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Where Did These Guys Come From? The Origins of Obamism [Victor Davis Hanson]
pajamasmedia.com ^ | December 23, 2009 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 12/24/2009 4:32:10 AM PST by Tolik

The Origins of Obamism

I do not think it will be easy to delay Obamism. It is not just that both houses of Congress are under liberal leadership with ample majorities, with a White House and captive media egging them on. The problem is that now the entire engine of the federal government is harnessed in the most unapologetic way to pushing through a far left agenda. There is no shame, no hesitancy in using the full powers of the state.

How does that work out? Without qualification (remember we are in a new age of transparency and ethical reform) votes are bought with hundred-million-dollar earmarks; the attorney general predicates judicial action on the political ramifications of indicting or not indicting; federal bureaucracies (watch the EPA if cap and trade stalls) are devoted to the new Caesar rather than the letter of the law.

Such a strange scenario we have found ourselves in—a clear majority of Americans is opposed to almost everything Obama has to offer; congressional representatives know they are acting against the will of the people, but know too that they are offered all sorts of borrowed money for their districts to compensate for their unpopular actions. And a charismatic commander in chief believes that he can charm even the angriest of critics, and that anything he promises (Iran’s deadlines, closing of Guantanamo, new transparency, no more lobbyists, etc) means zilch and can be contextualized by another “let me be perfectly clear” speech spiced with a couple of the usual “it would have been impossible for someone as unlikely as me to have become President just (fill in the blanks) years ago”

No, I would not count Obama out. So what drives his agenda? What are its origins?

Here are the three most prominent catalysts.

Equality of Result

What Barack Obama advocates is as old as Plato’s Republic and Aristotle’s Politics, the agenda of the classical dêmos and Roman turba.

It is why the French Revolution emphasized égalité and fraternité, while the Founding Fathers instead championed the freedom of the individual from the despotism of the state. In short, equality of result doctrine ignores the role of markets, of skills, of tragedy itself that renders some of us ill, others in perfect health, some born gifted, others less so, some evil by nature, others good, and instead promises that the state can even us all out through its power of material redistribution. Give us all the same amount of money and perks at the end of the day, and then utopia reigns under the benevolent watch of Ivy-League professors and organizers.

It is a given that what we make is not our own, but predicated on the liberality of society. Thus, for those who were too greedy, too conniving, or even too lucky, the state must step in to ensure that we end up the same.

In its most benign form, we know this as progressivism or communitarianism, a big government, high tax philosophy that co-exists within democracy. Its more pernicious strains are socialist, in which the state ensures, through bureaucratic fiat and a labyrinth of laws that curb free expression, that redistribution is institutionalized. And the virulent form (thankfully with the fall of the Soviet Union and the transformation of China not so global-threatening any more)  is, of course, a murderous communism, in which any means necessary are justified to ensure the desire ends and the rule of anointed apparat. Remember, history’s greatest killers (Stalin and Mao) do it all “for the people.”

Multiculturalism

But there is another element to Barack Obama besides progressive statism. A number of contemporary –isms and –ologies (multiculturalism, moral equivalence, utopian pacifism, post-modernism) also help to explain Obamism, especially in cultural terms. Our universities subscribe to race/class/gender theory of exploitation, in which much of the unhappiness of today’s women, of today’s nonwhite, and of today’s poor originates with the privileges of the white Christian Western male that are predicated on oppression.

It works like this: The ghetto resident, the denizen of the barrio, the abandoned and divorced waitress with three young children, can all chart their poverty and unhappiness not to accident, fate, bad luck, bad decisions, poor judgment, illegality or drug use, or simple tragedy, but rather exclusively to a system that is rigged to ensure oppression on the basis of race, class, and gender—often insidious and unfathomable except to the sensitive and gifted academic or community organizer.

So Obama combines the age-old belief that the state is there to level the playing field (rather than protect the rights of the individual and secure the safety of the people from foreign threats), with the postmodern notion that government must recompensate those by fiat on the basis on their race or class or gender. Remember all that, and everything from the Professor Gates incident, to the dutiful attendance at the foot of Rev. Wright to Van Jones become logical rather than aberrant. Michelle Obama could make $300,000 and she will always be more a victim than the Appalachian coal miner who earns $30,000, by virtue of her race and gender.

The Chicago Way

A third and final ingredient to Obamism is the Chicago way. Here we see an interesting updated version of the old big-city, Daley thuggery. Rahm Emanuel threatens recalcitrant congressmen with reminders of the long Obama memory. The Axelrod/Jarrett clique ensures that the government channels stimuli to blue-states, that key Congress people are bought off with tens of millions of government largess, that every campaign promise—from no lobbyists and airing on C-span health care debates to posting impending legislation on the Internet for set durations and “reaching across the aisle”—is simply cynical fluff that no sane person would take seriously.

