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Merry Christmas: GOP gives in on timing of health care vote
McClatchy Newspapers ^ | December 22, 2009 | David Lightman and Margaret Talev

Posted on 12/22/2009 4:09:15 PM PST by mdittmar

WASHINGTON — It may be the only bipartisan agreement that Congress reaches this year on overhauling health care.

Republicans, under pressure not to wreck Christmas for lawmakers and their staffs, agreed Tuesday that Senate passage of the Democrats' controversial bill seemed inevitable and scaled back procedural-delay mechanisms to allow a vote by the morning of Christmas Eve.

Had the full debate continued, the Senate would have voted at around 9 p.m. Thursday, too late for many lawmakers and their staff members to get home in time for the holiday. Instead, the vote is set for 8 a.m.

President Barack Obama had announced that he'd delay his own departure for his family vacation in Hawaii until the vote was over.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., had said that he'd been willing to stay late into Christmas Eve because, "It's important that we take the time to analyze it in every way that we can before the final votes are taken in the Senate."

However, Democrats as well as Republicans expressed concern about missing Christmas — since many live in places where planes can't get them home in time — and others were concerned about an ice storm that's threatening the Midwest.

McConnell also said, "The final vote in the Senate is not the final vote. There are substantial differences between the House and Senate bills. This debate is not over."

If the Senate's version passes as expected, it will be considered by a House of Representatives-Senate conference, or negotiating, committee, which typically operates largely in secrecy.

"The American people are still going to have another month or so, I would guess, to weigh in and express their concerns about this package to each of their representatives," McConnell said.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcclatchydc.com ...


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1 posted on 12/22/2009 4:09:18 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
It's all but a done deal then.

The clowns are really in charge of the circus now.

2 posted on 12/22/2009 4:12:01 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: mdittmar
too late for many lawmakers and their staff members to get home in time for the holiday.

Another slap in the face of real, hardworking Americans who have worked holidays all their lives.

Another example of how it's all about them. But they'll hide behind the excuse that their staffers are the real reason they're doing it.

3 posted on 12/22/2009 4:12:24 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: mdittmar

Thanks GOP pigs. I suppose their personal interests are more important than the peoples.


4 posted on 12/22/2009 4:12:37 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: mdittmar

Not only do the Democrats need to be purged but all these spineless Republicans do as well.

Where are all the “men”?


5 posted on 12/22/2009 4:12:47 PM PST by diamond6 (Expose Planned Parenthood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYaTywSDmls)
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To: mdittmar

Dirtbag commies don’t deserve a Merry Christmas. They hate Christianity anyway.


6 posted on 12/22/2009 4:13:03 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Join the TEA Party Rebellion!! May God and TEA save the Republic!!)
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To: mdittmar

As much as I hate saying this, this is a sensible change and one that probably avoids the type of claim that the GOP is worse than Scrooge.


7 posted on 12/22/2009 4:14:00 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: mdittmar

Go home right now. No need to be there.


8 posted on 12/22/2009 4:14:25 PM PST by listenhillary (I believe AGW is real now. It was caused by scientists and greenies LYING!)
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To: freekitty

The RINOs can’t help themselves. They’re all two-faced weasels and they know we know it. “Bi-partisan is just another word for coward”.


9 posted on 12/22/2009 4:16:36 PM PST by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: mdittmar; Grunthor; Man50D; sickoflibs; mkjessup; stephenjohnbanker
Republicans, under pressure not to wreck Christmas for lawmakers and their staffs, agreed Tuesday that Senate passage of the Democrats' controversial bill seemed inevitable and scaled back procedural-delay mechanisms to allow a vote by the morning of Christmas Eve.

Wrecking Christmas for themselves, eh?

Washington had more fortitude than about 90 percent of the RINO Party, crossing the Delaware on Christmas Day, 1776 to attack the Hessian mercenaries at Trenton the next morning!


