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self | 12/25/09 | crz

Posted on 12/25/2009 4:55:40 AM PST by crz

Does your state allow for a recall election?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: eletions; recall
There are about 19 states that allow for recall elections. Most of them are states that have DEMOCRAT senators. Point is, I hear lots of people asking, "What can we do?" Well..find out if your state allows for the recall of elected officials and start the petition of senators recalling them for special elections. Kick them out. Plain and simple. I do not have the list and someone called into the Bill Bennet show yesterday with the site that had the list. I did not have a piece of paper to write it down so I missed the name of the web site. Anyone?
1 posted on 12/25/2009 4:55:40 AM PST by crz
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To: crz

I know Nevada is one of them so lets start there.


2 posted on 12/25/2009 4:57:56 AM PST by when the time is right
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To: crz

http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

here’s some info;)


3 posted on 12/25/2009 4:58:55 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin.A website or a phone campaign are good ways to get your petition going. Going door-to-door is also an option although it is more time consuming than the other two. This is important since you only have a set number of days to obtain the correct number of signatures-anywhere from 30 to 180 days.You will be fighting an uphill battle to recall a U.S. Senator. No member of Congress has ever been recalled in the history of the United States


4 posted on 12/25/2009 4:59:54 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: crz

Nothing in the Constitution allows a state to recall a Congressman or Senator. Any recall clauses in state constitutions are for local offices only.


5 posted on 12/25/2009 5:00:41 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: crz

In Michigan, the recall law does not apply to federal offices.


6 posted on 12/25/2009 5:01:40 AM PST by MacombBob
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To: Non-Sequitur

NS,
even on Christmas morning we must be vigilant against the wayward efforts of amateur poliitical theorists.


7 posted on 12/25/2009 5:18:12 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: MacombBob

“In Michigan, the recall law does not apply to federal offices.”

Nor does any other state.


8 posted on 12/25/2009 5:25:14 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: crz
The United States Constitution expressly establishes the exclusive qualifications for congressional office, sets the specific length of terms for Members of the House and for Senators, and places the authority within each House of Congress to judge the elections and qualifications of, and to discipline and remove, its own Members. These provisions of the United States Constitution, with respect to federal officials, have supremacy over State laws and provisions, and State laws in conflict with such constitutional provisions have been found by the courts in the past to be invalid. Although the language of some State recall laws might be broad enough to include Members of Congress, or might even explicitly include such federal officers, such statutes would not appear to be effective in overriding the provisions of the United States Constitution with regard to terms of office, elections and removal of Members.
9 posted on 12/25/2009 5:25:46 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: crz

The U.S. Constitution doesn’t permit it, sorry.


10 posted on 12/25/2009 5:30:00 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: crz
This will be a short thread, LOL.

Leni

11 posted on 12/25/2009 5:31:50 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: fieldmarshaldj

this country doesn’t follow the Constitution anyways...


12 posted on 12/25/2009 5:32:01 AM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: stefanbatory

Well, yeah, but still...


13 posted on 12/25/2009 5:32:58 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: stefanbatory
Sure it follows the Constitution. You see a postal truck parked in a no-parking zone please to observe that it will never get a ticket, and if it does, the ticket will never be paid, nor can a collection effort be made.

Same with weights and measures folks. There used to be some problems in Ohio with the state weights and measures organization ~ they actually tried to force entry into post offices to verify the accuracy of the scales.

As I recall notices were sent to them that "one more time and you will be arrested and held pending trial in a federal court" ~ I suppose if they'd gotten real uppity we could have ordered that they be shot!

14 posted on 12/25/2009 6:06:46 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: when the time is right; MamaDearest; NorwegianViking; freekitty; Piquaboy; sheik yerbouty; ...

We The People had war declared on us by enemies of Freedom in “our” government. In my opinion, these arrogant, in-your-face dictators just voted and approved an American Holocaust. How many Americans will die because Big Brother denied or rationed their medical care or shipped them off to Government Hospice Centers (the Democrat camps)? This American Holocaust was designed by Rahm Kapo and his brother, Mengele II with the approval of their bosses, the Muslim Dictator and Heir Reid and Heir Pelsoi and their gaggle of arrogant, in-your-face Benedict Arnolds.

Organize and immediately start Recall petitions for each of these vermin (even if you don’t have means of recall), picket their offices, gather outside their local offices with signs denouncing their treason, conduct marches in their districts to awaken the clueless, investigate and expose any and all of their corruption, organize daily letters to the Editor in your newspapers (local and state), start a campaign against them immediately and find a conservative candidate (with guts and a spine) to run against each of these traitors.. Recruit retired veterans and retired patriots to mount this campaign immediately. Write and film YouTube videos to expose them and flood the Internet.


15 posted on 12/25/2009 6:15:33 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Whether or not they can be recalled, the process can send a very loud message especially if the recall petition has a significant number of signers. To win a war requires overwhelming force, every weapon should be used. Often psychological weapons can substantially weaken the enemy, so go for it, never start thinking you cannot win.
16 posted on 12/25/2009 6:16:38 AM PST by PoloSec (Paul: 2Tim2:7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.)
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To: PoloSec

Oh, I understand, but this is really a wasted effort (with respect to Senators), because it’s quite clearly unconstitutional. Sure, the Constitution is flagrantly violated at will by those in power to cause harm to the people, but it will surely be used to protect them. If you do wish to accomplish something that will yield results, start a movement for a Constitutional Amendment to make a recall possible. Personally, I’m leaning more towards for shortening Senate terms. 6 years has only served the purpose of reducing their accountability. Maybe they should run every two years in order to change the equation. That might very well result in a higher turnover.


