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Oklahoma Has Biggest Deficit Among States
insurancejournal ^ | December 22, 2009 | insurancejournal.com

Posted on 12/24/2009 8:54:22 AM PST by dragnet2

Oklahoma has the unwanted distinction of having the largest revenue shortfall of any state, according to a new report.

That reality is illustrated by the state's revenue collections, which are down by more than 25 percent from a year ago.

The state last week ordered yet another round of cuts, this time instructing agencies to cut 10 percent from their budgets.

A November state budget report by the National Conference of State Legislatures says Oklahoma's 18.5 percent shortfall for the current fiscal year edges out Arizona's 18 percent, with Illinois in third at 16.5 percent.

State agencies appeared to be taken by surprise by the 10 percent reduction. Departments have been putting workers on furlough and cutting services to cope with the 5 percent reduction.

Lauri Monetti, a Department of Human Services spokeswoman, said the additional cuts threaten programs that have been protected to this point because of the federal matching money they attract.

She said cuts in one-time expenditures will likely be made first. She said the “effect will be more significant” if the negative trend in revenue doesn't reverse soon.

The prison system, which is more reliant on state general fund revenue than most departments, is still analyzing the situation.

Corrections Department spokesman Jerry Massie said the agency has already had a round of early retirements and is running furloughs. The department work force is at three-quarters of its authorized strength.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; oklahoma; redstates
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Departments have been putting workers on furlough and cutting services

Arizona? Oklahoma?

Hmmm

1 posted on 12/24/2009 8:54:26 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: UnRuley1

Ping!


2 posted on 12/24/2009 8:55:31 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Hey now, The Age of Obama is hard on all 57 states.

Wealth redistribution (ie: looting state and federal coffers) and destroying nations doesn’t come cheap.


3 posted on 12/24/2009 8:57:15 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

ping....lol


4 posted on 12/24/2009 8:58:08 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: NormsRevenge

Hey, this trend seems to be spreading!

Shazzam!!


5 posted on 12/24/2009 8:59:05 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

And Congress has just dropped their “Christmas present” on these states which is going make things even worse. That is, every state except Nebraska. They took a sweetheart deal to get this commie beast through Dingy Reid’s “senate.” The rest of the country will be paying their portion.


6 posted on 12/24/2009 8:59:05 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember in November! Throw all of the bums out!)
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To: All

Why don’t they just ask the federal government for more free stuff to make up the difference?

My Oakie friends, feel free to field that gem of a question :-)


7 posted on 12/24/2009 8:59:49 AM PST by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: dragnet2

Thankfully, it seems that our governer isn’t bleating to congress for a handout, yet.


8 posted on 12/24/2009 9:00:37 AM PST by tal hajus
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To: dragnet2

Not surprising that my State is hurting...but I suspicion that some other States are cooking the books and are even worse off. JMHO.


9 posted on 12/24/2009 9:03:03 AM PST by pepperdog (As Israel goes, so goes America!)
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To: dragnet2

Thanks. I missed the post on Oklahoma. So we have Arizona, California, Nevada and Oklahoma. Any other States? Michigan?New York?


10 posted on 12/24/2009 9:04:30 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: tal hajus
Thankfully, it seems that our governer isn’t bleating to congress for a handout, yet.

Don't mean to be harsh friend, but your bloated corrupt state government there in Oklahoma will be coming after you.....

Ya see they need to prop up their fat government salaries, their bloated government benefits and their opulent lottery style government retirement benefits.

11 posted on 12/24/2009 9:04:34 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

I suggest that Oklahoma impose a “Redneck Tax.” Maybe a nickel per beer can, $1.00 on any article of camo clothing, 50 cents per can of Bucksnort, $10 on each 4-wheeler, $50 per pickup (said tax to specifically exclude 1985 Dodge Ramchargers) and $100 per female over 18 in Oklahoma because Oklahoma girls are just not human.

parsy, who knew one real well


12 posted on 12/24/2009 9:12:25 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: NormsRevenge
What do they say about Cal?

Oklahoma gets what they deserve!

13 posted on 12/24/2009 9:13:14 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: parsifal

You advocate raising taxes?


14 posted on 12/24/2009 9:14:21 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: dragnet2

California leads the way again.. off the cliff.. into the abyss. splat!


15 posted on 12/24/2009 9:14:52 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. May yur bandwidth exceed your girth)
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To: dragnet2
Why don't they just raise taxes?

Like California does?

Or borrow on non-existent "future" revenues?

16 posted on 12/24/2009 9:15:27 AM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: dragnet2
Why don't they just raise taxes?