10 posted on 12/22/2009 4:16:56 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: mdittmar

Well the constituents of these Republican and democrat elected can take a flying leap into hades while the Repulicans cave so their Christmas won’t be ruined by working on that day. We have a few million Americans out of work, who would have probably enjoyed working on Christmas. But the elected royals must not have THEIR Christmas ruined by fleshing out an unhealthy bill that 69% of Americans are against and do NOT want.


11 posted on 12/22/2009 4:17:57 PM PST by tillacum
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To: mdittmar

I’m fed up with all of these people.


12 posted on 12/22/2009 4:18:04 PM PST by donhunt (No one wants to see GM’s new convertible, the Pelosi, with its top down!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Why didn’t they force the Senate to delay the vote until after Christmas? Everyone go home now, and we’ll take it up after the holiday ??????? GOP senators have no balls.


13 posted on 12/22/2009 4:19:04 PM PST by Sunbunny
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To: mdittmar

“McConnell also said, “The final vote in the Senate is not the final vote. There are substantial differences between the House and Senate bills. This debate is not over.”

No, but it is all over for YOU, you f’ing COWARD!!!!


14 posted on 12/22/2009 4:19:25 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: mdittmar

I can see both points...it’s is inevitable, and it’s not all that fair to those Congressional staffers who don’t have a say. Personally, I think I would have sent my staff home, told my family we’re having a white Christmas in the nation’s capitol, and made myself comfortable in the Senate chamber with some egg nog.


15 posted on 12/22/2009 4:22:46 PM PST by americanophile (Merry Christmas!)
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To: rabscuttle385

These cretins won’t even empty their own trash.


16 posted on 12/22/2009 4:22:54 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Jim Robinson

God Help Us Jim because there is no one else to defend us...


17 posted on 12/22/2009 4:23:28 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Raycpa
As much as I hate saying this, this is a sensible change and one that probably avoids the type of claim that the GOP is worse than Scrooge.

You are correct. The republicans should just leave at noon tomorrow and tell Reid it is your tar baby, deal with it. There is nothing the republicans can do to stop this so let it be a truly one sided bill.

Can't believe the people that are saying the republicans are all rinos, cowards, etc...people they don't even have spit balls to throw.

18 posted on 12/22/2009 4:23:56 PM PST by engrpat (A village in Kenya is missing their idiot...lets send him back)
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To: buccaneer81

Well shoot, most of their staff drive to work..so what’s the big deal of them having to work on Christmas. Nurses, Drs, maintenance workers, aircraft crews, military personnel work on Christmas, so what’s the big deal of our elected royals missing Christmas? They can celebrate it early or late like a lot of Americans do. Are the military in Afphaganistan not on duty Christmas day, the military in the Phillipines, Iraq and wherever they’re stationed? BUT the elected royals MUST have that day off. PHFFFT!


19 posted on 12/22/2009 4:24:09 PM PST by tillacum
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To: mdittmar

Pet poodles. Anyone harboring confidence that putting a dozen or so new Republicans in Congress is going to reverse the growth in government is delusional.


20 posted on 12/22/2009 4:24:17 PM PST by qwertypie
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To: rabscuttle385

Beat me to it.

Where are the patriots who will defend America from destruction? Washington’s troops didn’t get a Christmas break but, despite being shoeless and in some cases without even a pair of britches to cover their arses, stuck it out at Valley Forge in the freezing cold.

I spit on on the dems, but I loogie on the RINOs.


21 posted on 12/22/2009 4:24:17 PM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: Raycpa
GOP is worse than Scrooge

Very good point
We need not stoop to that level

22 posted on 12/22/2009 4:24:24 PM PST by Ganndy (Merry Christmas you freaky little kenyan.)
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To: Raycpa
As much as I hate saying this, this is a sensible change and one that probably avoids the type of claim that the GOP is worse than Scrooge.

