do a little research on static IP’s and proxies, Then we can chat.


47 posted on 12/21/2009 11:02:31 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: New Yawk Minute

Never argue with an idiot; he’ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience. :^)


48 posted on 12/21/2009 11:03:31 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! )
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To: New Yawk Minute

I don’t make threats n00b, so I don’t have to worry about that. No, it CANNOT be traced you are just an ill informed typical NY yank.


49 posted on 12/21/2009 11:04:15 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: New Yawk Minute

I’ll be more than glad to go to the forum you say you have. Then you can try to find me.


50 posted on 12/21/2009 11:05:05 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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