17 posted on 12/25/2009 6:47:08 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"start a movement for a Constitutional Amendment to make a recall possible." That and term limits
18 posted on 12/25/2009 7:01:44 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Ya can’t recall a house member. You have to vote them out.


19 posted on 12/25/2009 7:02:28 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Charlespg

And for term limits to be truly effective, you have to get rid of Civil Service, which is protection for liberal gov’t employee parasites.


20 posted on 12/25/2009 7:06:41 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: 70th Division
Ya can’t recall a house member. You have to vote them out.

DO IT!

21 posted on 12/25/2009 7:07:54 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Don Corleone

Believe me I will be working against Mark Schower in the next cycle. Tim Walburg is my man. I will work for him.


22 posted on 12/25/2009 7:23:54 AM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; pookie18

Hey folks, good to see you out early this Christmas morning.

Merry Christmas to you. I’ll be checking out your posts later today.


23 posted on 12/25/2009 7:30:18 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Well...semi-early ;-) Merry Christmas!


24 posted on 12/25/2009 7:37:52 AM PST by pookie18 (Palin/Cheney '12)
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To: pookie18

I was early for me. Yawn... (rubs eyes, head jerks, momentarily fighting off sleep)

Maud, where’s that alka-seltzer?


25 posted on 12/25/2009 7:45:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will become citizens.)
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To: 70th Division; 2ndDivisionVet; celtic gal; freekitty; oswegodeee; exit82; Texas Fossil; ...

Even so, the effort will show how livid we are. Not wasted if these traitors realize We The People want them OUT of OUR government as punishment for their crimes of treason. These vermin choose to ignore us and pretend we will be mollified by their propaganda and the BS the MSM is spewing hourly. They have to get our message “We Aren’t Going Away; They ARE! May the stigma of TRAITOR be attached to their name for eternity. Add their family to that stigma as well.

Having the last name of Hitler must be hell for anyone in Germany. Being known that you’re related to Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, Chris Dodd, Jack Murtha, has to become synonymous with TREASON.


26 posted on 12/25/2009 8:21:38 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

BUMP!


27 posted on 12/25/2009 9:45:57 AM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , truth (.Member NRA))
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To: ExTexasRedhead

We have a lot of house cleaning to do next year.

Merry Christmas.


28 posted on 12/25/2009 10:35:02 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: crz

Those states only apply to state and local elections.

I know that California (where I used to live) has it.


29 posted on 12/25/2009 10:35:52 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Just keep pounding them.


30 posted on 12/25/2009 10:52:57 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: when the time is right; Las Vegas Ron; Shellybenoit; ExTexasRedhead; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; ...
I know Nevada is one of them so let's start there.

I'm not against Reid facing a recall election, but he'll be on his way out by this time next year, anyway, if current trends prevail. The question is in the timing: Can a recall election be set up in Nevada before next November?

31 posted on 12/25/2009 1:35:18 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Red_Devil 232; Red Steel; AJFavish; David; GreatOne; MplsSteve; ml/nj; Shellybenoit; ...

What you say is true, but only up to a point. There are certain aspects of the process by which US Senators and Representatives are selected that are governed by state law. For example, some states require a run-off election for a House or Senate seat if no candidate in the general election gets more than 50 percent of the vote, most don’t; some states allow for open primary elections, while others have closed primaries or perhaps no primaries at all; there are different ballot recounting mechanisms in each state; there are different requirements for getting a candidate on the ballot for these federal elections in each state; and so on and so forth. I don’t think the issue of whether or not a federal legislator can be recalled pursuant to state law has ever been adjudicated by any court whatsoever, so it will remain in limbo for now.


32 posted on 12/25/2009 2:41:24 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
You argument is for the election of US Senators and Representavies. Once they are elected and judged and found qualified by their respective Houses then the only way to remove them is through the procedures of each House.

Although the Supreme Court has not needed to directly address the subject of recall of Members of Congress, other Supreme Court decisions, as well as the weight of other judicial and administrative decisions, rulings and opinions, indicate that the right to remove a Member of Congress before the expiration of his or her constitutionally established term of office is one which resides exclusively in each House of Congress as established in the expulsion clause of the United States Constitution.

33 posted on 12/25/2009 2:57:47 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: justiceseeker93

“I don’t think the issue of whether or not a federal legislator can be recalled pursuant to state law has ever been adjudicated by any court whatsoever”

I can’t find an example either.


34 posted on 12/26/2009 4:20:52 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: justiceseeker93

Are they not the representative of the individual State?

So now..if true, then should we not have another 10th amendment issue.

Another way to go at them is to call a STATE grand jury. It should in no doubt work in a state like NEB.


35 posted on 12/26/2009 8:21:59 AM PST by crz
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Look at Frank Church.

McCain and Kyl have both signed pledges to abide by the voters' wishes should they be recalled.

36 posted on 12/26/2009 8:32:21 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

v There must be a reason why nobody has tried it.


37 posted on 12/26/2009 10:38:32 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

I remember Church. He was an outright communist.


38 posted on 12/26/2009 10:39:15 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Republicans attempted to recall Church. The courts shot it down from the get-go.


39 posted on 12/26/2009 3:35:59 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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