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Posted on 12/22/2009 11:22:29 AM PST by bobsunshine
..Jim DeMint and John Ensign are going to force a vote on the issue. Democrats will be forced to take a position on whether or not the federal government can force individuals to buy products on pain of criminal penalty.
“I am incredibly concerned that the Democrats’ proposed individual mandate provision takes away too much freedom and choice from Americans across the country,” said Senator Ensign. “As an American, I felt the obligation to stand up for the individual freedom of every citizen to make their own decision on this issue. I don’t believe Congress has the legal authority to force this mandate on its citizens.”
“Forcing every American to purchase a product is absolutely inconsistent with our Constitution and the freedoms our Founding Fathers hoped to protect,” said Senator DeMint. “This is not at all like car insurance, you can choose not to drive but Americans will have no choice whether to buy government-approved insurance. This is nothing more than a bailout and takeover of insurance companies. We’re forcing Americans to buy insurance under penalty of law and then Washington bureaucrats will then dictate what these companies can sell to Americans. This is not liberty, it is tyranny of good intentions by elites in Washington who think they can plan our lives better than we can.”
(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...
Yes, a Civil War in the courts....
I like this guy.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaallelujah!!!
Almost everything this congress has done is unconstitutional. It’s about time someone called them out on it.
If Hunter doesn’t run, I’m going to do everything I can to get DeMint to do so.
“I like this guy”
So do I.
He just keeps getting better.
Actually, I’m all for a real civil war. I want my country back.
Lots of constitutional issues to address right up to eligibility.
Yes, Junior Mints and Jim DeMints can be very refreshing.
Jim DeMint to Force a Vote on Constitutionality of the Individual Mandate
Go Jim. This gives us hope that maybe if we can get a lot of guys in office like him we can keep America!
Hunter is a great man, but he is nowhere near as electable as DeMint, in my opinion.
By what means does he intend to ‘force’ this vote he speaks of?
If Hunter wins the nomination, trust me, he will roll right over the boy marxist. The problem is getting the starry eyed jackasses in the GOP to vote for a conservative in the primary.
Play it safe
join oathkeepers
we will defend our constutition
I wish the article would have explained how, procedurally, they are going to force that vote.
I suspect SOME dims may see this as unconstitutional.
Or at least go on record, up front, that you will not consider any future Senate to be bound by that provision.
>> “I like this guy”
Let his office know.
How does congress get to vote on whether their legislation is constitutional ?
Have a suit ready to go before SCOTUS the minute it becomes law.
I guess I need some explanation. Just because 60 people vote to say it is constitutional, how does that make it so ?
I don’t have much faith in a civil war in the courts.
I have the same question. I’m not up on parliamentary procedure and suspect the communists can merely not allow it to come up to a vote, so they would not be on the record of where they actually stand.
Move along people, nothing to see here.
I will.
One vote at a time. String it out. I don't know if they can legally NOT recess, but it doesn't seem like that would be practical even if they could.
Show us the BC!!
So happy to hear that look even one of zero’s team members says bad idea
http://www.businessinsider.com/democrats-should-say-no-to-healthcare-reform-2009-12
Without the “public option” and being able to force people into the “exchange”,
this bill is toothless and people will defy it at every turn.
The three biggies that the left (and their “father”) wants, and has wanted for decades:
Single (gov’t) payer.
No other choice for people, under threat of jail or violence.
“Free” abortion on demand.
I have to agree with you there.
FromLori, no offense, but every time it looks like a Dem opposes ObamaCare, it appears to be a head-fake to get us to relax. We can’t trust any Dem (or RINO) until this is dead.
Nonsense. The Repubs can’t force a vote on anything in this Senate.
Mega ditto’s, me too!
So the Constitution is now up to a simple majority vote in the Senate?
“Almost everything this congress has done is unconstitutional.”
And earlier Congress’, too... The pubbies pretty much abused their turn at bat, under Bush, don’t forget.
What we need is principled, conservative representation that is focused on doing what is right for the country, within the constraints of the Constitution, and isn’t drafted with an eye toward the next election cycle.
It’s time to take back the country.
Heard this on the radio. Gave me a good laugh. Notice the only part that is being questioned on Constitutional grounds is the part mandating purchase of insurance. And the Senate that passed it is going to vote on the question? Absurd. It’s like having the wolves vote on whether or not the sheep are lunch or not.
FIGHT ON!!!
Subject to a presidential veto or SCOTUS overturning. As it has always been.
There seems to be an exception written into the more obscure provisions of this proposed Senate bill, that would allow individuals to opt out on religious grounds. Christian Scientists, who believe in spiritual healing rather than traditional medicine, might be able to file for exemptions to the taxes and to the health insurance mandate. The Old Amish and Old Mennonites already have such an exemption on Medicare and Social Security.
The one thing we may count upon with this regime in power, is they won’t enforce the rules (not laws in the conventional sense) they themselves have written.
There will be NO CONSEQUENCE for infractions of their regulations. When called to account, just ignore it, or do not respond to “official” pronouncements.
But keep a plentiful supply of ammunition, and sufficient means to deliver that firepower.
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“I’m all for a real civil war”
It may be closer to happening than you realize. I can envision a scenario where someone high up in the military chain of command (perhaps General Petrais) will initiate a public refusal to obey orders as a pretext to bringing up charges against the unlegitimate CIC. There is going to be a Yeltsin type event where you see the military commanders on top of a tank telling the DC police to stand down, especially if the Obama troops start shooting tea party protesters. When it finnaly hits, I will enjoy watching Chris Mathews and Olberdork being sent to the guilatine.
I don’t wanna a civil war, I wanna Second American Revolution. Everything’s falling nicely into place. The Sleeping Giant has been awakened. Get the popcorn. This is going to be so delicious. Health care reform may be, as some of its supporters have said, the greatest Christmas Gift America’s ever had. We are about to get the change our young president has promised.
Yes, we need our country back, but it will take a gargantuan effort to "reset" this country, and a civil war may be the only mechanism to effect this. Half measures will not do.
The leftist haters of America must go. And they will have to be made to go by force.
>Get the popcorn.
No, not popcorn. Get your gun, ammunition, food, fuel for your vehicles... start planning and preparing as if for an extended military campaign.
Get your militia together and drill... remember, that’s what Lexington was [partially] about. (It was also partially about the British wanting to ‘inspect’ the stockpiled arms.)
This vote will never happen.
Reid will change the rules again.
You think Hunter will run????
““Forcing every American to purchase a product is absolutely inconsistent with our Constitution and the freedoms our Founding Fathers hoped to protect,” said Senator DeMint.”
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Someone gets it.
I agree completely. As much as I do not want a war in this country, I'm afraid there is no other way to perform a hard reset of the bureaucratic machine that has become entrenched in DC.
I just don't see any way to vote our way out of this, even if it IS what a majority of the population wants. As we are seeing now, the ruling plutocracy has no compunction about shredding the Constitution in broad daylight, and they simply will NOT give up power peacefully.
Understood,(both parties are guilty) but it has reached a whole new level. It’s as if the Constitution doesn’t even exist.
next time we need to add a provision stating that ANYONE who ignores the constitution will be shot. Maybe then they honor their promise to uphold it.
Good intentions? I cant buy that.
They should force all kinds of votes on all kinds of stupid things.
At least SOMEONE is fighting this. :(
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