Skip to comments.EDITORIAL: The war on Christmas escalates
Posted on 12/25/2009 9:43:36 PM PST by R4Roger05
Mariah Jordat, 8, was reading her Bible during quiet time at Madison Park Elementary School in Oldbridge, N.J., when her teacher told her to put the book away. Mariah put her Bible under her desk, but that wasn't away enough. The teacher banished the book to the student's backpack. The persecution hurt her feelings and confused her, said Michelle Jordat, the little girl's mother. "Why would my teacher say that I can't read the Bible when I'm not bothering anybody else?"
It's ridiculous for a school to forbid a child, let alone one at such an impressionable age, to read the Bible during her free time, as the principal now admits. The school's mission statement says it wants to develop a child's uniqueness - an effort that can't likely be achieved by squelching her reading interests. If anything, Mariah ought to be applauded for the extraordinary maturity she probably has for someone of such a tender age, but in too many places, it would be more likely that she would be forced into remedial "diversity" training.
Little Mariah isn't alone. Earlier this month, a Massachusetts second-grader was suspended after drawing what his school said was a "violent" picture of Jesus Christ on the cross. Before he was permitted to return to the classroom, the boy had to undergo a psychiatric evaluation at his family's expense.
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When you forsake your children to the Churches of Atheism, you have no grounds to be upset when the priesthoods’ behavior comports their creed.
What pisses me off is that the libs would never do this to some muslim kid.
If the child was reading the quran, liberal lawyers would be lined up defending the child’s freedom of religion.
Liberal teachers (meaning most of them) LOVE to do this...they LOVE to violate the constitution and call it constitutional because it fits their world view. Now, I will admit a few may not know the difference but most KNOW that this activity by a child in school IS LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED which makes them, the teachers, either a LIAR or stupid or both...I go with the last one.
NOT only that....but these mental midgits probably don’t know that education STARTED with the reading of the BIBLE!
Absolutely...Thomas Jefferson himself paid FEDERAL MONIES to get said Bibles into schools. The person that the left loves to falsely claim gave us today's separation of church and state (ref: Danbury Letter) used money from the Federal Budget to get the Bible into school and wanted it TAUGHT for purposes of morality and more.
Exactly right. Of course, though, Thomas Jefferson separated the morality of The Bible from the religious aspect...and I doubt many students would be reading The Bible if it weren't for their religion.
Schools supposedly are all about “reading”... they bribe kids to read with all sorts of programs and incentives. But OH NO - the reading must be from their list - you know the list much like the pervert “Safe Schools Czar” endorses that encourages “diversity” and an appreciation for our differences...
Not some antiquated old book of myths that criticizes abhorrent lifestyles as SIN... can’t possibly have a young impressionable (ie - brainwashable) mind tainted with such things... they might actually gain a real moral keel and hurt the cause of rampant immoral and socialist teaching in that school.
Yet another one of the many reasons we homeschool.
You’d be screaming bloody murder if President Bush had initiated a plan to do just that.
War on Christianity, just like the Communists waged after they got power.
I wonder when schools will forbid children to make “snow angels”?
Where are the conservative lawyers who should be defending these children and getting expense-reimbursements for their parents? They need to sue the teacher, the principle, the School Board and the whole school system.
Make them pay and apologize or take them to the cleaners. This is a First Amendment issue. Don’t expect the national ACLU to give a damn. It didn’t involve a Quran.
You can’t understand or appreciate English or American literature without at least a basic knowledge of the Bible. Lord of the Flies, Catcher in the rye, Huckleberry Finn, ad infinitum. They all have religious allegories and symbolism. Heck you need it to understand The Davinci Code.
Has it been established that her teacher is an atheist?
I go with stupid, too. The Bible is a book, not a weapon. I’m an atheist but I have the right to read any book I want and so does any child.
It's not just ridiculous, it's a direct violation of the girl's Constitutional rights!
Why do courts so blindly ignore the second part of the establishment clause?
"...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
The teacher should be fired, sued and jailed.
