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Making Obamacare Null and Void is Really Quite Simple
self | December 23, 2009 | Uncle Sham

Posted on 12/23/2009 5:53:15 PM PST by Uncle Sham

WOW! It's so easy. Let them pass their stupid bill. Note what terms are used as descriptors such as "patient", "doctor", "heart", "transplant", etc. REPLACE every one of these words with a new and different descriptor to be used in common everyday practice. Instead of "doctor", use "woctor", instead of "patient", use "bimbo", etc. This would make every bit of the language of this legislation NON-APPLICABLE and a useless. Let them have their bill. Then we the people will simply invent new terms for EVERYTHING in it.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 111th; answer; bhohealthcare; constitution; healthcare
So Simple.
1 posted on 12/23/2009 5:53:15 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

lol.. obozo already is null and void!


2 posted on 12/23/2009 5:55:02 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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To: Uncle Sham

It’s simpler to just translate the whole damned thing into Spanish (it’ll happen in 2010 anyway thanks to McRino & Gramnesty).


3 posted on 12/23/2009 5:59:37 PM PST by rfp1234 (R.I.P. Scotty 7/2007-11/2009.)
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To: Uncle Sham

Except a word is just a reference to what it is, not the thing itself

Just because you relabel something doesn’t make it a different thing.

Nice try though, wish it was that simple.

What you need to do is modify something about a Doctor that no longer makes them a Doctor but a Woctor, etc..

Here is the definition:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/doctor


4 posted on 12/23/2009 6:00:15 PM PST by dila813
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To: Uncle Sham

It’s a great idea on the surface. The problem is, if the hospitals and doctors want licensure and payments, they have to comply with the regulations.

Any clever maneuvering will result in their bills not being paid.


5 posted on 12/23/2009 6:03:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: Uncle Sham
Kinda like substituting Global Warming™ with Climate Change™, right?

I like it! You might be on to something here :)

6 posted on 12/23/2009 6:05:00 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Uncle Sham
instead of "patient", use "bimbo"

Hmmm...

Can I use "whiny baby", for patient?

7 posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:06 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Uncle Sham

You need a license to practice. Who controls the licensing?


8 posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Uncle Sham

I might need a consultation with my fitness engineer. He may need to induct me into a body shop for some small repairs. If necessary, he can issue an order for me to obtain chemical concoctions. While undergoing treatment, the FE (fitness engineer) can refer to me as his human project.


9 posted on 12/23/2009 6:08:44 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Uncle Sham

IBTZ


10 posted on 12/23/2009 6:09:18 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: Uncle Sham

Interesting. Except, they get to make up the names, not us.


11 posted on 12/23/2009 6:10:54 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: dila813

The left wing uses relabeling all the time.
social justice= socialism.
Economic justice = socialism.
choice and competition = government chooses your choice=socialism.
fair compensation=socialism
green jobs = phantom promises

and so on. seems to work for them so far so why not try occupational relabeling

After all, a prostitute is a performing artist.

And I could become a recycled immigrant instead of a natural born citizen.


12 posted on 12/23/2009 6:11:06 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Gene Eric
Who controls the licensing?

The individual States.

13 posted on 12/23/2009 6:17:50 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Gene Eric
"You need a license to practice medicine"

I agree. Do you need a license if you are a "woctor" pasting noodles? I think not. Perhaps all of the insurance companies will have to re-write all of their policies. This is looking like job growth all over the place!

14 posted on 12/23/2009 6:20:50 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Good thinkin’ Uncle Sham

Not a bad idea if you can get “human repair professionals” to buy it and create their own “individual maintenance centers” to do the necessary repair.

There are several “human repair professionals” in my extended family that will do “in home maintenance”.


15 posted on 12/23/2009 6:21:47 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Mr_Moonlight
"Kinda like substituting Global Warming™ with Climate Change™, right?"

:-)

16 posted on 12/23/2009 6:22:31 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: dila813
Just because you relabel something doesn’t make it a different thing.

Remember when Nixon imposed wage/price controls? And what happened in the meat industry?

Retailers couldn't sell meat for a profit so they renamed the cuts and were able to set the price on these "new" cuts. As I recall that's how "California roast" came to be. Government had fixed the price of a boneless chuck roast so instead, there were no more boneless chuck roasts. Just the new California roast.

I'll grant you we can't pull that here, but it is a good illustration of how supply/demand in the real world gets around idiot utopian government edicts.

17 posted on 12/23/2009 6:25:39 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: Uncle Sham

Uncle Sham, if you can get it to work, you have my blessing.

You know that. ;-)


18 posted on 12/23/2009 6:26:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: DoughtyOne

A few years ago there was a Spanish cruise ship that would sail from Ireland and once in international waters, would offer abortions.

That was done of course because abortion was illegal in Ireland.

