Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jubilant Senate Dems ready to pass health care
Associated Press ^ | December 23, 2009 | Erica Werner

Posted on 12/23/2009 10:38:30 AM PST by reaganaut1

Exultant Senate Democrats prepared to deliver a Christmas Eve win to President Barack Obama with passage of landmark health care legislation that would extend coverage to 30 million Americans.

Powerless to stop it, Republicans stepped up their attacks, contending the sweeping bill threatened to harm Medicare and add billions to the deficit.

"Tomorrow the Senate will vote on a bill that makes a bad situation worse," Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, said on the Senate floor Wednesday, the 24th day of debate on the 10-year, nearly $1 trillion bill. "This bill slid rapidly down the slippery slope to more and more government control of health care."

Democrats begged to differ. "Senate Democrats are poised to pass historic health reform legislation on Thursday that will extend affordable, quality coverage to millions of Americans in a fiscally responsible way. Our bill saves lives, saves money and saves Medicare," Senate leaders said in a statement.

At the White House, press secretary Robert Gibbs declared, "Health care reform is not a matter of if, health care reform now is a matter of when."

Obama himself said the Senate legislation accomplishes 95 percent of what he wanted. "Every single criteria for reform I put forward is in this bill," the president told The Washington Post.

But even if the Senate approves the legislation, it can't go to Obama for his signature until Congress resolves differences between the House and Senate versions. Some of them are contentious — especially stricter provisions in the House against using taxpayer money to pay for abortion coverage and the House's income tax increase for high-earning Americans.

Before the final Senate vote, Democrats must get past the last procedural hurdle Wednesday afternoon and put up 60 votes for the last time to cut off debate on the legislation.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: democrats; healthcare; obamacare; senatedemocrats
"Jubilant" and "exultant", huh? Let's make sure they are not jubilant after the mid-term elections. I'll be voting in the MA special election for Senator on Jan 19.
1 posted on 12/23/2009 10:38:30 AM PST by reaganaut1
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
We the People by Ray Stevens

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc_-L4fyLUo

Hope it comes up right.

He always says the right things.....

2 posted on 12/23/2009 10:40:30 AM PST by GailA (JESUS is Christmas! Cradle in the shadow of a Cross)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
The Democrats are like kids huddled around the Christmas tree.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

3 posted on 12/23/2009 10:40:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
I'm saving my jubilant for November.....
4 posted on 12/23/2009 10:40:58 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Merry ..... Christmas!


5 posted on 12/23/2009 10:41:35 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

They can pass this with the bribery involved?


6 posted on 12/23/2009 10:45:10 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

When Americans actually get to find out what all this bill is going to cost them..a democrat won’t be able to get elected as dog catcher.


7 posted on 12/23/2009 10:45:27 AM PST by stillafreemind
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Oh, it will be an historic vote alright. In an infamous sense, that is.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 10:46:45 AM PST by OB1kNOb (When you spell Christmas, you must begin with "Christ".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
Exultant?

I'd prefer "bleeding profusely"...

9 posted on 12/23/2009 10:48:06 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Conservatives seem to think that November 2010 will solve everything. Even if they are successful, a very large amount of work awaits.

1. Get tens of millions of people living productive lives instead of living off of the federal nipple.
2. Overhauling the school systems and universities, now in control of collectivists.
3. Re-setting a standard of morality in the public mind that lying, stealing, cheating, coveting and fornicating are wrong. Right now the feds encourage them all with gusto.
4. Ending the existence of about 1/2 of all government agencies, entitlements, grants, earmarks, leeches.

If permanent and huge changes are not made, a win in 2010 will just be a death spasm for the country, a dead-cat bounce. Collectivism never sleeps, never quits pushing, never stops looking for an opportunity.


10 posted on 12/23/2009 10:48:11 AM PST by lurk
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

“”Jubilant” and “exultant”, huh? Let’s make sure they are not jubilant after the mid-term elections. I’ll be voting in the MA special election for Senator on Jan 19.”

How is that election shaping up? Are the Republicans so sound asleep they don’t realize they should be putting money hand over fist in there and fighting a delaying action on the bill?


11 posted on 12/23/2009 10:48:17 AM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

The ignorant are now in the chamber ready for their ‘shower’.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 10:48:41 AM PST by RetSignman (Townhalls ..."We have seen the Patriots and they are us")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Next November is time enough for celebration...