So?

In short, we have a traditional statist bent on redistribution (Obama’s words, not mine), updated with the postmodern belief that race/class/gender oppressions require government affirmative reactions (which also abroad explains why we reach out to enemies and shun allies), all energized by an ends justify the means Chicago bare-knuckles apparat.

And?

These true believers, then, don’t really care that the Blue Dogs (if such really exist) bite the dust in 2010, if Harry Reid goes up in smoke, or indeed, if Barack Obama is reelected. Instead, they will institutionalize an agenda that will affect America for generations, move it sharply to the left, and earn a spot in the academic pantheon of American heroes.

Asking why would Obama & Co. be so self-destructive to push through an array of proposals that have no more than 45% of the public’s support is like asking whether the English Prof who teaches incomprehensible Foucauldian theory worries whether he has only 2 students, or whether the well-off union boss is all that upset that membership has sunk to  30% of the workforce, or multimillion-dollar-earning  Sarah Palin-interviewing Katie Couric is worried about her sinking ratings, or whether the New York Times columnists are upset that their mother paper is broke with subscription and readership down, and laying off thousands of blue-collar employees.

Instead, for the true believer, it is all about the self, and the sense of the self—and damn all other considerations. (We saw that with Jimmy Carter as well; that he destroyed liberal Democrat politics for a generation meant nothing; that he won prizes and jet-setted the world for thirty years meant everything. For these people, it is always about them—all the time. Let us eat cake as they end up liberal icons  for the duration).

What Are We Left With?

The most blatant cynicism in recent American political history—a man who ran as a bipartisan who is the most partisan we’ve seen, a healer whose even flippant comments are designed to offend, a statist who assumes that the sheared sheep cannot stampede somewhere else, a reformer who trusts his honey-laced rhetoric can disguise Daley style-corruption.

On that happy note.

Everything, as my dear late mother lectured me, happens for a reason, or at least presents a sort of logic—irony, paradox, karma, and nemesis being the best ways of interpreting our unfathomable existences. It took messianic narcissistic Barack Obama to expose the full extent of the mess that a once noble tradition of 19th-century liberalism had devolved into. Only he could have rammed it down the throats of the American people, and when he is done, we will suffer, but also sicken of it for quite a while.

Otherwise, Merry Christmas! And thanks again to the most informed, articulate, and outspoken commentators in the blogosphere!


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1 posted on 12/24/2009 4:32:11 AM PST by Tolik
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Victor Davis Hanson:

Just a partial list: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index:

The War Against the Wannabe Rich. Why attack the productive classes who want to be rich?
The Long March From California to Copenhagen [Hanson on debate between capitalism and socialism]
Obama and the Malleability of History. In pursuit of noble goals, Obama ignobly twists the truth.
Our Flip-Flopping Wars - Iraq was never lost and Afghanistan was never quite the easy good war
The Palin Wonder
Obama’s Wheel of Fortune. The president’s luck has changed — and he doesn’t seem to have noticed
Why Are We Tiring of Obama?
Has War Really Changed? War always involves “a military solution.”
Change, Weakness, Disaster, Obama: Answers from Victor Davis Hanson
If Iran Refuses To Cooperate, Block Its Ports
Resetting the Reset Button [Victor Davis Hanson dissects 0's pathetic diplomacy]
Dean Obama [Victor Davis Hanson dissects 0's West Point speech on Afghanistan]
Change We Can Believe In [Victor Davis Hanson: A list of modest suggestions for REAL change]
Riding the Back of the Tiger [Victor Davis Hanson on Obama not understanding What Causes Wars...]
We Ain't Seen Nothing Yet
The New War against Reason - Medieval heretic-hunters had nothing on Obama when it comes to closed-mindedness
Circling Sharks Smell American Blood: America should keep quieter abroad — and try finding a bigger stick
Palin-Odes? What Drives the Fear and Loathing of Sarah Palin?
Obama’s Prissy America - Why does Obama’s tolerant, apologetic America seem so very self-centered?
What Bush Inherited, and What He Left Left Behind
Who Are ‘They’? To Obama, “they” are responsible for all our troubles. Problem is, “they” are most of us
Afghan Mythologies. We have everything we need to defeat the Taliban.
The Discreet Charm of the Left-wing Plutocracy
Truman and the Principles of U.S. Foreign Policy. Jimmy Carter rejected the postwar consensus. President Obama appears to be following a similar path
America’s Obama Obsession - Anatomy of a passing hysteria
The Kitty-Cat Who Roared - The loud reformer Obama himself proves even emptier in his promises than Bush
Dr. Barack and Mr. Obama - The backlash is sharp as voters learn that Obama is not the man they thought he was
Obama and "Redistributive Change". His real agenda
Bullying Israel-only country with which the U.S. has worse relations since Obama took office
The War Against the Producers
President Palin’s First 100 Days. Imagine if Sarah Palin had Obama’s record
Thoughts About Depressed Americans
Our Battered American [gets angrier - Must Read Rant]
Just a partial list. Much more at the link:  http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/victordavishanson/index
2 posted on 12/24/2009 4:32:35 AM PST by Tolik
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3 posted on 12/24/2009 4:34:37 AM PST by Christian4Bush (2010 and 2012 cannot get here soon enough.)
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4 posted on 12/24/2009 4:34:47 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik

