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Christmas Eve Massacre: Salvation Army major shot dead in front of 3 children
Arkansas Democrat Gazette (subscription required) ^ | 24 DEC 09 | Chad Day

Posted on 12/24/2009 10:38:09 PM PST by DCBryan1

Salvation Army major shot dead in front of 3 children

By The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

A Salvation Army major was fatally shot in front of his three children Thursday afternoon as he walked into the the organization's community center in North Little Rock, authorities said.

Around 4 p.m., two black men dressed in black approached Philip Wise, 40, of Maumelle outside the community center at 1505 W. 18th St., Pulaski County Coroner Garland Camper said.

Wise’ children — ages 4, 6, and 8 — were walking with him when the men came up to them, police said. His wife, Cindy, also a major in the Salvation Army, was inside the center at the time and called 911.

One of the men pulled a gun, demanded money and then shot Wise, police said.

Police ask that anyone with information contact them at 758-1234.

Read tomorrow's Arkansas Democrat-Gazette for full details.

This article was published December 24, 2009 at 8:34 p.m.

Chad Day of the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette contributed to this article.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Arkansas
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UNBELIEVABLE saddness for Little Rock and this man's family.
1 posted on 12/24/2009 10:38:12 PM PST by DCBryan1
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To: DCBryan1

Evil. Pure evil.


2 posted on 12/24/2009 10:39:08 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Salvation Army Major = preacher.


3 posted on 12/24/2009 10:40:10 PM PST by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: DCBryan1
What the h@ll.... couldn't they rob some drug dealers or something? Why rob someone trying to help people? Low lifes.
4 posted on 12/24/2009 10:42:11 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: DCBryan1

An inconceivable crime. So very sad and totally senseless. I pray they find the perps.


5 posted on 12/24/2009 10:43:29 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: DCBryan1

I’m just amazed that they mentioned that the shooters were black.


6 posted on 12/24/2009 10:44:27 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: DCBryan1

Well aware of that - I pass the local Citadel every few days.


7 posted on 12/24/2009 10:45:34 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: DCBryan1

IIRC, Salvation Army officers are their clergy. I hope Arkansas has the death penalty.


8 posted on 12/24/2009 10:46:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: Earthdweller
just some brothers getting theirs... getting their money from the "man"... maybe they can come over and drink some beer with the victims wife and the Prez.
9 posted on 12/24/2009 10:46:58 PM PST by erman
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To: NurdlyPeon
I’m just amazed that they mentioned that the shooters were black.

The political correctness editor has to work overtime this time of year making sure the Christmas stories are properly sanitised, so this one slipped through the cracks.

10 posted on 12/24/2009 10:47:26 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: NurdlyPeon

Clinton voters, no doubt.


11 posted on 12/24/2009 10:50:32 PM PST by ToTheMax
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To: DCBryan1
UPDATE: North Little Rock police are searching for two black suspects. Police say they are in their late teens to early twenties and were dressed in all black.

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=96541&catid=2

12 posted on 12/24/2009 10:51:13 PM PST by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: DCBryan1

Let’s not jump to conclusions about this being a hate crime. sarc/


13 posted on 12/24/2009 10:51:26 PM PST by skimask
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To: DCBryan1

World is insane ......dang.


14 posted on 12/24/2009 10:53:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: EDINVA

Two El Salvadorean immigrants just got life sentences for brutally killing an 83 year old woman/friend in Maryland.

Life is the best that the marxist state of Maryland, run by a little marxist shit named “O’Malley” can do for brutal killers.

Now that cash-strapped cesspool will have to house, feed and clothe these bastards for the rest of their lives.

Here in Virginia, these guys would be toast by now.

“Yes, Virginia, there is a difference” between us and that craphole down the road.


15 posted on 12/24/2009 10:53:38 PM PST by ToTheMax
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To: NurdlyPeon
I’m just amazed that they mentioned that the shooters were black.

the victim

not a "hate" crime. Just a "kinda don't like" crime.

Thank God the man didn't carry a weapon. You could just imagine the outrage if the victim had shot one of the black perps.

No, I guess it's best to leave the savages and assume that any mission into areas like North Little Rock are suicide missions. That any mission you can come back alive from is a cause to celebrate.

Now if they only had tighter gun control, this would have NEVER happened. /sarc

16 posted on 12/24/2009 10:55:46 PM PST by erman
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To: Earthdweller
What the h@ll.... couldn't they rob some drug dealers or something?

NO...absolutely NOT! There is no excuse for usng violence against another person unless it's for the purpose of self-defense. PERIOD.

17 posted on 12/24/2009 10:56:02 PM PST by ChrisInAR ("You gotta let it out, Captain!")
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To: DCBryan1
Noting the unreliability of the judicial system as an effective determinant between "guilty" and "innocent" I am not a big fan of capital punishment, but...

