Posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:15 AM PST by rabscuttle385
I never will forget meeting former North Carolina State Senator Hugh Webster my senior year of high school. He came to my school and had lunch with the seniors. As he sat down beside me, I asked him to tell me what he most loved and hated about being in Raleigh. I don't remember what he most loved, but I'll never forget what he most hated. In the words of Mr. Webster, "I don't deal well with incompetent people."
At that point, I knew Mr. Webster and I were kindred spirits. I too don't deal well with incompetent people. As a matter of fact, I go out of my way to avoid them, but when dealing with them is inevitable, I can't help but point out their incompetencies. As a law student, I am being trained to be meticulous, well-reasoned, and intelligent. After my final exam grades come back, we'll see how well I'm doing. But that aside, I feel that I have been too longsuffering in letting the Birther Movement receive simply a few caustic remarks and jabs from me. It's time for me to call a spade a spade. Here goes: If you believe that President Obama is NOT a natural-born citizen, then you are an incompetent idiot who is probably watching Glenn Beck while wearing a tin-foil hat. You probably think Obama's a Muslim too.
If you are still reading (and not firing off angry emails), then allow me to offer you factual proof that Obama is a natural-born citizen who satisfies the constitutional requirements for Commander-in-Chief. My argument is two-fold: 1. Obama was born in Hawaii (a U.S. state for my incompetent readers). 2. Obama satisfies the requirements found in the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, which defines natural-born citizens.
1. Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii joined the Union in 1959. Barack Obama was born in 1961. Do the math. It works. Ok, so perhaps that argument is a bit over-simplified, but that is because I find the birth certificate question so ridiculous. The President released his birth certificate (which was verified by the Hawaii Health Department) yet conspiracy theorists refuse to see logic. "Big bad Obama must be hiding something. That certificate isn't the long form. What's he hiding?" What the naysayers fail to realize is that in 1961 the standard Hawaiian birth certificate was...wait for it...exactly the same length as Obama's! The Hawaiian Health Department has said this, but as conspiracy theorists point out, they must be covering for Obama. Despite the facts, folks say that even if he was born in Hawaii, he is not a natural born citizen because his father was Kenyan. However, even if Obama was born on the moon, he would still be a natural born citizen under the Immigration and Nationality Act.
2. Obama is a natural born citizen. In Scales v. INS, 232 F.3d 1159 (2000), we have a clear definition of what natural born citizenship is. Scales' father was an American serviceman stationed in the Philippines where he met Scales' mother. They married despite the fact that Scales' mother was pregnant with him at the time. In all probability, the court said, Scales was a product of his mother's previous relationship. However, he was born after Mr. Scales married his mother, and he was treated as Scales' son. Later, Scales was facing deportation because of an aggravated felony involving drugs. He challenged his deportation saying he was a natural born citizen. The court determined that natural born citizenship depends on the statute in effect at the time of the child's birth. Since Scales was born in 1977, he was a natural born citizen because a "person shall be a national and citizen of the United States at birth who is born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than ten years, at least five of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years." Id. at 1169; see 8 U.S.C. §1401(a)(7) (1976). Therefore, Scales was a natural born citizen despite the following: having been born in a foreign country, having been born to a non-citizen, having his American father later deny paternity (and prove non-paternity), and having claimed to be a citizen of the Philippines. Sounds like it is difficult to get rid of natural born citizenship. Let's examine Barack Obama's citizenship.
Obama's citizenship will be determined under the 1952 version of the Immigration and Nationality Act since he was born in 1961 and the Act wasn't updated again until 1966. According to § 301(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (66 Stat. 235), "a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person [is a natural born citizen]." According to § 305 of the same statute, any person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900 was to be considered a natural born citizen. Obama's mother was a citizen of the United States, and his father was a citizen of Kenya. They were married six months before Obama was born. There is no doubt that Obama's mother resided in the United States or its possessions for at least one year prior to Obama's birth. Therefore, Obama can't be anything other than a natural born citizen. Combine this detail with his birth in an American State, you have a certified natural born citizen.
Facts are stubborn things. They refuse to go away just because people disagree with them or wish they'd go away. The Birther Movement is a stubborn thing too. It refuses to go away even when proven wrong. It is appalling that the myth of Obama's non-citizenship is allowed to flourish given that a simple search in LexisNexis of "natural born citizen" pulled up all of the relevant case law and statutes. You don't even have to be a lawyer to understand it! However, I learned a long time ago that most people are sheep — they'd rather regurgitate something they've heard rather than doing their own research. And the old adage is true: if you say something often enough, people will believe it. For once let's say the truth often enough and hope people believe it. Let's forget about conspiracy theories and focus on the real issue: Obama's policies. After all, I don't deal well with incompetent people.