5 posted on 12/24/2009 4:48:22 AM PST by Iron Munro (God is great - Beer is good - People are crazy.)
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To: Tolik; Freee-dame

A powerful article. I appreciate VDH’s optimism at the end - just a slim cord for a lifeline, but I’ll hang on to it.


6 posted on 12/24/2009 4:51:18 AM PST by maica (Freedom consists not in doing what we like,but in having the right to do what we ought. John Paul II)
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To: Tolik
Love VDH, but even he is operating under the assumption that when we sicken of this totalitarian regime, we'll just be able to trade it in.

I assure you, that will not be the case.

7 posted on 12/24/2009 4:54:35 AM PST by ponygirl ("Actum est de republica." -"It is all over with the republic.")
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To: Tolik

This health care bill is the icing on the socialist cake, only they will only make you pay for it and you wont get to eat it.

I wrote this opinion below in February of 2009.

Add in to your thoughts when you read it, that today, at 0712 E.S.T., our nation became Socialist when they had their 51st vote for Health Care.

May God Have Mercy on America.

Subject: Points to ponder about our new President: Somber reading

As Marines, we did NOT swear an oath to the President in the first sentence, we swore it to the Constitution.Our founding fathers made clear distinctions between the 3 powers of government: Executive, Legislative, Judicial.

While the President leads, he has the Congress to enact laws and the Court to make sure the law is upheld. For ANY of those three to go AGAINST the Constitution, that is treason itself.

Bush’s enactment of the Patriot Act was to save our country, while Clinton’s spying on her domestic enemies by acquiring over 1800 FBI files on private American citizens was treasonous, illegal, and laughed away as a silly mistake, just like Democrats not paying taxes and becoming Treasury Secretary. TO be so bold and blatant against the laws of the country, and to have a political party defend these criminalities is treason in itself.

Our founding fathers gave us the SECOND AMENDMENT for just that reason, that if our government ever became so tyrannical, we the people would have the power to overthrow it if need be, by force, by arms, with guns.

The greatest problem here is the absolute hypocrisy of democrats when it comes to politicians upholding the law. Example: Scooter Libby did NOT reveal Valerie Plame’s name to the media, Democrat Richard Armitage did and the special counsel knew that on the 3rd day of the trial from Robert Novak, yet the Special Counsel pushed and pushed until he found Libby make a mis-statement so he could hang someone in the Bush administration for something.

That is a complete political abuse of power. When we compare the crimes of the Clinton administration against Bush, Bush is a boy scout, yet Bush never prosecuted Clinton for sending missile technology to China in exchange for campaign donations, never prosecuted Clinton for allowing Iran to arm the KLA in Serbia against UN resolutions while the rest of the world was stunned, never prosecuted Clinton for allowing the war against Serbia in the first place since it was the Serbs fighting against MUSLIMS who were slaughtering Serbs that started the whole thing over there.

The list goes on.

It is the Democrats who had over a dozen personnel who were known Soviet Spies in the Roosevelt Administration, proven by the Venona papers;
http://www.conservapedia.com/List_of_Americans_in_the_Venona_papers

The democrats who defended Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for decades after their execution only to have their other spy friend and conspirator, Morton Sobell, admit on his death bed 3 months ago that they actually did it;
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-radosh17-2008sep17,0,864776.story ,

And not just nuclear secrets, too, but according to the article cited: “Not only did they try their best to give the Soviets top atomic secrets from the Manhattan Project, they succeeded in handing over top military data on sonar and on radar that was used by the Russians to shoot down American planes in the Korean and Vietnam wars.”

Books have been written about the democrats complicity with Soviet policies and plans by men such as John Stormer,
FDR’s reckless economics and corruption detailed by John Flynn http://www.rooseveltmyth.com/book/hbzfrm.htm ,

This dalliance with Communism is also Obama’s favorite topic apparently.