...not going to quibble over this one, so long as they nab the real perps.

I'll even say "Hang them. The slow way." Give them a little extra time to think about the God in front of whose judgment throne they will shortly be standing.

There is always the possibility of repentance.

18 posted on 12/24/2009 10:59:16 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last.)
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To: DCBryan1

I think I saw these two guys in my toilet.


19 posted on 12/24/2009 11:00:04 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: DCBryan1

Just a couple of aspiring rap artists looking to get paid.


20 posted on 12/24/2009 11:01:03 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: ChrisInAR
Whatever...I was being sarcastic with outrage. Why rob someone who is trying to help people? It's insane.
21 posted on 12/24/2009 11:05:22 PM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......?)
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To: NurdlyPeon
Yeah, that is odd. Look for the AG holder to levy hate crime charges against the author and paper.

Prayers for the Preacher and his loved ones.

22 posted on 12/24/2009 11:05:29 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: DCBryan1

The thugs should be tried, convicted and executed.

Not just for murder.
But for being so INCREDIBLY STUPID that they don’t deserve to live!!!

How much cash do they think a Salvation Army member carries?
These two are Idiots!!!
As well as Evil.


23 posted on 12/24/2009 11:06:53 PM PST by VOA
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To: ToTheMax

That’s because liberals value the lives of criminals while devaluing the lives of innocents.


24 posted on 12/24/2009 11:09:43 PM PST by Jagdgewehr (The GOP faithful want me to believe I have only two voting options......"bad" and "worse")
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To: VOA

It will be interesting to see follow-up reports.
After reflecting on my rant about the stupidity of holding up an
SA member for money...it will be interesting to see if this SA fellow
was bringing in donation money from the SA kettles in the area.

Hopefully, this means the thugs hung around and follwed him some
before the deadly encounter...maybe this increases the likelihood
of finding witnesses.
(Dear Lord, I do hope they have the courage to “snitch” on these thugs.)


25 posted on 12/24/2009 11:10:25 PM PST by VOA
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To: All

I hope they hang the sobs.


26 posted on 12/24/2009 11:12:28 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: DCBryan1; erman; Texas Termite; .30Carbine; 68 grunt; 8mmMauser; admiralsn; Aggie Mama; al_c; ...
Logan's Prayer Warriors...PLEASE pray for this man's family...

The horror and evil of this is beyond words.

Philip Wise, the Pastor who was murdered tonight...


27 posted on 12/24/2009 11:13:41 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: DCBryan1

In what way?


28 posted on 12/24/2009 11:13:47 PM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: DCBryan1
More racial harmony from Obama and Jeremiah (God D*mn America! US of KKKA! Land of the Greed and Home of the Slave) Wright.

Obama represents the permanent end of the race card as an end to argument.

Prayers up for the widow & orphans.

29 posted on 12/24/2009 11:17:11 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Earthdweller

“What the h@ll.... couldn’t they rob some drug dealers or something?”

Why would they rob a drug dealer, who is likely to be armed? Much safer to go after someone who is likely to be unarmed and defenseless.


30 posted on 12/24/2009 11:17:11 PM PST by MikeNJ
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To: DCBryan1

My heart breaks.

I do not want to share ANYTHING (the country, our taxes, the AIR) with monsters that would do this to someone, especially someone who would have helped these creatures.


31 posted on 12/24/2009 11:20:29 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: DCBryan1

Police say Wise took two bell ringers home and then returned to the Salvation Army with his three young children. Officers say two armed men approached Wise at the back door and demanded money. They say they then shot Wise at least once. He died at the scene.

Police are not saying if money was taken.

Wise’s three children witnessed the shooting. Their ages are 4, 6, and 8. His wife was inside and reportedly called 911.

North Little Rock police are searching for two black suspects. Police say they are in their late teens to early twenties and were dressed in all black.

Police say Wise had been with the Salvation Army for 16 years. For the last three years he has managed the Salvation Army chapters in Sherwood, North Little Rock, and Maumelle.

The Salvation Army is planning a press conference for Friday at 11 a.m. We will be sure to bring you the latest details on this story Friday on Today’s THV and right here on todaysthv.com. Officers with the Salvation Army plan to speak about Wise and his many years of service.

http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=96541&catid=2


32 posted on 12/24/2009 11:21:01 PM PST by kcvl
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To: DCBryan1
My headline:

Two Obama supporters forced to defend themselves against Right Wing White Militia Member. Film at 11...

I'm sure restrictive gun control laws and lenient sentencing guidelines would have prevented this crime.