Like California does?

Or borrow on non-existent "future" revenues?

17 posted on 12/24/2009 9:15:40 AM PST by Publius6961 (…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
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To: Turbo Pig
Why don’t they just ask the federal government for more free stuff to make up the difference? My Oakie friends, feel free to field that gem of a question

All the Oklahoma people are over on the California threads laughing about their deficits and corrupt state government.

:o

18 posted on 12/24/2009 9:16:12 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Here come the stories presented by the Lefties.


19 posted on 12/24/2009 9:17:27 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Publius6961
Why don't they just raise taxes?

In an effort to prop up their fat government salaries, their bloated government benefits and their opulent lottery style government retirement benefits, that will be forthcoming!

20 posted on 12/24/2009 9:18:38 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
All the Oklahoma people are over on the California threads laughing about their deficits and corrupt state government.

When they aren't laughing at Michigan.
21 posted on 12/24/2009 9:20:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

lol....


22 posted on 12/24/2009 9:20:31 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

On the wealthy, yes. Do you advocate higher deficits?

parsy, who dares to say it


23 posted on 12/24/2009 9:21:43 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: dragnet2

About a year back I mentioned that Michigan has always been an economic early warning state and was called an idiot.


24 posted on 12/24/2009 9:22:28 AM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: dragnet2

Bullshit....MSM (directed by Obama) tells us RECOVERY is going STRONG! Mui Stong! There’s not prolem here folks, just move along and keep voting for Democrats.


25 posted on 12/24/2009 9:22:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: dragnet2

Oklahoma politicians are no different from any others. When the money rolls in, they spend it like Ted Kennedy in a bar, expanding government and starting lots of new programs. Then, lo and behold, the party ends, and they start crying about not having enough revenue. Even with all the spending, they still didn’t fix the roads and bridges which are in horrible shape.

OKC just passed an extension of an extra penny of sales tax to fund a massive boondoggle called MAPS. It is someone’s fantasy idea of what dowtown OKC should be.

In the Tulsa area, voters finally stopped the dream of the local chamber of commerce types who wanted to build fake islands in the river and put condos, restaurants, etc. there.

Just as in every other town, city, and state, there is no end to the fantasies people dream up for spending other people’s money.

Why is it that nobody ever asks if the money should be spent in the first place? How did everyone get suckered into the notion that government can provide economic development? Until we somehow convince people that government should be limited and the private sector is the only real source of prosperity and progress, we will continue to be saddled with ever-increasing levels of taxation and spending.

Give me the red pen, and I’ll find plenty of spending to cut, and none of it will involve public safety.


26 posted on 12/24/2009 9:24:43 AM PST by Pining_4_TX
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To: dragnet2

Can’t Oklahoma borrow money from one of their Indian casinos?

But, seriously, Oklahoma ought to be in better shape than most since they found a way to dry up the illegal population. And they led the way in closing meth labs. Seems they’re better positioned to survive the onslaught of freeloaders and drains on society that other more “tolerant” states.

They need to look elsewhere to find out why their shortfall is happening.


27 posted on 12/24/2009 9:25:50 AM PST by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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To: parsifal

Tax and spend.

Soak the rich?

Really?


28 posted on 12/24/2009 9:27:12 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (2012: Repeal it all... All of it!)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Oklahoma politicians are no different from any others.

Some out here are smart enough to understand that government at all levels has become incompetent, corrupt and in many regions, has just morphed into outright criminal enterprises run by local insiders.

29 posted on 12/24/2009 9:30:42 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: pepperdog
Not surprising that my State is hurting...but I suspicion that some other States are cooking the books and are even worse off.

You can bet the rent on that suspicion

30 posted on 12/24/2009 9:35:52 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

In Oklahoma, not Arizona
What does it matter?


31 posted on 12/24/2009 9:37:24 AM PST by rogue yam
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That’s what happens when a Democrat Administration and Congress try to dry up domestic energy production and cut dollars to OK.

What the stupid Democrat Administration in OK didn’t mention is that we have a rainy fund that can be tapped with this type of economy that has over $600,000,000 in it right now and almost $700M which comes close to balancing the budget. Republicans only control three statewide seats on the Corporation Commission. All the rest belong to Democrats who run the State agencies. The Treasurer and Equalization Board had to certify the dire straights in order to tap into the rainy day fund which I didn’t see mentioned in the article.

Thanks Governor Henry for your poor leadership for 8 years as state agencies kept hiring and hiring. Gov Henry the Democrat Doofus was elected because of a Indy running. State Government has grown a lot. Henry keeps vetoing bills that would bring it in line. Republicans for the first time in history after 2008 control both houses of the legislature. Our Senate margin is so small that they cannot override Henry Vetos.