The democrat platform is almost identical to the Communist Party Goals:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/cpusa-and-obama-platforms-are-identical

The democrats want to take over your 401K...ITS YOUR MONEY:
http://online.wsj.com:80/article/SB122662401729126813.html

Obama supporters flew the Soviet Flag in DC when protesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYwSGRZGoqA

Obama plainly stated that he will allow a company to build a coal plant, but that he intends to cause them such absurd costs to keep it environmentally friendly that it will intentionally bankrupt the company trying to build it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

Audio of Obama declaring he wants to redistribute the wealth JUST LIKE COMMUNISTS do:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

The Democrats SOCIALISTS had a dinner where Obama was lead speaker:
http://groups.google.com/group/chi.politics/browse_thread/thread/d5d92296fba9a75f/17699d1e87cff10e?lnk=st&q=obama

Internet Archives confirmed Obama was a member of the openly Socialist NEW PARTY of Illinois in 1996:
http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/10/web-archives-confirm-barack-obama-was.html

Obama’s economic team says they want to create jobs that intentionally exclude White males:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxuUj6vFa4

Obama lied to the Illinois Court system when he was asked if he ever went by any other name. His real name was Barry Soetoro in Indonesia:
http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/08/13/breaking-photo-documents-barry-soetoro-indonesian/

While campaigning in New Hampshire, Obama cancelled the singing of the national Anthem to make room for more ‘speakers’:
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Obama%3a+%27You+can%20not+let+up%27&articleId=1a7835c3-2468-4e6c-8d56-7253c033232a

Obama clearly said he wants a Civilian Security force as well funded as the Military.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2PP4pYGno

That is what every secret police force ever started like in all dictatorships, such as:NICARAGUA Ortega’s “Councils of Citizen Power”; CUBA Fidel’s “Committees For Defense of the Revolution”; PANAMA Noriega’s “Dignity Battalions”; VENEZUELA Chavez’s “Popular Defense Units”; HAITI Papa Doc’s National Security Volunteers, commonly called the Tonton Macoutes; CHINA Mao’s Red Guards; IRAN Ayatollah’s Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution; Soviet Komsomol or “Communist Union of Youth”:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/11/obama_fear_and_the_security_fo.html

Recent documents and proclamations of his own President-Elect status show his agenda is similar to Soviet/Nazi history in their control and organization of the youth and the population. The following is a Communist Youth program information found here:
http://www.geocities.com/youth4sa/abern.html

“”Of all other tasks, some of the outstanding ones are outlined. The widest degree of activity of the youth in the class struggles of the day is imperative, it goes without saying. Nevertheless, it would be a decidedly short-sighted and opportunistic approach if the communist youth movement allowed itself to be involved, under pressure or pretexts of all sorts, in all kinds of routine activity, and to be made into a wagging or running tail of other bodies, political, trade union, etc. in order to achieve a name for ”activities”. There are some, perhaps, who believe that this very routine work, doing some of the distasteful work for the adult comrades, is the task of the youth.

But it is in the communist youth organization that the youth (young worker or student) must make their major opportunity to learn thoroughly the fundamental principles and theory of the communist movement, its history, etc. in order really to be prepared for intelligent participation and leadership, at a later period, in the adult organization, the Party. It has to be said plainly that in the adult organization, the opportunities are often too limited for serious and necessary study by the ranks. Lack of time and the need to carry through numberless concrete tasks after working hours are the main reasons therefore. The adult members have to place a great reliance, perhaps too much, on experience and the theoretical back-ground can or should to a large degree be obtained by the youth in the years they are apart of the communist youth organization. This knowledge, coupled with their activities otherwise, will serve as a strong safeguard against opportunism and adventurism.In the above sense, the slogan of Clarity and Action sums up the attitude of the communist youth. While stressing education and class struggle activity, a youth movement, communist or otherwise, cannot live by these alone, especially so if the communist youth organization is to attract the wider strata of the youth to its own banner or around its bona-fide sympathetic auxiliary bodies. Social, sport, and cultural activities need to be systematically developed. The youth movement needs to build its dramatic and musical groups and like mediums which attract the youth. It can be done; who says otherwise needlessly narrows the possibilities for rallying youth elements to the communist cause through diverse methods. Particularly must the communist youth foster a broad workers’ sport movement of which it must be a guiding participant. The insidious and malevolent influence of the bourgeois sport movements, both professional and amateur is immense, and systematic efforts are required to counter-act this influence on the mass of American youth. A general social and cultural life, in addition to the basic tasks outlined before, will tend to attract young workers and students around us. If the new forces are approached sympathetically, made to realize our genuineness, they will either join the communist youth organization, or at least remain sympathetic, even if not ready to accept the entire outlook of communism. Numerous other tasks for the youth can be posed, but space forbids.”