© Jamie Freeze
There is one very simple proof of that assertion, eh?
I don’’t appreciate articles that are smug, self righteous and dripping with contempt for those that have a different opinion, but heh, that’s just me.
Facts are based on what we know from hard evidence.
All we know about this putz is someone posted “online” (as if that is hard evidence) a copy of a COLB - which wouldn’t even get any of us a passport.
Oh and we have some hard evidence of the amount of legal fees he’s paid to hide his true birth certificate.
The “natural citizen” stuff- is based on anecdote and faith.
Therefore, Obama can’t be anything other than a natural born citizen.
Well, we don’t know if he kept his citizenship.
The whole argument hinges on this tidbit right here. And as far as I know, it is false. We have not seen the long-form birth certificate and so we cannot say if Obama was, or was not born in Hawaii.
The question being asked ("Is he a natural born citizen?") is a perfectly legitimate question. Obama has spent over $1M to avoid answering it.
You assume he was born in Hi..
Show me the stuborn FACTS about where and when concerning his place of birth, then I’ll look at the rest of your diatribe; If needed.
Facts are stubborn things. IF Obama’s Father is BRITISH CITIZEN Obama Senior, then Obama is not NBC under ANY law whether he was born in the USofA or Canada or Kenya.
Liberals try too hard and show their lack of comprehension as soon as they open their mouths or hit the keyboard.
Yet the section quoted in point #2 of his argument expressly does not refer to ‘natural born’, and he ignores the historical evidence of what ‘natural born’ means and meant. Psssh.
You can contact Jamie at j.l.freeze@juno.com.
False.
He was born in Kenya. Multiple relatives, including his grandmother, say so.
He received a Certificate of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii a couple of years after it became a state, when it was catching up on legal paperwork. People could apply for a COLB long after the fact, with no evidence of anything.
The fact that Obama obviously has no intention of running for a second term proves that he knows he can't.
Another pathetic excuse for a lawyer being spewed out of one of America's law schools. And already arrogant to boot. Just what we need.
Jamie Freeze’s brain must be FROZEN to push such an illogical simplistic argument!
The author is arguing here that Hawaii had no “long-form” birth certificate in 1961.
Why not spend $15.00 plus the .44 postange and have the actual birth certificate released and why hire lawyers to fight off those requests? That’s simple too and IF spending hundreds of thousands on lawyers to fight to keep from spending $15.00 plus .44 is not the height of incompetency, I don’t know what is.
Why post this nonsense?
the entire article is crap once it said that obama was born in Hawaii!!
Like “man made global warming”, it’s settled.
I recently had to get a copy of my birth certificate from the town hall.It didn’t cost me anywhere near the one million dollars Obama has spent to HIDE his!
I wish I had a link, but I don't.
As for where Obama was born? I have no idea, but he is hiding something including his school records! At the very least one has to realize that at the time Obama was born, it was very easy to claim your child was born in Hawaii, all that was required was for the parents to sign a oath stating that your child was born in Hawaii.
To call people idiots because they are open to Obama not being a citizen, is really pathetic!!
The one thing we do know for sure is that Obama is unfit for office, he is not a Christian and he is better suited to driving and operating a honey wagon (septic tank pumping) or possibly some type of work at a morg. I could also see him fitting in nicely at any Burger King/ Wendy`s, probably with the night shift clean up. Or perhaps picking worms at a golf course at night.
The guy is a worthless piece of crap
I love good satire.
same here, and to boot, he overlooked one teensy weensy little thing about the ‘bamster’s mother . At the time of birth of the bam Mama had not yet met residency requirements for the State of Hawaii. i just had to put that in there.
Hawaii was a part of the U.S. long before it became a state.
A “Certificate of Live Birth” is NOT a birth Certificate.
Obama’s tramp harlot of a mother sfornicated her way from Kenya to Indonesia and he could have been born anywhere.
Only the production of a GENUINE Birth Certificate will substantiate the claims of this fraud that he is a Natural Born Citizen.
You don;t spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal fees to prevent people from investigating your birth if you have nothing to hide.
Barrack Hussein Obama is as much a natural born citizen as he is a Christian.
He is a foreign born Marxist Muslim and the true Manchurian Candidate, paid for and delivered by that NAZI-pandering traitor George Soros.
Don’t post BULL CRAP! Do your research before posting!
Read the British Citizenship Act of 1948! Obama’s daddy was a BRITIH CITIZEN and my birth to a British father Jr. was a BRITISH CITIZEN at birth!
***Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.***
There are people in high places who have the facts and are choosing to keep them hidden from the American public.
Why?
Because to admit that BO has pulled the biggest Constitutional hoax in US history would elevate his disgust for the US. His ultimate Nahnaneenahnah!!!