Nonsense. It's the Demonrats insisting that this be done right now. The GOP would be happy to just adjourn now.

23 posted on 12/22/2009 4:25:02 PM PST by Sloth (Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8)
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To: mdittmar

Turn on c-span.

They haven’t given up at all.

Senator Ensign has the floor and he’s just called the entire bill UNCONSTITUTIONAL AND NOW HE’S ARTICULATING THE REASONS.


24 posted on 12/22/2009 4:25:31 PM PST by onyx
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To: mdittmar

I hate being preached to by Rush, Levin, Hannity and the like about how there IS a significant difference between Democrats and Republicans, when they do stuff like this they prove there is NOT.

Most major talk radio host are gone tomorrow, and the GOP is just caving in. Its all sickening.

I understand they think a 3rd party run would be a Dem victory, but COME ON! We are tired of getting raped by both sides! Vote the BUMS out! primary primary primary!


25 posted on 12/22/2009 4:25:38 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: tubebender
God Help Us Jim because there is no one else to defend us...

Other than God himself.
26 posted on 12/22/2009 4:28:04 PM PST by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: mdittmar
Republicans, under pressure not to wreck Christmas for lawmakers and their staffs, agreed Tuesday that Senate passage of the Democrats' controversial bill seemed inevitable and scaled back procedural-delay mechanisms to allow a vote by the morning of Christmas Eve.

True political conviction there. /s

27 posted on 12/22/2009 4:28:28 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Mitch McConnell has no spine. In my early career I just about worked every holiday, and my family worked with me so we could get together on a near off day and celebrate Christmas, New Year’s Day, Thanksgiving and other important holidays. The GOP caucus should fire McConnell tomorrow!!! He is useless and, he let the dumbest man in the Senate, Harry Reid roll him like the weak rag doll he is!!! GOP dump McConnell now!!!


28 posted on 12/22/2009 4:29:21 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: mdittmar

Tagged for reference because I want to be able to verify that rePugnants and demonRATs are all cut from the same degenerate cloth.


29 posted on 12/22/2009 4:29:27 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: stephenjohnbanker
I just found what they are missing.


30 posted on 12/22/2009 4:30:03 PM PST by 444Flyer (Save the SEALs!(Petty Officer 2nd Class Matthew McCabe, Petty Officer Jonathan Keefe/ Julio Heurtas))
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To: americanophile
Personally, I think I would have sent my staff home, told my family we’re having a white Christmas in the nation’s capitol, and made myself comfortable in the Senate chamber with some egg nog.

Bingo! That's exactly what they should have done.

31 posted on 12/22/2009 4:30:27 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: mdittmar

Well.

Since the Staff makes 30% more than an individual working in the private sector I say they should stay through Christmas.


32 posted on 12/22/2009 4:31:54 PM PST by carolina71
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To: mdittmar

How about if WE THE PEOPLE...occupy your vacant space till you get back? /we can pass some legislation too like...YOU ARE FIRED! Everylast one of you!


33 posted on 12/22/2009 4:33:30 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Sloth

Mrs. Smith, I understand the republicans forced your husband to stay in Washington DC so late on Christmas eve that you and your baby had to spend your very first Christmas together alone.

Yes, that is right. Those evil scrooge like republicans knew that they didn't have the votes to stop this wonderful expansion of health care to each and everyone. Their delay was just a spiteful way to get revenge; much worse than when Newt Gingrich shut down the parks. But even though we miss him, my baby and I know that my husband did the right thing by standing up to those evil right wingers.

34 posted on 12/22/2009 4:35:13 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: mdittmar

They gave away the only decent hand they had to play.


35 posted on 12/22/2009 4:35:29 PM PST by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: mdittmar
However, Democrats as well as Republicans expressed concern about missing Christmas — since many live in places where planes can't get them home in time — and others were concerned about an ice storm that's threatening the Midwest.

Too Fracking Bad!

You are smashing Fascism down our maws - I really don't care about your "Christmas!"