Obama’s campaign clearly tried to silence dissent of any criticism of Obama while claiming his higher moral authority, going so far as to claiming Obama is THE MESSIAH:
http://www.spectator.co.uk/print/melaniephillips/2293196/pinch-yourself.thtml

When visiting troops overseas, Obama refused to meet with wounded troops in Germany and also Afghanistan, something NO responsible politician would ever do, even if he was just pandering for votes, they would have visited the wounded troops:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,567821,00.html
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D924E4KO0&show_article=1
http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/07/from-gi-in-afgh.html

Obama openly praises a racist pastor whose church he attended for over 20 years:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh7xMhsLnac

Obama openly makes racist jokes that his white half will be confused as who to vote for:
http://gawker.com/5070800/bloggy-obama-tells-absurdist-jokes

Obama’s prayer leaders at his inauguration included someone associated with Islamic terror group HAMAS:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17562.html

Percy Sutton (Malcolm X’s Lawyer) Says Barack Obama Knows And Was Financed By The Racist Radical Muslim And Saudi Advisor Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIVO8MZYXo8

There were a number of known, public, and extremely violent terrorist organizations that openly endorsed Obama. Would they have endorsed a Republican Conservative?
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1225199589258&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Mohammed Al-Churbaji, Dad of Obama Fundraiser, worked for Azzam, Bin Laden.
www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/06/exclusive_who_i_1.html

Obama traveled to Africa and openly campaigned with his cousin, Raila Odinga who lost the election, and whose followers murdered hundreds when he lost and burned down over 100 churches and zero Mosques:
http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/08/10/senator-barack-obama-in-kenya-obama-and-odinga-the-true-story/

We are dealing with someone who wants to take over our present system of economics, our present system of civil rights, and even change our Constitution as he plainly said when he said it was a flawed document. In conclusion, we are dealing with a man whose associations include but are not limited to the following:

1.) Kenyan opposition candidates whose followers murdered hundreds when he lost and burned down over 100 churches and zero Mosques.

2.) Domestic terrorists who murdered up to 6 Americans in bombings, robberies, shootings and other murders to include Police Officers and the bombing of civilian houses own and occupied by a Lawyer and family who thankfully escaped death that night.

3.) proven 20 years of association with a racist theologian and the associations that go along with that man and theologian; the standard blame white America first sentiment, regardless of how true it was 150 years ago, the changes made in our own lifetime are disregarded and only demand more.

4.) His own family’s statements of what his supposed moral foundation is and how his own statements declare that he will side with a religion that is historically known to kill their opponents first and refuse to negotiate until their opponents are subdued and begging for mercy

5.) His campaign received millions of dollars that are untraceable to the original donors, and of the millions that are traceable that came from overseas, a FEDERAL CRIME, and how his campaign removed the Credit Card checking of names and account numbers to verify the credit cards were valid

6.) His association with known supporters of Islamic Terrorism, of groups known as Hamas and Hizbullah.

7.) Of his party’s refusal to demand he release his personal records for examination by the American people so as to know the candidate better, while they themselves have a history to demand documents from 40 years ago that pertained to President Bush. His party’s refusal to demand the Military records of John Kerry and the College records of Barak Obama are a part of his political party’s hypocrisy.

8.) The re-introduction of THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE, a form of censorship written by the Democrats to silence the effects of Talk Radio. NOT ONCE has the Democrat Party ever referred to the massive ideological outnumbering of Liberals to Conservatives in the mainstream media, and only refer to ‘fairness’ when considering Talk Radio and the Internet.

As anyone knows, who has been paying attention, this can only mean Conservative Talk Radio and open Internet communication.Knowing that Obama associate Bill Ayers freely referred to Saul Alinsky, and Knowing that the writings off Saul Alinsky openly promote Communism and radical overthrow, who dedicated his book RULES FOR RADICALS to SATAN only confirms what I call the criminality of this administration.

We all took a vow to protect and defend the Constitution of The United States of America, Against ALL Enemies, Foreign and Domestic...Will Obama be a Patriot after all or an enemy of the Constitution is a sad question that the informed can only be saddened to think of the answer.

So, just what is treason then? Overthrowing our entire economic system to one that is proven to have failed worldwide is treason? or Americanism?

Submitting to and apologizing to Islamic terrorists who have repeatedly threatened to KILL US, ME AND YOU if we don’t become Muslim? Is that Treason? or Americanism?

Taking ALL YOUR MONEY in the bank to be kept by the government to use as the government sees fit, is that treason or Americanism?

