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passenger: Sharp-dressed man aided terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab onto plane without pass
mlive.com ^ | 12/26/09 | Sheena Harrison

Posted on 12/26/2009 11:55:38 AM PST by American Dream 246

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To: American Dream 246
~BOOKMARKED~ Thanks, American Dream 246.
121 posted on 12/26/2009 8:25:38 PM PST by tajgirvan (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year ! God Save America!)
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To: MindBender26

Not only does the airline have to fly the passenger back at their expense, we get a huge fine just for letting him/her board and get as far as the landing country. I work at a medium sized airport in the midwest and deal daily with international passengers. We NEVER even issue a boarding pass without the passport and applicable visa. Sounds to me like there was a lack of visa nad a bribe involved.


122 posted on 12/26/2009 8:25:48 PM PST by Merlinator (Take them all down...one czar at a time FUBO)
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To: LibertyRocks

Real refugees get passports with a refugee status denoted in them. I’ve seen a number of Sudanese ones.


123 posted on 12/26/2009 8:27:47 PM PST by Merlinator (Take them all down...one czar at a time FUBO)
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To: Candor7

He may have been referred to a manager, but no one is saying they saw him speak to a manager. He was (according to this story) sent down the hall. Who knows if he went there? He supposedly had a US visa, so he could have just decided to use his passport & visa and skip the sob story.


124 posted on 12/26/2009 8:32:19 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: HollyB
Of course he had a passport. He was posing as an undocumented passenger. I think the guy was right when he thought this was a sympathy ploy for a Sudanese refugee.

I don't know how they work things in Amsterdam, as I never flew into that airport, but I have worked plenty of international as well as domestic flights. Occasionally in the US, we would have INS deliver a passenger to the gate. I won't go into all the details of the procedure, but this happened all the time with illegal immigrants who had been arrested and were being sent back to country of origin. They certainly don't have passports with them. Did you think they bussed them over the border? Nope. They flew them commercial and the airline charged the government an arm a leg for that seat. Of course, this is leaving, not entering the country.

I have also had a Chinese businessman escorted to the plane by one of these VIP escorts who was very well dressed, but with a badge. I'd be curious to know if this "Indian" man (I agree, probably Pakistani), had a legitimate airline or airport badge on. This Chinese man was traveling through - I think it was Honolulu, but he could have been going through the West coast from Canada - and did not have a visa to stay in the US. So he was with a VIP escort. Again, I won't go into detail about what happens with the passenger's documentation, but it does happen that they get escorted to the aircraft door like this guy was describing.

It sounds like there was either an insider on this job, or they obviously had a pretty good feel for how it all worked.

125 posted on 12/26/2009 8:37:36 PM PST by ponygirl ("Actum est de republica." -"It is all over with the republic.")
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To: American Dream 246

Sharp Dressed Man.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_EFdod4YDo


126 posted on 12/26/2009 8:40:16 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: nuconvert

quote: “He may have been referred to a manager, but no one is saying they saw him speak to a manager. He was (according to this story) sent down the hall. Who knows if he went there? He supposedly had a US visa, so he could have just decided to use his passport & visa and skip the sob story.”

Or the two guys knew they could get on the plane because of “the manager”. An inside connection could also see to it that the bomb makes it on the plane. So I’d take a look at that manager, since terrorist incidents usually involve accomplices.


127 posted on 12/26/2009 8:41:13 PM PST by drierice
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To: Merlinator

Thanks for the information. I was pretty sure there had to be methods already in place for them.

That being the case, the manager who allowed this DEFINITELY needs to be fired, if they haven’t been already...

That’s the FIRST question I’d be asking if I were with the airline — WHO allowed this man to get his boarding pass in the first place?

If this was the terrorists’ plan in order to get this guy on the plane then it has to have happened more than once, or else they have an “inside” person at that airport/airline. All just my speculation, but I’d be looking for more participants in this plot. I would love to find out about the second passenger who was apparently arrested as well — the well-dressed one with him at the ticket counter...


128 posted on 12/26/2009 8:46:04 PM PST by LibertyRocks ( http://LibertyRocks.wordpress.com ~ ANTI-OBAMA STUFF : http://cafepress.com/NO_ObamaBiden08)
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To: American Dream 246

Wow. I have always suspected that there is a whole lot more terror going on than the government wants to admit. I believe even the Kenyan communist Ubama was alarmed when he finally got the inside skinny upon taking office. Not because he gives a crap about America, but because a successfull attack would hurt his image.


129 posted on 12/26/2009 8:49:01 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Candor7
LOL Strap another one to the other leg filled with some good double malt and a tube up to your collar. Might as well take the edge off.

If the terrorist is the only thing on fire it might come in handy to fan the flames. ;^)

130 posted on 12/26/2009 9:12:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: Eleven Bravo 6 319thID
What I find interesting is that the perp apparently waited until the plane was nearly at it’s destination before doing anything to detonate the explosive. Perhaps he was not that enthusiastic about being a martyr and only got up the courage at the end of the flight.

Uh no. The reason is to maximize casualties by adding casualties on the ground to those on the plane.
131 posted on 12/26/2009 9:27:53 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: stayathomemom

the flight remained in canadian airspace well into descent... did not cross into US until about 12,000 ft (going by lat/lon and track info):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA253/history/20091225/0754Z/EHAM/KDTW/tracklog

this scum was watching the little map tracker on the back of the seat in front of him until he knew he was over US soil.


132 posted on 12/26/2009 10:19:12 PM PST by leakinInTheBlueSea
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To: manc
When she asked the TSA woman at Boston why she is being pulled aside and they were not she was told that she had no choice or she’d be in trouble for racial profiling

Something needs to change! Why the f don't we rise up!!! They're letting obvious muzzies through, but white grannies are being detained.

133 posted on 12/26/2009 10:35:19 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (I long to hear: "Wake up. It was only a bad dream.")
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To: American Dream 246
we were held on the plane for 20 minutes AFTER IT LANDED!. A bomb could have gone off then. This wasn’t too smart of security to not let us off the plane immediately.

That's why all passengers are held on the plane. The FBI wants to find out if anyone else onboard is complicit in the plot.

134 posted on 12/26/2009 10:49:18 PM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: American Dream 246

The stupid federal employees are only thinking that old ladies will be easier to frisk than young men who might object. It’s about that simple.


135 posted on 12/26/2009 11:16:32 PM PST by michigancatholic
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To: American Dream 246
Thank you! Ok it's been 6 months but I don't think things have changed that much. Passport definitely required!
136 posted on 12/26/2009 11:19:59 PM PST by BellStar (Be strong ........Joshua 1:6)
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To: manc

That’s how it works.


137 posted on 12/26/2009 11:20:19 PM PST by michigancatholic
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To: All
twitter comment,not confirmed.

so the terrorist lived in a $6 million apt. there's goes the whole "poverty breeds terrorism" theory (AGAIN) #islam #sharia #jihad

138 posted on 12/26/2009 11:27:54 PM PST by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: InterceptPoint

More than “likely” now.

There are some fricking dumb newspeople out there.


139 posted on 12/26/2009 11:32:22 PM PST by michigancatholic
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To: HollyB
I figure the terrorist knew his father reported him six months ago. The only way he could get on that plane was with claiming no passport and then using a fictitious name or an abbreviated version of his own name.

I wonder who identified him first. The feds or his father when he saw the photo.

140 posted on 12/27/2009 12:20:31 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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