I hope these two scumbags are brought to justice. My version of justice of course involves a police issue Glock being fired in the direction of their mush filled skulls.

33 posted on 12/24/2009 11:22:04 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Election 2010. No RATS, No RINOS...)
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To: DCBryan1

These thugs have no soul. Haven’t several Salvation Army kettles been stolen this year also? Satan is on a ramage folks.


34 posted on 12/24/2009 11:22:48 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Dawgreg

rampage


35 posted on 12/24/2009 11:23:35 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: DCBryan1

I’ve burst into tears reading this.


36 posted on 12/24/2009 11:24:13 PM PST by onyx
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To: Yaelle

Unfortunately, They’ll someday find themselves in ER with gunshot wounds, and they’ll need their FREE Obamacare subsidized by US. Obama’s dream America is upon us.


37 posted on 12/24/2009 11:25:19 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: DCBryan1; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.

38 posted on 12/24/2009 11:26:04 PM PST by narses ('in an odd way this is cheering news!'.)
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To: DCBryan1

A Pulaski County coroner said Wise was pronounced dead at the scene.

Maj. Cindy Wise, the man’s wife who also is a Salvation Army officer, was in the center and witnessed the shooting and called 911, telling police her husband had just dropped off bell-ringers from collecting money for the needy. She said her family was walking into the center at 18th and Main from a van used to pick up the bell-ringers from locations around the city.

Police said one of the two men, both of whom reportedly appeared to be in their teens or early 20s, pulled a gun, demanded money and then shot Wise

Wise, a native of Maryland, attended Salvation Army training from 1992 to 1994 in Atlanta. The Web site documenting his attendance quotes Ephesians 6:12: “We doth not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”

Just last week, a Salvation Army kettle was stolen in a robbery at the Wal-Mart Supercenter in Sherwood, just a few miles north of where the shooting occurred Thursday.

http://arkansasnews.com/2009/12/24/salvation-army-major-gunned-down-on-christmas-eve-in-north-little-rock/


39 posted on 12/24/2009 11:26:30 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Brad's Gramma

Prayer bump


40 posted on 12/24/2009 11:27:36 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: amom; MarMema; 21twelve

Unspeakable murder in Little Rock, Arkansas.


41 posted on 12/24/2009 11:27:57 PM PST by onyx
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To: kcvl

Well, in that article, their race is omitted.


42 posted on 12/24/2009 11:29:48 PM PST by onyx
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To: onyx
Ephesians 6:12: “We doth not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
Referring to Obama and his henchmen in Congress.
43 posted on 12/24/2009 11:34:01 PM PST by historyrepeatz
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To: Tribune7

Prayers up for those poor children and his wife who will NEVER have another peaceful Christmas.


44 posted on 12/24/2009 11:35:13 PM PST by DCBryan1 (The first Civil War freed slaves from individuals. CW2 will free slaves from the government.)
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To: Yaelle
especially someone who would have helped these creatures.

Who had probably helped someone related to or knew them.

There is absolutely nothing anyone can do to change these creatures, nothing. And, frankly, I'm sick of trying! I'm sick of tax dollars being spent to feed & cloth them.

Maybe Obama should use his big mouth to condemn these kinds of people and leave the rest of us alone. But, instead his justice dept. turns a blind eye (like the Black Panther thugs at the polls) instead.

45 posted on 12/24/2009 11:36:13 PM PST by kcvl
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To: naturalman1975

I wonder if they were Amish converts?


46 posted on 12/24/2009 11:38:26 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: onyx
We don't want to hurt their feelings by naming their race. It might stigmatize them or something. /s

They are just young misguided mamma boys who wouldn't hurt a flea. /s Heck, mamma probably isn't much older than they are just living off the dole like she was taught. I bet they don't know daddy either.

Nothing here a few more food stamps and a better taxpayer funded apartment wouldn't fix. /s

I think we can fairly say, 'Houston, we have a problem'!

47 posted on 12/24/2009 11:42:58 PM PST by kcvl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t know if they do, but Curtis Lavelle Vance only got life for the murder of Anne Pressly, the reporter who’s face was crushed and she was further beaten and raped.


48 posted on 12/24/2009 11:44:28 PM PST by papasmurf (You betcha!)
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To: skimask

Obamas new civilian force at work....


49 posted on 12/24/2009 11:49:59 PM PST by himno hero
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To: kcvl

I’m just sick about this and awfully angry as well.
Were it not Christmas, I’d be swearing. This is sickening.
His family will never have a joyful Christmas. The dear man was doing good works. Charity for others.

Damn those thugs. I don’t care how young they are, they need to be executed, so they’re never paroled, like Clemmons.


50 posted on 12/24/2009 11:50:08 PM PST by onyx
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