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Microsoft Word sale prohibited as of Jan. 11, fix promised
Yahoo! Tech ^

Posted on 12/23/2009 2:45:21 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007

Microsoft Word is now scheduled to be prohibited from sale beginning January 11, 2010. That's less than three weeks away. The good news: Microsoft has promised a fix, one which will be rolled out before the deadline arrives.

If you don't understand, you might have simply missed this story, or dismissed it as something that Microsoft would ultimately use its considerable clout to have pushed under a legal rug.

But it's no joke. In August of this year, a court sided with a small Canadian company called i4i that holds a 1998 patent on the way the XML language is implemented, finding that Microsoft was in violation of that patent. The result: Microsoft was told to license the code in question from i4i or reprogram it, or else Microsoft Word would have to be removed from sale in the market. The original ruling gave Microsoft until October to get its legal affairs in order, but appeals pushed that out a bit.

Now a federal court has upheld that original ruling -- plus a fat, $290 million judgment against the company -- imposing the new January 11 D-Day on the matter. Microsoft Word and Microsoft Office will both be barred from sale as of that date -- though naturally you'll still be able to use copies of Word and Office that you already own, and Microsoft will be allowed to keep supporting those copies.

Unless Microsoft ships the promised technical workaround very quickly, things are going to get extremely dicey in the computer world, and fast. Not only will retail outlets selling shrinkwrapped copies of the software be affected, computer manufacturers (who complained loudly about this injunction when it was announced) who bundle Word and Office on the computers they sell will also be seriously impacted by the ruling.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: billgates; microsoft; ms; windows
Interesting.
1 posted on 12/23/2009 2:45:22 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: ShadowAce; N3WBI3

Ping.


2 posted on 12/23/2009 2:50:57 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Who eve uses Word anymore when StarOffice does everything, and free.
3 posted on 12/23/2009 2:52:11 PM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er

eve = even.


4 posted on 12/23/2009 2:52:28 PM PST by libh8er
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Ouch!


5 posted on 12/23/2009 2:52:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

They will have try to get a workaround so that they can get a little leverage in how much that they will have to pay i4i to not have to use it.

This hearkens back to the Microsoft vs. Stacker DOS 4.2 case, where MS had to pull a version of DOS and remove the stolen compression software.

If i4i does not get purchased, or calls MS’ bluff, I would advise those who use Word to turn off “automatic updates” for the time being.


6 posted on 12/23/2009 2:53:52 PM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: libh8er

Sorry that would be OpenOffice. http://www.openoffice.org


7 posted on 12/23/2009 2:53:57 PM PST by libh8er
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To: libh8er

I don’t use MS Word. But I have to have it so I can reformat documents and send them to people who do use it.

This could be a real problem for people who want to buy a new computer with prepackaged software.


8 posted on 12/23/2009 2:55:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This is actually pretty humdrum. When I worked at Microsoft this kind of thing came up constantly. Basically, there are only so many reasonable ways to do things in software and so most every software developer is inadvertently infringing on others’ patents and vice versa. Typically, these issues are resolved with trades, i.e. Microsoft would trade a license to one of it’s thousands of patents in order to use the small company’s. Every once in a while they have to code around one. There’s always a way. It’s a pain, but not that unusual.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 2:55:42 PM PST by shteebo
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To: musicman

BFLR


10 posted on 12/23/2009 2:56:04 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: libh8er

My wife has used OpenOffice for several months. It is a terrible piece of software. It crashes when saving documents frequently leaving the documents corrupted and not able to open. I have heard many brag about OpenOffice but my experience has been terrible.


11 posted on 12/23/2009 2:59:42 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: libh8er
Who eve uses Word anymore when StarOffice does everything, and free.

For the same reason that many of us keep Word around but prefer WordPerfect, which has more features and a more powerful document control features than either.

Other people's programs expect Word's format, programming links, etc. For instance, if you use the accounting package MAS 90/200, there are numerous ways to automate feeding data to Word and Excel that just don't work with other programs.