FUBO and CONgress!

Quite sincerely, 'Pod

36 posted on 12/22/2009 4:35:37 PM PST by sauropod (People who do things are people that get things done.)
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To: mdittmar

The OP(formerly the GOP) wing of the socialist Republicrat party caves in again! Is there any wonder why polls are trending towards the tea party movement and away from the weak kneed OP?


37 posted on 12/22/2009 4:36:18 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: RatsDawg

Republican senators should drag this out forever, if possible. This bill is an unconstitutional monstrosity, and will be an iron yoke on the neck of working Americans, American stockholders, and American companies and businesses of all sizes and organizational structures. Not to mention American taxpayers. Republican politicians, as a whole, are far too polite to those who seek to destroy America from within. Never ever quit. And for what semators are paid, in salary and bennies, working Christmas eve and Christmas day, if necessary, is not too much to ask, is it? Have you ever met a poor senator or congressional staffer? Me neither. Never ever quit. Wussies. No wonder the libs are running amuck.


38 posted on 12/22/2009 4:36:28 PM PST by Tudorfly
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To: tubebender; Jim Robinson

God is all we need to defend us...

He is the only one who can...

Merry Christmas...


39 posted on 12/22/2009 4:36:52 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: mdittmar
Yeah. I get it. We all want to get home for Christmas.


40 posted on 12/22/2009 4:36:52 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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To: listenhillary

They may as well have left after the 1 AM vote, or after Nelson was bought off. They can spew platitudes for the screwed-over voters from their home states.


41 posted on 12/22/2009 4:40:08 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: mdittmar

expressed concern about missing Christmas !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bull%^$#!


42 posted on 12/22/2009 4:41:37 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne (Merry Christmas))
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Make them vote after the Christmas Holiday. NO WAY in Hell should they be forced to vote on unfinished business.

This makes me sick, I was planning to be in DC on Christmas Eve...just to sit in the gallery.

I've worked many a Christmas Eve and Christmas Day...your flippin’ FREEDOM IS AT STAKE...! Sure you can cease fire for the holiday...just don't F***in’ surrender!

43 posted on 12/22/2009 4:42:06 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: mdittmar

No suprise here. If the RATS are anything they are strong, focused and dedicated to their cause.

The GOP is so used to being on the losing side in these things that their natural tendency is to let the dems wear them down and then they give up and make nice.


44 posted on 12/22/2009 4:43:11 PM PST by Rebel Wolf (I came into this world kicking, screaming and bloody. I have no problem going out the same way......)
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To: mdittmar

We don’t need the GOP, we’ll handle the revolution.


45 posted on 12/22/2009 4:44:10 PM PST by Indy Pendance (Gone Galt)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

When do they come back from Holiday?

A protest blocking the doors by We the People with pink slips and signs saying

YOU ARE FIRED!


46 posted on 12/22/2009 4:45:12 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: 444Flyer

Now we have TWO “cut and run” parties.


47 posted on 12/22/2009 4:45:26 PM PST by PalmettoMason (But...Obama INHERITED bad presidential poll numbers from Bush. It's BUSH'S fault!)
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To: mdittmar

Our troops are working Christmas Eve, so what’s the big deal?


48 posted on 12/22/2009 4:45:31 PM PST by arichtaxpayer (52% of our country is stupid.)
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To: rabscuttle385; paulycy

Patriots have their priorities straight ... sacrifice what ever is required in order to fight tyranny.

49 posted on 12/22/2009 4:46:11 PM PST by tx_eggman (Obama has "Czars" because men with more integrity than he has still use the titles "Don" and "Capo")
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To: freekitty

You’re right on - can’t have the scum of the earth be inconvenienced, after all, it’s all about them.

The GOP should NEVER give them an inch. Weakness is repulsive.


50 posted on 12/22/2009 4:46:27 PM PST by presently no screen name
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