Jim Bancroft Feb 3, 2009
USMC 1977-1981

If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. WINSTON CHURCHILL


8 posted on 12/24/2009 4:55:37 AM PST by RaceBannon (OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE IS SHOVEL READY...FOR SENIORS!!:: NObama. Not my president.)
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To: Tolik
Obama/Pelosi/Reid can ram this crap through, & the American People can see that is just a quickly repealed.

Should Obamacare become law, I will not support any candidate for office that does not vow to immediately repeal this criminal conspiracy of a bill. And I don't want to hear any crap about amending this monster. The WHOLE bill must be repealed, if signed into law.

9 posted on 12/24/2009 4:58:12 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Tolik

I have always enjoyed Victor Davis Hansen. This has to be one of his best articles. It is time to head to the book store and buy some of his books. He really understands what is going on.


10 posted on 12/24/2009 5:01:23 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: ponygirl
I think you are certainly correct that we'll not easily get rid of what Obama has wrought.

But if it is any consolation, the harder we have to fight to rid ourselves of it, the more the victory will mean to us and to the country...and the greater will be our defense against its return.

11 posted on 12/24/2009 5:04:56 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: Tolik

Succint summation. My hope is a complete overturn of Congress. Read your history - Kansas - Nebraska Act of 1854. Of course, the next ten years were pretty rough.


12 posted on 12/24/2009 5:08:02 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Tolik
updated with the postmodern belief that race/class/gender oppressions require government affirmative reactions (which also abroad explains why we reach out to enemies and shun allies)...

I don't see what VDH means here...why does government affirmative action lead to reaching out to our enemies and shunning our friends?

Anybody?

13 posted on 12/24/2009 5:09:02 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: Tolik
The Origins of Obamism

I'm sorry but 'Obamism' sounds like a dirty word.
I think I'll go bathe in lye.

14 posted on 12/24/2009 5:09:31 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Tolik

Harvard, Berkley, UC Davis


15 posted on 12/24/2009 5:10:07 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Lukenbach Texas is barely there)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Anybody?

They call it "solarity" based on race / economic condition. It's, at root, a perversion of the Christian virtue of compassion and love for all God's creation, based on His image and likeness.

16 posted on 12/24/2009 5:12:40 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Tolik

EqualityOfResults vs EqualityOfOpportunity

Only one is true equality.


17 posted on 12/24/2009 5:17:58 AM PST by samtheman
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To: RaceBannon

Wow....lots of reading! Thank You!


18 posted on 12/24/2009 5:19:06 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: Iron Munro

19 posted on 12/24/2009 5:19:28 AM PST by Tolik
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To: don-o
Gotcha!

Obama is flipping the existing (Judeo/Christian) value system on its head (calling evil, good and good, evil) and this results in a flipping of our friends and enemies accordingly.

20 posted on 12/24/2009 5:19:50 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
I think the interpretation is that the bad people of the world are bad because "we" have oppressed them. The Palestinians, the Iranians, African dictators -- these people may be bad, but that's our fault. We made them. So now, our government has an obligation to reach out and give them things and help them in every way we can, to make up for our long history of white racist oppression and exploitation.

Meanwhile, a country like the UK or Israel, since they are successful, must (by definition) be part of the problem. They also exploit and oppress. If we were to reach out to these nations, it would send a bad message to the bad people of the world and make it seem like we were not sufficiently contrite about our own past mistakes. Therefore, we must shun the UK and Israel (and others) and we must make an extreme effort to help the dictators around the world.

It shows we care.

21 posted on 12/24/2009 5:25:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

typo - “solidarity”

In the 60’s it was idealistic kids going to Cuba to harvest sugar cane for Fidel. That could be somewhat understood as youthful enthusiasm with a large dose of arrogance and ignorance about how the world really works.

Some of us were there with them “in spirit.” But, we finally grew up and educated ourselves (which task most of our professors had deferred to indoctrinating us.)

But, many us us took the indoctrination to heart and nade it their life’s goal. They have won this round. But, the fight is not over.


22 posted on 12/24/2009 5:26:57 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Tolik

The wonderful weakness of evil organizations is that they develop as or into obelisks: tall and spindly, with almost all power concentrated at the top. When the top cracks and falls (as narcissist Hussein must, given enough pressure), the whole structure crumbles. Please God, let it be today!


23 posted on 12/24/2009 5:28:04 AM PST by JohnQ1 (War declared. Fire at will.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Correct!


24 posted on 12/24/2009 5:33:32 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: zot; Interesting Times

ping


25 posted on 12/24/2009 5:34:40 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I appreciate VDH’s words of wisdom, but I still wonder just who/what is behind BO. While BO is totally impressed with himself, I don’t see him being smart enough to pull all this off. Is it Soros or someone else like him? BO’s like a wind up doll who is trained in what to say/read.