I don’t see why some enterprising medical company couldn’t do the same for medical care. Pick up patients in port and sail 12 miles offshore to perform what the death panel won’t authorize.

There could also be an “offshore” insurance to cover it for those that want it.

The United States doesn’t have jurisdiction over a Panamanian registered cruise/hospital ship in international waters.

Laws and regulations make business opportunities for the enterprising just like prohibition did for Capone. This however would be perfectly legal.


19 posted on 12/23/2009 6:27:14 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: Uncle Sham; null and void
Pinging null and void, just because I feel like it.

BTW, this is a stupid idea.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

20 posted on 12/23/2009 6:27:16 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: seowulf

>> The individual States.

And that may change, but if not, the force of the Fed, as an arbitrator of all that involves health care and costs, could easily influence the licensing requirements.


21 posted on 12/23/2009 6:28:57 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Uncle Sham; null and void

I suspect nully’d rather be left out of this.


22 posted on 12/23/2009 6:29:06 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: The Comedian

It is a stupid idea. Off book, zero taxes black market medicine is a better idea.

“Back alley dialysis”.

Totalitarian bastards.


23 posted on 12/23/2009 6:35:37 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: saganite

So instead of a ‘cardiac bypass’, the Doc will just list it as: “fixed his ticker, got it runnin’ real smooth now”


24 posted on 12/23/2009 6:36:17 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: Uncle Sham

A Republican member of the House said in a radio interview that all they would have to do is attach an amendment to any bill defunding healthcare if they had enough votes after the 2010 or 2012 elections.


25 posted on 12/23/2009 6:36:29 PM PST by Fu-fu2
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To: DoughtyOne
Here's another thing the States could do right now. Simply pass this One Law
26 posted on 12/23/2009 6:36:29 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Fu-fu2
"A Republican member of the House said in a radio interview that all they would have to do is attach an amendment to any bill defunding healthcare if they had enough votes after the 2010 or 2012 elections."

Doing this as well along with that would really do the trick.

27 posted on 12/23/2009 6:38:13 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: seowulf

It is already underway. Caiman Island General Hospital type plans are under way (there is no such entity by the way - just an example). Of course, they will try to make that illegal too.

Until they are rendered completely and permanently incapable of further resistance or intermeddling, the left will seek to coerce and to kill at their whim. They are not whole people. The exercise of tyranny slakes the thirst of their inferiority as persons.


28 posted on 12/23/2009 6:41:19 PM PST by Psalm 144 (What did you think NEW WORLD ORDER meant? The Constitution? States' rights? Individual liberty?)
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To: Jim Robinson; Alamo-Girl

Any ideas for new terms we can use?


29 posted on 12/23/2009 6:45:35 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Before the Constitution is completely tossed out by Obama & his Communist Posse. It states quite clearly what the Government can’t do to you. And one of those is not being able to force you to buy something. Personally, i think there should be National Fund that we can all pay into.To pay the Best Constitutional Lawyers to pick this thing apart & destroy it. Like any other monster, it must be killed.


30 posted on 12/23/2009 6:47:27 PM PST by dbrew2u
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To: Psalm 144
It is a stupid idea. Off book, zero taxes black market medicine is a better idea.

Bingo!

Everything must be done to starve the hellspawn in DC.

And nobody better dare to quote "Give unto Ceasar" to me.

Ceasar's likeness was on those coins. The US money belongs to US, not the government. They are stealing it, they are counterfeiting it, and they are poisoning OUR PROPERTY.

Take as much as you can, whenever you can, however you can.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

31 posted on 12/23/2009 6:48:23 PM PST by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: DoughtyOne

No what is going to do is create a black market; you’re going to be paying under the table..(of course I suppose the benefit of these transactions is that at least they won’t be “taxed”).


32 posted on 12/23/2009 6:54:28 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.wethepeopleindiana.org (Tea Party Member-Proud), www.travishankins.com (R- IN 09 2010!))
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To: Uncle Sham

...at the very least they are going to cause a tremendous underground economy.


33 posted on 12/23/2009 6:58:24 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Uncle Sham

One major problem for those of us who worked for the State of Georgia and are 65 or older is that according to State Retirement Requirements, we MUST accept Medicare Advantage or we lose our State Health Coverage. If 0bamaCare passes, it will totally screw up tens of thousands of Retired Georgia State Employees.

Is there any other State with a similar requirement for their State (and Teacher) Retirees?


34 posted on 12/23/2009 6:59:06 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Abortion-Euthanasia kills the very people for whom Social Justice is needed.)
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To: Psalm 144
...they will try to make that illegal too

That's when some enterprising "Capone" takes over the business and runs a medical black market.

Prohibition never works if the prohibited product is what the people want. It will cost more of course, but it will be available.

35 posted on 12/23/2009 7:08:55 PM PST by seowulf (Petraeus, cross the Rubicon.)
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To: Uncle Sham
This guy could have done a better job writing the HC bill!

