Skip to comments.Sorry, Vegans: Brussels Sprouts Like to Live, Too
Posted on 12/22/2009 1:39:23 AM PST by neverdem
I stopped eating pork about eight years ago, after a scientist happened to mention that the animal whose teeth most closely resemble our own is the pig. Unable to shake the image of a perky little pig flashing me a brilliant George Clooney smile, I decided it was easier to forgo the Christmas ham. A couple of years later, I gave up on all mammalian meat, period. I still eat fish and poultry, however and pour eggnog in my coffee. My dietary decisions are arbitrary and inconsistent, and when friends ask why Im willing to try the duck but not the lamb, I dont have a good answer. Food choices are often like that: difficult to articulate yet strongly held. And lately, debates over food choices have flared with particular vehemence.
In his new book, Eating Animals, the novelist Jonathan Safran Foer describes his gradual transformation from omnivorous, oblivious slacker who waffled among any number of diets to committed vegetarian. Last month, Gary Steiner, a philosopher at Bucknell University, argued on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times that people should strive to be strict ethical vegans like himself, avoiding all products derived from animals, including wool and silk. Killing animals for human food and finery is nothing less than outright murder, he said, Isaac Bashevis Singers eternal Treblinka.
But before we cede the entire moral penthouse to committed vegetarians and strong ethical vegans,...
Even if you have quite a bit of knowledge about plants, Dr. De Moraes said, its still surprising to see how sophisticated they can be.
Its a small daily tragedy that we animals must kill to stay alive. Plants are the ethical autotrophs here, the ones that wrest their meals from the sun. Dont expect them to boast: theyre too busy fighting to survive.
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My nephew is dating a vegan. She is doing this thinking she will stay slim. Unfortunately, her ethics doesn’t extend to chocolate chip cookies.
I agree with you about the ‘ethical autotrophs’. They take silliness to celestial levels!
At least this one admits she's a deluded kook. That sets her apart from most.
Just don’t tell her that there’s eggs in the cookies. :D
Sheep and silk worms don’t have to die to provide their raw material; what’s so moral about not using wool or silk? Absurd!
Read the article. It is most fascinating how plants attract dragonflys; etc., to deal with meddlesome insects feasting on them.
Allowing a steer to graze on it and then killing the steer for slaughter results in far fewer animal deaths.
IIRC, silk worms are steamed inside their cocoons, after which the silk can be unwound.
It takes a lot of chickens to equal the meat in a steer. She could save more lives by eating beef. Maybe she should consider eating whale.
The only answer for these types really appears to be suicide. They’d stop consuming even plants, which apparently this person regrets. They’d begin *feeding* other lifeforms as well. Actually there’s endless parasites and symbiotes eating on all humans all the time, so she’s on the plate as well currently and down the road.
Tell that to the Venus Fly Trap. Damn murderers!
I knew I shouldn’t have assumed! Too lazy to do research. Thank you for the correction and blechhh, what a way to go. The vegans, etc., may be as indignant as they want about the worms. Uh oh, I just looked. Horrors, silkworm moths can no longer fly because of our dastardly intervention! Who knew? They are doomed to a hot, bubbly death instead of bulb-burn syndrome or ingestion by some other creature. Ahh, such is life.
how can you eat a plant? It’s so cruel. Plants can’t even move away from you when you try to eat it.
Plants are the ethical autotrophs here, the ones that wrest their meals from the sun.
She needs a bowl of Caster Bean soup. One spoonfull nd she would be joining Sadam. However all plants wrest they food from the earth and process it with the help of the sun.
It is bizarre that vegans avoid wool. Nobody kills sheep to get wool fibers to wear.
Instead they urge the use of petroleum based fibers or plant materials that must either be raised with a lot of pesticides or undergo considerable chemical processing to become useful as fiber.
Liberal vegans are clods. I always tell them they’re insensitive and dense because they can’t hear a carrot cry when pulled from the ground. And eating an alfalfa sprout sandwich is like listening to a plant version of the Gettysburg battle. They scream all the way down through your gullet.
“Tomatoes feel pain, too!”
I’m still waiting for my veggies and flowers to defend themselves against deer and bunnies. Pacifists.
Actually, silk worms do die in the process...
You don’t have to worry about me. I would never eat a Brussels sprout even at gunpoint.
Back 60 years ago when my father was teaching me to slaughter and butcher the hogs , he showed me many thing and told me of how the hog was made to be butchered.
The Achilles tendon is there to hang the hog, when you gut the animal if you do it right the whole mass falls into the tub, the intestines are cleaned to hold the sausage links, the hair is used for soap, Nothing is wasted on the hog but the last squeal/
As I sit here this morning enjoying me sausage and eggs I feel sorry for these Vegans who put aside the tasty hams, sausage, the bacon, and go out an buy a processed soy burger.
Well I dont feel so sorry for them that I dont laugh at them.
Like everyone else on this forum, I don't care if a person is a vegetarian or not. But it seems veggie elites are not above lying to to achieve their agenda. Some years ago a stepson of one of my friends argued with me that man has only been eating meat for about ten thousand years and only due to a massive world-wide food scarcity. I tried to set him straight, but I don't know if it registered. Then I knew that the veggie leaders were telling all sorts of tales to gain adherents.
Just remember, the chicken is involved, but the pig is committed.
I started the Vegetable Liberation Organization (VLO) years ago but it never really caught on.
“Like everyone else on this forum, I don’t care if a person is a vegetarian or not.”
It’s the “religious” vegetarians you want to tie up and throw in a ditch. I have a close friend who is a vegetarian and I hardly know it because he isn’t “religious” about it (i.e. he doesn’t expect the rest of the world to organize around his food choices).
Plowing an acre of land for a vegetable garden kills and destroys the habitat of millions and millions of insects and worms and other small animals.Vegetarianism is murder!
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All life feeds on other life.
Even plants need nutrients that come from the decay of other things.
Mother nature is ruthless.
“Sheep and silk worms dont have to die to provide their raw material; whats so moral about not using wool or silk? Absurd!”
it’s the exploitation, what’s the matter with you!?!
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Years ago I read about radical fruitarians. They live on fruit and nuts and won't pick until it's falling off the tree. They permit grass mowing, but only after the grass has had a chance to reproduce (go to seed).
That is their argument. They consider honey a product of slavery!
I'm a life long vegetarian, not a vegan, but I am aware of the silent scream of the brussels sprout, so to speak. We all take life to survive.
My philosophy is, choose the point on the food chain you think is best, and respect the choice of others.
I far prefer the attitude of hunters, who typically respect the lives they take, over self-important veggie cranks like PETA ( people for the unethical treatment of humans).