The best scenario is for him to go quietly into the night of an overwhelming 2012 defeat.
Yeah, Hawaii didn't care about such things as which hospital or otherwise, and attending physician, etc. back then. (Do I need to post a sarc tag?)
What all the “the birth certificate issue is settled” folks miss in the argument is not that the document itself is in doubt (though it is for many). The problem with Obama stems from the tangled web of residences, parental citizenships, and travel that he experienced when younger. They cast enough doubt on his origin that the burden of proof is on him to establish that he meets the criteria for election. Add in all the Obama relatives claiming to have witnessed his Kenyan birth, and the newspaper articles, both foreign and US, from just a few years ago that refer to him as kenyan-born, and the uncertain status of his biological father’s citizenship, and you have enough grounds for concern. Beyond that, he has taken great pains to obscure vast swathes of his educational and early-career activities. One can only conclude that he has things in his past that he considers to be of concern, or are outright damaging to his position or qualifications. Again, the burden of proof falls on him to dispel these questions, not on the questioner to prove the validity of their concerns.
No, not just you - me too!
Notice that these article never present any proof to back up their contentions.
Jamie, please send an announcement when any of these qualities begin to show themselves.
How do we know that a million dollars (or some large amount of money) has been spent to cover up Obama’s birth circumstances?
At this point, the birth certificate “scandal” is old news. Someday, years from now, the final conclusion will be known.
What concerns me is why, why, WHY has Barry Barack Hussein Soetoro Obama Dunham NOT released any of his collegiate and law school records?
I am stunned. What’s the evidence that Obama doesn’t intend to run for a 2nd term?
It is a sad thing when the left continues to slam this issue and not a word from our WORTHLESS talking boobleheads on the right.
While our talking boobleheads say stand up, speak the truth to power, they cower and hide and have done the same thing republicans in congress do, NOTHING! Even after Sarah gave them cover to talk about this issue.
Conservative talking boobleheads are all a bunch of worthless cowards.
Also the Hawaii Health Department has never confirmed the Colb that’s online.
Then just show us the birth certificate and shut us all up.
“Let me be the first to say that I personally believe that Obama is closer to the Muslim faith than he is to the Christian faith. I can tell you he is NOT a Christian!!! A Christian does not support the murder of God`s unborn children...”
A strict Muslim would not support abortion, either. 0 is not really religious, except in the sense that socialist ideology is am ersatz-religion.
0 = ZERO
Trained to be intelligent? Based on this one article I see a carer in politics for Jamie. How could someone so well trained in intelligence not offer there superiorly trained intelligence in the service of the poorly trained in being intelligent. I for one am grateful that highly trained law students continue to look out across the fruited plain and see nothing but semi-retarded hicks in desperate need of a master. I can only hope Jamie is attending an Ivy League school; they've done so well in providing quality leadership for this nation over the last 50 years.
Why spend hundreds of thousands if not millions to hide what is purported in the media to be valid?
Who on earth seals their birth record?
A man supposedly so well learned, hiding his college records....why? You'd think he'd be proud of his accomplishments.
It's all about the lack of transparency that creates an environment of secrecy and suspension.
If it is ever found out, even years from now, that Barry was NOT a NBO, there should be open revolt against the ones who conspired to break the law.
The people, ordinary American citizens, protecting the integrity of the constitution, should find these people and arrest them.
Make sure they are held accountable, otherwise the constitution will be a dead document.
Sounds harsh? It is our duty as American citizens to protect our birth rite in the event these politicians, lawmakers, courts also perpetuate the usurping of the constitution by simply not acting to protect her with all vigor.
Damn spell check.... ;)
How do we know it hasn't?
Seriously: I understand that there is doubt about that financial figure. It gets repeated a lot, but there may be no hard evidence that Obama has spent that kind of money. I know there have been numerous court cases, so SOMEBODY is spending SOME amount of money arguing against people like Orly Taitz.
But all of that doesn't really matter: the controversy goes away when Obama shows his birth certificate. He won't.
Why?
Personally, though I remain agnostic on the question of Obama's birthplace and citizenship, and I strongly suspect he's got something to hide on that score, I fear it's a dead issue. At this point we could produce an 8mm home movie of the Zero being born under a Nairobi street sign and the government would simply go on as usual.
“As a law student, I am being trained to be meticulous, well-reasoned, and intelligent.”
LOL. How does one become trained to be intelligent? I used to pull law students over from time to time. It was always a laugher as they tried to be assholes, and play Perry Mason roadside.
A friend of mine was a criminal defense lawyer, and one of the many wise things that he said was all that it took to be an attorney was money and time.
The title of his lecture was "Who's Your Daddy?" and it was to be about the muddled business of black paternity and how it's perceived within the black community.
Curious timing.
Prove it!
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