36 posted on 12/23/2009 7:12:44 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Uncle Sham

Call 1-800-DOCTORB

37 posted on 12/23/2009 7:14:37 PM PST by matt1234
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To: dila813

Gay=Gay?
Black=black?
Boy=boy?
Hoe=Hoe?

Sure we can relable...with whole new meanings. The left does it all the time to mean things are racist etc.

They=they?


38 posted on 12/23/2009 7:15:43 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: PGalt; Uncle Sham

“human repair professionals”

Great ideas, guys.

I’m going to start calling an orthopedist a carpenter, a GYN is a plumber, a general surgeon is a mechanic, and a neurologist is a calibrator. Works for me. Screw the commies.


39 posted on 12/23/2009 7:16:49 PM PST by Canedawg (Merry Christmas)
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To: DoughtyOne

Doughty, try out this idea. I go to a doctor. He treats my medical condition for free. There is no bill, and hey NO TAXES to tag along with a bill. This doctor also makes a personal loan to me in the amount of what this “treatment” might have cost had he not done it for free. Heck we’re friends. What’s a few loans between friends? Happens all the time. Now, I agree to pay back this loan at double it’s amount cuz I want my friend to always be my friend. The end result would be that I get treated for free and my medical records would include the medical stuff but there would be no money involved. The doctor might even be able to write off his free medical treatment to me on his taxes. Whatcha think?


40 posted on 12/23/2009 8:15:45 PM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: dila813

Actually, any terms like doctor will be defined in the text of the bill. You can relabel it as a woctor if you want to try and sway people’s opinions, but they will still fit the definition of doctor as given by the bill, and hence still fall under the same restrictions and requirements.

All of those liberal relabelings had nothing to do with anything in a legal sense. social justice, green jobs, etc (list the other guys mentioned) had nothing to do with the actual legislation, but were only attempts to get the public on their side and supporting these ideals. since these terms don’t sound as ‘bad’ people are more likely to support the legislation (or at least not actively go against it) so they can then get it passed and into law. Once its signed into law, thats a whole ‘nother story


41 posted on 12/23/2009 8:30:23 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: seowulf

People are flying from Europe and the U.S. to India, where the lower price of their medical procedures more than pays for the trip—and even the lavish hotels and meals, etc.

I think the Panamanian ship idea is going to happen about two hours after Obamacare starts actually impinging on medical care on land.


42 posted on 12/23/2009 9:09:34 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Svartalfiar
"Actually, any terms like doctor will be defined in the text of the bill. You can relabel it as a woctor if you want to try and sway people’s opinions, but they will still fit the definition of doctor as given by the bill, and hence still fall under the same restrictions and requirements."

Actually, if the terms of defining what a doctor does in the bill do not match what a "car mechanic" does such as changing the oil and rotating the tires, rather than "physical" or "transplant surgery", they cannot legally apply to the car mechanic. The terms say what they say, not everything you might wish them to say.

43 posted on 12/24/2009 5:18:22 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: seowulf

That was a nice post. I think you may be on to something there. Very astute of you...

My only tweak would be that I am not convinced that insurance is the answer. If that offshore ship charged cash, it’s my take that the services would remain more competitive.

Yes it would be harder to come up with the cash, but that being taken into the equation, there would be a lot of pressure on the cruise ship medical provider, to charge prices the public could pay.

You can bet the farm, that the federal government would call that black market health care and either try to destroy the reputation of the provider, or make it illegal to “protect the public”.

We would likely have to fight that federal response. If it was 12 miles off the coast, I’m not sure if they could. I just know they would try to eliminate this option.

They probably couldn’t stop those on the ship from doing what they wanted, but they could outlaw us from traveling to it by boat or helicopter from our waters or airspace. And they could play games with our ability to transfer funds to pay.

It would present an interesting dynamic, and it’s definitely something worth pursuing should this monstrosity pass.


44 posted on 12/24/2009 9:44:24 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: Uncle Sham

Your ideas are good. I just think that there will be a new infrastructure developed to go with the health care plan.

It will in effect, make this a police stated health care plan. Doctors and hospitals, all medical providers will be watched closely to make sure they aren’t participating in medical fraud. And you can expect to see anyone trying the things you are stating, to be gone after savagely as examples.

The public will be told what monsters these people were, for trying to destroy this wonderful new health care system. I don’t think you’ll see to many entities trying to circumvent the regulations. They would lose their licensure, and probably spend years behind bars to boot.

I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but any government oppressive enough to devise this monstrosity, isn’t going to be shy about destroying anyone who doesn’t comply.

These entities will be monitored closely IMO.


45 posted on 12/24/2009 10:06:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: The Comedian

Agreed.

If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?


46 posted on 12/27/2009 10:13:11 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 340 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: RichInOC

You betcha!


47 posted on 12/27/2009 10:14:28 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 340 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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