My other great concern is that this country can’t wait until 2012 to run him out of office. I see our two choices as total change in the 2010 election - get rid of democrats and any RINO’s — assuming we can find decent people to run. The other is IMPEACHMENT of BO. I personally think he’s committee enough crimes against Americans and the Constitution to warrant impeachment action.


26 posted on 12/24/2009 5:42:23 AM PST by Elkiejg (GO SARAH GO!!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Thx!


27 posted on 12/24/2009 5:43:26 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Al Qaeda only hijacked commercial aircraft...Obama hijacked the White House!)
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To: Elkiejg

oops typo = he’s committed enough.....


28 posted on 12/24/2009 5:44:35 AM PST by Elkiejg (GO SARAH GO!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

As good a summation on why we are where we are as you will read, methinks.


29 posted on 12/24/2009 5:57:03 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: Tolik

Why can’t this man be the norm in our universities? If we had more like him, we wouldn’t be in this shape.


30 posted on 12/24/2009 5:58:13 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Tolik

Pick up any rock, move the snail and that’s where BO & Company came from...


31 posted on 12/24/2009 6:03:21 AM PST by maddog55 (Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him.)
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To: RaceBannon
The other form of hypocracy VDH left out of this: thievery. Despots who talk redistribution never walk the talk. They loot the people of their assets and become wealthy themselves. They shove laws down the people's throats from which they exempt themselves.

The ultimate problem, though, is the voter. Anyone who was willing to do a few minutes' worth of research should have known who Obama is. Stop voting for bumper stickers, yard signs, lofty-sounding speeches of no substance, and slick TV commercials.

32 posted on 12/24/2009 6:20:17 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: don-o

“Of course, the next ten years were pretty rough.”
Maybe it’s time to get “pretty rough” again.


33 posted on 12/24/2009 6:25:05 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Because of the left’s fetish of a (perceived) weakness. It’s all encompassing. Nothing else matters. Weak is always in the right, strong is always in the wrong. That “weak” may be lazy, or wrong, or evil, or simply unlucky. Other side’s hard work, or virtue, or talent does not matter.

It’s ironic that one of the most popular accusations of Bush from the Left was that they said he approached the world’s problem as “black and white”, no shades of gray allowed. It’s ironic because The Left is more guilty of this no shades of gray approach to strong-weak than Bush ever was. Just one example out of thousands: The Left’s “human rights” organizations are unrelentingly critical of democratic, human rights supporting, gay tolerant Israel, much more than of murderous, “human rights is western creation”, gay killing Hamas.


34 posted on 12/24/2009 6:29:39 AM PST by Tolik
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To: don-o
Bingo!

I viewed it as a perversion of the Biblical "first shall be last; last shall be first." In fact, ALL of socialism, communism, collectivism is a perverse reading of the Christian message. That's why it's so hard to defeat. It's a counterfeit theology that requires the recipient have really, really good eyes and ears to catch.

35 posted on 12/24/2009 6:43:39 AM PST by Oratam
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To: ponygirl

It took the Russians 70 years to throw off the chains of Soviet communism and the Poles did it in 40 years. It CAN be done. Probably not in our lifetimes and probably not without another, perhaps violent, revolution.

Merry Christmas!


36 posted on 12/24/2009 6:57:48 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Tolik

When are we going to make our politicians accountable?


37 posted on 12/24/2009 7:17:47 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Mister Da

Great post. Enough links for the whole week. Thanks!!


38 posted on 12/24/2009 7:39:01 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Tolik
Michelle Obama could make $300,000 and she will always be more a victim than the Appalachian coal miner who earns $30,000, by virtue of her race and gender.

That's the kernel of the racism at the heart of leftist academia, but it's worse than that. The Appalachian coal miner isn't just "less of a victim", he's a blinkered, bigoted stooge of the oppressor class, excluding and threatening the real victims with his clinging to "God and guns." He is as much a "perpetrator" in the leftist mythology as any robber-baron.
39 posted on 12/24/2009 7:46:05 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: ponygirl
I agree.

I was taken aback with this statement:

"It took messianic narcissistic Barack Obama to expose the full extent of the mess that a once noble tradition of 19th-century liberalism had devolved into. Only he could have rammed it down the throats of the American people, and when he is done, we will suffer, but also sicken of it for quite a while."

The presumption is that it snuck up on us which is not the case. Conservatives have shouted out, long and hard, against the thuggish agenda of operators like 0b0z0 to anyone who would listen.