No doubt...and liberals luuuuuuuuuuuv that! We can see it when they get involved in such cases as the child whose mom and dad are in a custody battle for her and what she will or will not be taught re: going to a Baptist Church. The evil thing in the whole case, or, the insidious monster they are working to feed and grow is establishing PRECEDENT of the case to start the process of RESTRICTING a parent from forcing a child to church...especially those CHRISTIAN ones. They could care less about the girl or her parents. They will look the other way at terrorism school and other religions but battle ONLY against Christendom.
I was agreeing that Thomas Jefferson admired the morality from The Bible, as displayed in the teachings of Jesus. I actually did not mean to include the spurious claim that Thomas Jefferson authorized federal funding for the Bible in school. That is made up.
"The first stage of this education being the schools of the hundreds wherein the great mass of the people will receive their instruction, the principal foundations of future order will be laid here. Instead therefore of putting the Bible and Testament into the hands of the children at an age when their judgments are not sufficiently matured for religious inquiries, their memories may here be stored with the most useful facts from Grecian, Roman, European, and American history. The first elements of morality too maybe instilled into their minds; such as, when further developed as their judgments advance in strength, may teach them how to work out their own greatest happiness by showing them that it does not depend on the condition of life in which chance has placed them, but is always the result of a good conscience, good health, occupation, and freedom in all just pursuits."(Click the snippet to read more of this 1801 edition online...)--Thomas Jefferson
Notes on the state of Virginia.
So, like Thomas Jefferson, I would not support a Federal education program in public schools, especially consisting of The Bible, whether coming from George W. Bush, Barack Hussein Obama, or anyone else.
The "churches of atheism" being the government schools.
Liberals have realized that establishing judicial and cultural precedents is one of their most effective ways to effect changes in America. Unless Americans pay attention and defend their Constitutional protections, those safeguards won't be there to protect them.
They will look the other way at terrorism school and other religions but battle ONLY against Christendom.
Religions should not be handled differently, but that assertion is weakened by those who cry out for different treatment of, for example, Muslims.
The "liberal lawyers" would be those at the atheist ACLU. Their primary target is Christianity, of course, and so it would only make sense for them to relentlessly "defend" non-Christian religions out of a perverted belief that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
I’m glad the principal realized the move was in error. That he would recognize a free-exercise infringement is surprising.
...and Mele Kalikimaka!
“school administrators approved the father’s request to transfer the child to another school.” Here in lies the problem. The father (parents) should have taken an ultra aggressive stance since they had no need in any manner to “request” a transfer. Daddy had no balls when he went before the administrators since he appears to have forgotten HE is their boss and they are just hired help in educating HIS child. I have found once you make the administrators well aware of that they tend to wither and see things in a different light and this especially true near election time for the school board. One just has to not be afraid of them because if they feel you can be intimidated they will jerk you around.
"They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work." - Titus 1:16
Then you may deposit your children into public schools to learn animalism and geolatry, while I will keep my children and teach them the doctrine of Christ, and then we shall let the Lord judge who is the atheist and who is His disciple.
Considering more Bibles have been sold and published than any other book, how could one consider themselves well educated if they haven’t read through it? Accordingly, how can an educator sincerely have interest in the well being of a student if they forbid such from being read?
Interestingly, if the teacher sincerely thinks such action is less discriminatory and promoting of rational thinking, acting as though reading the Bible as an opiate for the masses, the action probably only enticed the child to spend more time reading the Bible at every opportunity away from class.
In regards to the Massachusetts case, its amazing the same area where Jonathan Edwards now takes this position. Kid should have pulled out Edwards’ “Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God” sermon and chalked it up to studying State History.
Why should it piss you off?
It should piss them off!
The triumph of cowardice over principle and commitment is obvious to any human being over the age of 10.
I chuckle every time I hear of muslim whining over how mean the American people are to poor muslim wannabe mass murderers and their enablers...
And for some other fun bits of info...
This is near Jon Bon Jovi's childhood home and the site of a WWI disaster--three days of fire and explosions destroying the T.A. Gillespie Co. shell-loading (munitions) yard--and heroism--Coast-Guardsmen responded to the need, fought the fire, saved lives, repaired a rail track, and took a train of TNT out through the flames. Twelve received the Navy Cross, two of whom had been killed during the incident.