I might also add that neither StarOffice nor WordPerfect renders Word's .doc or .docx flawlessly. When importing material into Quark XPress or Adobe InDesign, that is also a big deal.
12 posted on 12/23/2009 2:59:53 PM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

MSFT’s Wordpad does everything I need, sans Word’s bloat.


13 posted on 12/23/2009 3:13:16 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: libh8er

OpenOffice is awesome, it even gives me the capability to convert Excel Spreadsheets to PDF, I searched all over for a way to do this, and OpenOffice was the only way I could find, that was free.


14 posted on 12/23/2009 3:15:48 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: businessprofessor

My wife has used OpenOffice for several months. It is a terrible piece of software. It crashes when saving documents frequently leaving the documents corrupted and not able to open. I have heard many brag about OpenOffice but my experience has been terrible.

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I disagree.

1) Never lost a document.
2) Never crashed.


15 posted on 12/23/2009 3:20:18 PM PST by ROTB (40% get gubmint money. Public Option vs. Insurance: Armed men at my door demanding payment vs a bill)
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To: businessprofessor
My wife has used OpenOffice for several months. It is a terrible piece of software. It crashes when saving documents frequently leaving the documents corrupted and not able to open. I have heard many brag about OpenOffice but my experience has been terrible.

Are you sure you've got the right version for your computer and operating system and that it was correctly installed? My own experience with Open Office and Ubuntu has been very good.

16 posted on 12/23/2009 3:23:57 PM PST by Grut
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To: libh8er

You OSS dorks can’t even get your kludgeware right.


17 posted on 12/23/2009 3:33:50 PM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: Grut

And if it’s been more than about a week, there’s probably a new stable build available.


18 posted on 12/23/2009 3:37:19 PM PST by Doohickey (I try to take my days one at a time, but occasionally several days attack me at once.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The automatic uppercasing of first words in the sentence and such automated nonsense drives me up the wall!


19 posted on 12/23/2009 3:39:18 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Are you suggesting a future update could kill it? Just making sure.

I have the updates download automatically, but only the ones I choose install.

20 posted on 12/23/2009 3:40:43 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I’m suggesting a not-ready-for prime time update might be released on 1/11/2010, and that it is best to see how it goes before updating around that time.


21 posted on 12/23/2009 3:50:13 PM PST by Dr. Sivana
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To: Revolting cat!

Then disable them. Just click on Word Options under the main Word menu and look for AutoCorrect Options.


22 posted on 12/23/2009 3:57:15 PM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Understood. Glad I asked. :-)


23 posted on 12/23/2009 3:59:20 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I would bet huge money that some years ago, Microsoft had i4i “demonstrate” whatever product / program / protocol we’re talking about here, decided some months later that they weren’t quite interested in it, and some months after that, abra cadabra, there it is in Microsoft Word.

That’s how Microsoft became Microsoft.


24 posted on 12/23/2009 4:08:27 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: businessprofessor

I have never had OpenOffice crash on me, in windows or Linux. What version you running?


25 posted on 12/23/2009 4:17:39 PM PST by AFreeBird (Going Rogue in 2012)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

>> the way the XML language is implemented

And CO2 is a pollutant.

Anyone familiar with the specifics of the patent violation?


26 posted on 12/23/2009 4:18:37 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: libh8er

Does it work better than your link?


27 posted on 12/23/2009 4:44:48 PM PST by DJ Frisat (How's that change workin' out for ya, Obama voters?)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Well, he who lives by the corruption of intellectual property law dies by the corruption of intellectual property law.


28 posted on 12/23/2009 5:31:21 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The patent affects OpenOffice too, as well as any other word processing program that uses XML.

Using XML to represent a document is obvious to any person ‘skilled in the art’ of computer programming, as the patent lingo goes.

These idiotic combo patents (use A to create B) make practically impossible nowadays to write a non-trivial software application without tripping over a dozen of them. This includes writing freeware for Linux.

I own one of these idiot combo patents: Use SQL to create a user password database. My boss made me apply for it, and I was astonished to see it granted.


29 posted on 12/24/2009 9:14:38 AM PST by Gideon7
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