The problem is that too many people long for the yoke of oppression - sold under the guise of "cradle to grave" nanny-ism. Between the allure of "simplifying my life by turning it over to the government" and the "something for nothing" types far too many have leaned toward the state as a crutch.

I wish I knew the answer to this mess - I do not. I have prepared as best I can for the the natural consequence of 0baminism - the collapse of civil order. I won't say how or to what extent because I know that we are being monitored. I also decline to say how I will react should a state (or my state) rebel for the same reason.

Dark times are coming. Our economy is amazingly resilient, but it is not bullet-proof. It can take only so many hits. The dhimmicrats are hell-bent on forcing it to do things that defy the natural laws and in doing so will plunge us into catastrophe.

Keep your powder dry...
40 posted on 12/24/2009 7:53:45 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Tolik

The toxic word to all that VDH mentions is “Responsibility.”
These creatures of the self loathe the word and the concept.
But most respectable conservatives do not want to destroy the Left they want to make a living catching the crumbs and so this wonderful tool will sit idle while all the time we have to digest idle speculation about abstract polemics.


41 posted on 12/24/2009 8:05:50 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: GreyFriar

VDH gets to the heart of the matter. Thanks for the ping.


42 posted on 12/24/2009 8:13:01 AM PST by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: ponygirl
Love VDH, but even he is operating under the assumption that when we sicken of this totalitarian regime, we'll just be able to trade it in.

I assure you, that will not be the case.

Absolutely right! They have fought too long, most of it under the radar, and too hard to not hold on to it now. They have been seeding the path to success for several years by using groups like ACORN to sign up illegal and phony voters, voters still on the rolls, and they will be adding more. If that somehow fails they will then go to the courts and have as many recounts as it takes, "finding" new votes along the way, to eke out a victory.

If that fails, or if pre-election polls show the likely hood of losing, there will be a crisis requiring federal intervention with martial law or somesuch.

We are no longer in the realm of politics as usual.

43 posted on 12/24/2009 8:15:12 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Tolik

VDH and Charles Krauthammer are two giants who are always right....except for minor things


44 posted on 12/24/2009 8:16:32 AM PST by dennisw
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To: RaceBannon

Amen

Bookmark this thread!


45 posted on 12/24/2009 8:19:25 AM PST by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: rockrr
I'm actually trying to figure out what he means by "19th-century liberalism." I'm assuming he's referring to the liberal movement of in early 19th century Europe which was largely a reaction to the Napoleonic Wars and their aftermath.

I usually think of it as "18th century liberalism", though, particularly in the American context. The traditions that informed liberalism in the 19th century were largely set forth by 17th and 18th century thinkers like Locke, Smith, and Kant. The United States had, of course, adopted this tradition in the late 18th century, and it continues to serve as its first and greatest expression in the world.

I'm hoping he isn't talking about late 19th century Progressivism, which is where modern American "liberalism" has its roots. I'm pretty sure he isn't, though - Hanson is pretty Euro-centric in his history and knows the difference between liberalism and progressivism, so I'm pretty sure he was referring to the 18th-early 19th century thought that forms one of the foundations of modern American conservatism.
46 posted on 12/24/2009 8:21:48 AM PST by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: The Pack Knight

Unfortunately I took his meaning to be the latter. It is uncharacteristic of VDH to be so imprecise in his verbiage and is the reason for my unease. Either way (and thank you for defining them so well) it presents a troubling (mis)characterization of players and events.

Classic Liberalism hasn’t devolved into a mess and there is nothing noble about Progressivism.


47 posted on 12/24/2009 8:46:45 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
In the 1920's, Progressivism gave us Recall, Referendum and Initiative, in many states. Which many conservatives consider good things.

Though from a pure Republican point of view (and this is Free Republic), these were not steps forward.

48 posted on 12/24/2009 8:53:18 AM PST by cookcounty (Let us not speak of the honor of men. Rather, let us bind them with the Constitution. --Jefferson)
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To: ponygirl

If you mean that “The Divine One” and his apostles will not voluntarily surrender their offices, then I agree that there is a good possibility that this will be so. It is time for Americans to start thinking about “keeping their powder dry.” The coming election will be a good test. If it is as corrupt as I think it will be then the current crowd will maintain power signaling to the rest of us what must be done.


49 posted on 12/24/2009 9:00:13 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: cookcounty

The cynic in me sees them as anti-ethical shortcuts to good governance. The pragmatist in me recognizes them as as a natural reaction to poor governance. In an ideal world where we actually looked past the immediacy of our own interests and elected representatives who possessed integrity none would be necessary.

Unfortunately it is far from an ideal world.


50 posted on 12/24/2009 9:10:46 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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