Mary Fallin will win the Governor’s seat and we should do well in most of the state races. Time to turn OK completely red at the state level as we have for President.


32 posted on 12/24/2009 9:38:10 AM PST by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Rick Perry - TX Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 !)
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To: dragnet2
Bingo.

We really, really, really need to get to a place where people understand that government is a bad thing. It really is. We ought to expect very little from our government. Border control, national defense, a court system. That's it. It should take about 4% of GNP.

Anything more simply invites corruption.

33 posted on 12/24/2009 9:40:12 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: dragnet2

As an Okie (1956-1995), this sounds awful. Probably even more serious
than the oil bust of (IIRC) 1982.

The state is conservative, but somebody let things get out of hand.


34 posted on 12/24/2009 9:40:26 AM PST by VOA
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To: NormsRevenge
Arizona? Oklahoma, Nevada, Floriduh?

How kin this be happnin Norm? They told me this was all about Californicatin and Hollywood librawls..

35 posted on 12/24/2009 9:41:20 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: parsifal
We're always happy to get financial advice from Arkansas.

Arkansas was the only state to default on their bonds during the Great Depression. The Federal Government ran the state for two years.

I think it was a penal colony.


Martial, who ain't never done nuthin' bad enough to be sentenced to Arkansas.

36 posted on 12/24/2009 9:41:59 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: dragnet2
Well I never been to heaven

But I been to Oklahoma

37 posted on 12/24/2009 9:42:36 AM PST by Osage Orange (“Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Anyone Who Threatens It”)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Ignore Parsifal. He’s a left-wing troll and a jerk on top of it. He should’ve been kicked off a long time ago, but he is entertaining in an annoying way. That’s probably why he’s allowed to stay.


38 posted on 12/24/2009 9:46:58 AM PST by conservativebuckeye
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To: dragnet2

And this is just a flat out falsehood. California at 40 plus BILLION as a deficit far exceeds every other state. 12% unemployment in this state is record. AND the legislature is comprised of those like Pelosi and Boxer who continue to spend NO MATTER WHAT. Bleeech


39 posted on 12/24/2009 9:47:15 AM PST by the long march
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Wow! I didn’t know that. My respect for my state (for 3 more days) just went up a notch.

parsy, who will be back in Arkansas in about 2 years (or hopefully less)


40 posted on 12/24/2009 9:48:01 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

Nobody from Arkansas has the right to make fun of anybody from Oklahoma. My relatives were smart enough to get out during the Taft administration.


41 posted on 12/24/2009 9:48:34 AM PST by conservativebuckeye
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To: conservativebuckeye

A jerk? Yes. Entertaining? I hope so. Left wing? Nope.

parsy, the progressive conservative


42 posted on 12/24/2009 9:49:25 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: conservativebuckeye

Whew, I’m sure glad you didn’t see what I posted over on the “Oklahoma is Broke” thread.

parsy, the sensitive


43 posted on 12/24/2009 9:50:39 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: the long march

LOL!!

“””Oklahoma Has Biggest Deficit Among States”””


44 posted on 12/24/2009 9:51:23 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: parsifal

What you advocate violates the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.


45 posted on 12/24/2009 9:51:42 AM PST by conservativebuckeye
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To: conservativebuckeye

Oooopps! This is the thread.

parsy, who is running for cover


46 posted on 12/24/2009 9:51:59 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: dragnet2

Don’t know about the others, but in Arizona it is happening because we’re coming away from six years of Big Sis Napolitano’s governorship. She spent like a drunk freshman with daddy’s credit card and now the state legislature is in gridlock trying to cut the budget. She screwed AZ over like a lesbian with a big rubber toy before she left for Obama’s pastures.


47 posted on 12/24/2009 9:52:40 AM PST by ponygirl ("Actum est de republica." -"It is all over with the republic.")
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To: conservativebuckeye
Nobody from Arkansas has the right to make fun of anybody from Oklahoma.

Arkansas state motto: "At least we're not Louisiana"

48 posted on 12/24/2009 9:52:58 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: pepperdog

I suspicion that you suspicion correctly.


49 posted on 12/24/2009 9:53:10 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: parsifal
My respect for my state (for 3 more days) just went up a notch

Congratulations! You got your parole!

Martial, who says the only reason Arkansas is a state is 'cause they got tired of cutting Arkansas shaped holes out of maps of the USA.

50 posted on 12/24/2009 9:54:36 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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