Posted on 12/22/2009 11:07:45 AM PST by ml/nj
Five (and a half) easy questions. Maybe it's a vanity, but Rush is playing soundbites of someone who fancies himself as a representative of the people speaking of healthcare as a right. So here goes ...
If Healthcare is a Right, does this mean that the Government can FORCE a doctor to treat me?
If Healthcare is a Right, does this mean that NO ONE can decide not to treat me because there is little hope for a useful recovery?
If Healthcare is a Right and there aren't enough doctors, does this mean the Government can force young adults to study medicine?
If Healthcare is a Right, will a Pediatrician be allowed to take a vacation so long as there is one sick child?
If Healthcare is a Right, why do I have to pay anything at all for it? (What other "rights" do we have to pay for?)
ML/NJ
If Health care is a right then the Government must do everything in it’s power to make sure I live forever right?
Way to logical for a liberal mind to grasp.
ML/NJ
if health care is a right, then is it a violation of federal civil rights law if minorities aren’t treated first, or in proportion to their representation in the population?
a big part of hillarycare involved the central government deciding who studied medicine, and which specialties, & etc.
Health Care is NOT a right...
There is a part of the House Bill that called for doctors to report on Race Norming of cures. i.e. if four White people are cured by a treatment there had better be four Black people cured as well. If one of them dies. you are in trouble.
But the People's Representative said it is.
ML/NJ
The real question - and the one I hope at least one member of the SC asks when this legislation is challenged constitutionally - is:
if federal law can mandate an individual to purchase healthcare from a for-profit company, and mandate the price and features of the product sold by that company, then is there ANYTHING at all that is outside the scope of federal power?
Health Care is not a right because rights do not impose burdens on others to accomplish them. Rights are the limits of what others can do to you, not what they must do for you.
We have a right to keep and bear arms...
but I don’t see the federal government forcing everybody to buy a gun.
The constitution repealed restrictions on voting and added universal direct suffrage and the right to work to rights guaranteed by the previous constitution. In addition, the Constitution recognized collective social and economic rights including the rights to work, rest and leisure, health care, care in old age and sickness, housing, education, and cultural benefits.
My question is: Are senators and representatives subject to their own plan? Of course, the answer is "no", they've exempted themselves. That's all anyone should need to know.
And that's what I tell everyone I talk to about this.
If Healthcare is a Right, does this mean that the Government can FORCE a doctor to treat me?
If Healthcare is a Right, will a Pediatrician be allowed to take a vacation so long as there is one sick child?
If Healthcare is a Right by virtue of being a contract right due to an employment contract or something, the Government, through the courts, can probably help you force compliance with the contract just as with any other contract. You'd have to sue.
If Healthcare is a Right, why do I have to pay anything at all for it? (What other "rights" do we have to pay for?)
You have the right to life, but you have to pay, either monetarily or through your own labor, for whatever it takes to keep living.
You have the right to liberty, but you have to pay, either monetarily or through your own labor, for transportation unless you are walking and then you may have to pay to cross someone else's property (And even then, the walking is your own labor).
You have the right to keep and bear arms but no one is obliged to provide you with arms. You have to pay for them either monetarily or through your own labor.
As I wrote, "Healthcare is a Right" is undefined. But you might be able to make an argument that there is a right to health care in so far as you have a right to provide healthcare to yourself (nobody can stop you from taking care of yourself)or you have a right to healthcare in so far as you can purchase healthcare if someone is willing to provide it (nobody can stop you from receiving healthcare in return for payment), but absent some contract arrangement I can't see having a right to healthcare enabling someone to force another to provide the healthcare.
Best answer I’ve seen yet.
Actually I have a right not to be prevented from keeping and bearing arms. It costs neither me nor anyone else anything.
I also have a right to try to obtain medical care, or I did. (These guys may make that illegal.) That's not quite the same a a right to obtain it, which is what the Good People's Representative was talking about.
ML/NJ ML/NJ
Some might think of health care as a “right”,(i.e., something you should not be denied access to, if you can pay for it) but in a very different way than the Democrats who consider it an entitlement that the government must provide to all citizens and illegal aliens.
I think a better approach to frame this debate is to say “Even if we assume health care is a “right”, that does not mean the taxpayers must pay for my health care.”
If health care is a “right”, certainly food and clothing are rights as well. Does that mean the government must provide food and clothing for all Americans? Does the government mandate how much food and clothing we must buy or force us to buy food or clothing insurance.
What about rights specifically granted in the Constitution?
Freedom of speech is clearly a right. Does that mean the government must provide me with a bullhorn to get my message out?
Freedom of the press is guaranteed. Am I entitled to a free printing press and TV studio and airwave access?
What about the right to keep and bear arms? Can I buy all the guns I want and tell the gun shop to send the bill to Congress? (The Liberals will LOVE this one.)
Another question is, “Assuming health care is a “right”, just how much health care does one have the right to?”
Should I be covered for any procedure, test or medication I want, whether I need it or not. What would THAT cost? If the government limits care to reduce costs, won’t it be reducing Americans’ right to get the level of health care they want?
Government run health care would actually rob people of their right to receive the health care they are willing and able to pay for.
Rights and entitlements a very different things.
As the Canadians found out, the government giving you access to health care (the right to get in line) is not the same as giving you health care.
You pretend to pay, I’ll pretend to work. But I’m always willing to give pro bono IV potassium bolus injections to trial lawyers and DIMS.
LOL !!
(And I don't even know what potassium bolus, but all my guesses tell me I don't want it.)
ML/NJ
Good example! Following up on this if we have the right to private property should the Government make sure that we all own private property?
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