This had been our largest ammo plant, and enough munitions to supply the Western Front for six months were lost. To this day, caution is required in the area, as explosives are still scattered around (in the 90s and even two years ago, munitions were found in schoolyards). Buildings 50 miles away were shaken and the explosives rained down over a mile away--300 buildings were destroyed. About 100 (some say 85, some say 100+) civilians were killed, and right near this school is a mass grave of the remains of 14 to 18 (IIRC, the monument says 17) unidentified workers.
And today, few know of this...as is the case with the influenza that came through and killed hundreds more--many more than the ammo plant explosion--in the area soon thereafter.
Even Jon Bon Jovi and some of the other notables from the area are more well-known.
heh...they're all out of cross-shaped "G" characters.
I hate these stories. Seriously why isn’t she studying her class work? That is what quiet time is for. If you don’t like it, go to Catholic School (I did 12 years) where you will have one full hour to study religion. Why did she not pull out her math book instead? Spoiled brat perhaps? I will be blasted but that is because FREEPERS do not look at reality of the story and only about the emotion.
Where are the conservative lawyers who should be defending these children and getting expense-reimbursements for their parents?
Because they are smart enough to know that the case would be a loser. In study period, you study the classes you take at school! What is so wrong with this concept? Study Hall at least when I was in school was for text books only.
Well said - and an inspiration to action to boot!
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I think the best defense teachers and schools like this have is to NOT teach kids to read in the first place!!
Get a Koran book cover for your Bible!!
I might agree with you if this period was in fact a study period. But it was not. Here is what the Superintendent of schoos said: "The youngster didn't do anything wrong,'' said Superintendent of Schools Dr. Simon M. Bosco. "It's fine to bring a Bible to school as long as you're reading it when you have private, individual, independent reading." So argue with him.
I wish your kids all the best. They’ll need it.
Maybe it was a time to read what you wished? If it’s “quiet time” aren’t kids allowed to do what they wish as long as they don’t disturb others?
The Christian bible shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a public institution. It should be especially frowned upon when it is in the possession of a young child within the school. It is filled with ideas that are against the revolution which would hinder indoctrination. It should therefore be banned from any public instituion since banning it would coincide with the separation of church and state.
Anyone who does not like that edict should put his tail between his legs and retire to his politically neutral church. If he chooses to have a politically active church then he should be ready for confiscatory taxation.
This is the same thing.
For seventy plus years the Communists have made a concerted effort to secretly and incrementally take over this country. The have almost accomplished that. Under Communism the Commandment, "Thou shall have no other God before me" relates to the Communist Party which in turn controls the state.
They have made a pact with the Muslims, since both have the same ends, world domination, and both use the same tactics, lies and stealth, to work together to that end. Read David Horowitz's Unholy Alliance for the details.
Favoring Muslims over Christians does two things - it gives impressionable kids the idea that Islam is superior and the only accepted religion and it sows discord among thinking adults. Discord is a common Communist tactic.
That is what feminism was about, that is what the agitation and support of black activists is about, that is what the homosexual agenda is about and all that together gives us the doctrines of political correctness, diversity, hate crimes and affirmative action.
With rampant discord the masses are inclined to turn to the government for a solution. That is what they want, government control. An observant person can easily see that all problems for which the government demands a solution are problems the government created in the first place.
With the knowledge of the Communists goals and their plans for achieving them all this nonsense makes perfect sense. Read Communist Goals and research The Frankfurt School for the details. Then read Saul Allinshy's Rules for Radicals for tactics and watch it all unfold before your eyes.
Keep in mind that Obama was mentored by the Communist Frank Marshall Davis at an early age. He called him Uncle Frank in his book. He was then taught and raised some more by Muslims. In the USA his closets associates were avowed Communists like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn and other Leftsits affiliations Like the Trinity Unite Church of Christ and the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.
I will not blast you for your opinion. However, It may be that she was already done with her school work and then in the free time she read her Bible. How dare you label her a spoiled brat without having all of the facts.
Thanks for the post. I had to go back and read my post to see what I said. Looking at my post, I put spoiled brat perhaps. That is a question that could be a possibility. I certainly did not call her a spoiled brat. Have a good one.