13 posted on 12/23/2009 10:51:40 AM PST by GOPJ (Journalists as BaghdadBobLite - Global Warming Scientists as ElmerGantry - what's happening?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lurk

Excellent list.

I’m glad to see the FUNDAMENTAL nature of the tasks you listed.

The foundation of our country and the proven, formative principles of western civilization, under Leftist assault since at least the mid 1960s, must be restored.


14 posted on 12/23/2009 10:52:48 AM PST by EyeGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Notice how this has nothing to do with improving health care, but everything to do with politics.

Obama is pushing this country towards a civil war. This is unconstitutional.


15 posted on 12/23/2009 10:54:34 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Sounds like they’re doing a lot of laughing.

Some say, he who laughs last laughs best. I say, he who laughs last . . . didn’t get the joke.

And of course, you know the three times a person laughs at a joke, right? One, when they hear it. Two, when they tell it. And three, when they understand it.


16 posted on 12/23/2009 10:54:41 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stillafreemind

“When Americans actually get to find out what all this bill is going to cost them..a democrat won’t be able to get elected as dog catcher.”

That’s a nice thought, but it won’t work out that way. The problems with the healthcare system will be seen as the result of not enought gvt oversight and money, not the injection of gvt into the system in the first place.

Look at Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.


17 posted on 12/23/2009 10:56:11 AM PST by Pessimist (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
They will be laughing at the other side of their faces a year from now.
I am going to be especially delighted to look closely at the broken, botox disfigured face of Nazi Pelosi when she is booted out of the Speaker's chair next year.
18 posted on 12/23/2009 10:59:16 AM PST by SmokingJoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stillafreemind
When Americans actually get to find out what all this bill is going to cost them..a democrat won’t be able to get elected as dog catcher.

It won't matter. Like all enlargements of government power and bureaucracy, this health-care takeover will never be undone, and America will suffer as a consequence. Elections have consequences, and this could easily be the worst of the 2008 election. My anger is aimed not only at the Democrats for ram-rodding this atrocity into law, but also at the Republicans who squandered years in the majority and set the stage for this.
19 posted on 12/23/2009 11:04:11 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist
That’s a nice thought, but it won’t work out that way”

Yes it will.
Look at the this week's polls which were taken after the Senate vote on Sunday. 0bozo's poll ratings hit new lows (56/44 Apprive/Disapprove), even as the generic congressional polls hit new lows as well (44/36 for Republicans).
Look at the New Jersey and Virgina elections from last month.
The Democrats are the living dead right now.

Look at Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.”

You are kidding right?

20 posted on 12/23/2009 11:04:59 AM PST by SmokingJoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

So stealing or healthcare is a ‘win’ for Obama, eh?


21 posted on 12/23/2009 11:06:47 AM PST by Freddd (CNN is not credible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lurk

First, you stop the bleeding ...


22 posted on 12/23/2009 11:09:02 AM PST by Walrus (My congressman is toast in 2010 --- how about yours?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
"Every single criteria for reform I put forward is in this bill," the president told The Washington Post.

Like the part about not raising the deficit?

Or was it the part about premiums not going up?

Or maybe it was lowering perscription drug costs?

Oh yeah, it improves the quality of care?

Yep! Every single criteria. What a Zero this guy is.


23 posted on 12/23/2009 11:10:40 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
I have never before seen a group of politicians so happy to commit political suicide. I've always known liberals are delusional, living in their own reconstructed history, but this is incredible.
24 posted on 12/23/2009 11:12:39 AM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: stillafreemind

Somehow it will get blamed on the Republicans and Bush.....

The media will repeat the lies daily and we will watch in frustration as we loose another election to ignorance.

Merry Christmas Everyone.

Will be praying for a miracle tomorrow.


25 posted on 12/23/2009 11:14:16 AM PST by WomBom (I wonder if my gear is down? We would have touched by now.......Right?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
Jubilant Death Camp guards celebrate

Ben Nelson celebrating the number of abortions his acquiescence to Obamacare will have


26 posted on 12/23/2009 11:16:13 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
Jubilant Death Camp guards celebrate

Ben Nelson celebrating the number of abortions his acquiescence to Obamacare will have


27 posted on 12/23/2009 11:22:00 AM PST by MuttTheHoople (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/TeddyVWad.jpg)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist
Better watch this:

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/12/dick-morris-on-2010-and-what-parker.html

Dick Morris on 2010 and What the Parker Griffith Switch Means (Video)
Morris points out that there are 81 Dems in Congress that are in Districts carried by John McCain in 2008..(Video)

28 posted on 12/23/2009 11:24:25 AM PST by SmokingJoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: lurk

All of that will only happen under one instance: A massive repentance and turn to Christ. We have an immoral, godless government because we have an immoral, godless people. The first responsibility if the Church is the preaching of the Gospel to the masses. If the people repent, the rest will follow.


29 posted on 12/23/2009 11:33:52 AM PST by Longhair_and_Leather (Don't send a boy to do a man's job, send a woman--Sarah 2012!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

Exactly how is this supposed to be a victory for a party that has a super-majority? They damn sure can not be considering this bill an accomplishment.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 11:36:51 AM PST by Made In The USA (The only thing better than bacon, is bacon wrapped in bacon.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: lurk
A journey starts with one step... that first step is in November... and no one on this site thinks any differently. We must celebrate any victory so that we reinforce the troops for future victories.

LLS

31 posted on 12/23/2009 12:02:19 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: MuttTheHoople

thanks for the post...
Hard to believe the happy mood of death/concentration camp thugs.

But it’s is a good thing to see it and contemplate such obscenity.


32 posted on 12/23/2009 12:03:01 PM PST by VOA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: stillafreemind
When Americans actually get to find out what all this bill is going to cost them..a democrat won’t be able to get elected as dog catcher.

0bama's "core constituency" doesn't care, they don't pay taxes anyway, and by the time the rest figure it out, we'll all be broke and out of work.

33 posted on 12/23/2009 12:37:55 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Pork Eating CRUSADER - FUBO! Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

There is always one more idiot than we counted on.


34 posted on 12/23/2009 1:14:36 PM PST by b4its2late (Before you can control a horse, you have to break it. Sound familiar?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1
Exultant Senate Democrats prepared to deliver a Christmas Eve win to President Barack Obama with passage of landmark health care legislation that would extend coverage to 30 million Americans. When I hear this type of garbage, it reminds me of this from a year ago - - Nauseating
35 posted on 12/23/2009 4:56:24 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: reaganaut1

36 posted on 12/23/2009 11:10:27 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SmokingJoe

Actually, no. I’m not.

And again I cite the example of Fannie Mae: The dems are mainly responsible for the whole “sub-prime” crisis, yet what did it cost them?

Obama won, didn’t he? And we still have dem control of both houses, don’t we.

Yeah, sure, there will be some backlash here or there. But I maintain it won’t change the general direction of this country - which is solidly to the left.


37 posted on 12/27/2009 9:38:51 AM PST by Pessimist (u)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Pessimist
And again I cite the example of Fannie Mae: The dems are mainly responsible for the whole “sub-prime” crisis, yet what did it cost them?”

Because it happened under Bush's watch.
0bamacare is under a Democratic House, Democratic Senate, Democratic president. Totally different.

Obama won, didn’t he?”

After McCain had voted for the stimulus and pissed of conservative voters.

And we still have dem control of both houses, don’t we.”

Get back to me on Novemebr 2010 and see if you can make that same claim again.

Yeah, sure, there will be some backlash here or there”,/i>

There is no “hear and there” about it.
The Democrats WILL get slaughtered in next year's congressional elections. It's not even an issue anymore.
The only question is how big the massacre is going to be.

But I maintain it won’t change the general direction of this country - which is solidly to the left.”

Every poll that has conservatives overwhelmingly in the majority in this country, puts a lie to your statement:

“BATTLEGROUND POLL: CONSERVATIVES MAKE UP 63 PERCENT OF AMERICA: WHAT IT ALL MEANS
Here is the latest polling from Battleground. This comes right on the heels of Gallop polling that also shows the majority of Americans consider themselves conservative. This is no fluke either. And as much as we’d love to say that Obama is driving people away from his and his party’s rapidly dying ideology, the truth is Battleground polling, since 2002, has consistently found similar results. Battleground, a bipartisan polling group, has a record of being very accurate.”
http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/Columnists/A_Time_For_Choosing/BATTLEGROUND_POLL_CONSERVATIVES_MAKE_UP_63_PERCENT_OF_AMERICA_WHAT_IT_ALL_MEANS/26566

38 posted on 12/27/2009 10:17:38 AM PST by SmokingJoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson