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Federal waste dump sells tons of excavated salt (destined for cattle feed in Texas)
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6786815.html ^

Posted on 12/26/2009 2:12:47 PM PST by Orange1998

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — Hundreds of tons of salt excavated from the Department of Energy's underground nuclear waste dump in southeastern New Mexico are destined for cattle feed in Texas.

The DOE's Carlsbad field office has reached an agreement with Magnum Minerals LLC of Hereford, Texas, which will buy up to 300,000 tons of salt from the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, known as WIPP. Magnum Minerals has contracted for $600,000 worth of salt, most of which will go into cattle feed, company president Tim Gearn said. Cattle feed is required to have certain minerals, including salt. It's the first such sale from WIPP, which eventually will have to get rid of the salt that's excavated for waste disposal rooms, said Vernon Daub, deputy manager of the field office. WIPP, which opened in March 1999, has an expected 35-year lifespan. Rooms to store waste will continue to be excavated as needed in the ancient salt beds 2,150 feet below the New Mexico desert.

WIPP eventually is expected to receive about 38,000 shipments from DOE sites around the country. The DOE has estimated it would cost $15 per ton to haul the salt to a municipal landfill, Daub said. Daub could not say how much salt already has been excavated, but said there will be plenty to fulfill the contract. "For us, the advantage is not having to dispose of the salt and put in a landfill," he said. "We have to pay someone to dispose of it at the end of the project sometime in future.

It's a cost savings or cost avoidance for us." WIPP buries defense-related waste such as protective clothing and tools, largely contaminated with plutonium, which remains radioactive for tens of thousands of years.

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China is probably snickering.

Currently, excavated salt from the storage rooms is stored at the WIPP site east of Carlsbad. Once a salt pile reaches a certain level, the DOE covers it to protect it from the weather. "From the public standpoint, you wouldn't want to put a lot of this in the landfill," Daub said.

1 posted on 12/26/2009 2:12:51 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

Do the cattle glow in the dark?


2 posted on 12/26/2009 2:19:11 PM PST by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Orange1998

Thats $2 a ton.

quite a deal.


3 posted on 12/26/2009 2:19:15 PM PST by GeronL (This is a tagline)
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To: Orange1998
Salt tends to do very nasty things to soil fertility, whether or not it is contaminated with nuclear waste. The prudent thing to do would be to send it to Yucca Mountain in Nevada because (1)the soil in the area is already worthless, (2)it averages around 2" of rainfall per year and (3)there is already a secure nuclear waste disposal facility in place and salt is quite useful in containment.

The risk of nuclear contamination getting into the food supply from salt in cattle feed is really quite low. But why chance it? Uncompromised salt is cheap and readily available.

4 posted on 12/26/2009 2:22:25 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

It would make more sense to send it to Yucca Mountain but why would they not sell it for a lot less than the cost to ship it? Isn’t that the kind of thing government does?


5 posted on 12/26/2009 2:24:02 PM PST by GeronL (This is a tagline)
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To: TommyDale
Do the cattle glow in the dark?
6 posted on 12/26/2009 2:25:53 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: GeronL

Cheap Dog food was a bargain until my dog died of kidney failure.


7 posted on 12/26/2009 2:27:02 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Orange1998

Imagine that! Now your steaks can be cooked before the cows even reach the slaughterhouse!


8 posted on 12/26/2009 2:27:18 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: Orange1998

This story would only be appropriate if it were being used to bash a Republican. The only way this is even remotely newsworthy is if we can find out which politician is pocketing the money from the sale.


9 posted on 12/26/2009 2:28:33 PM PST by Steamburg ( Your wallet speaks the only language most politicians understand.)
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To: Orange1998
Dump it in the Chicago canal full of Asian Carp.
10 posted on 12/26/2009 2:29:00 PM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar. ---- "OBAMA: THE GREAT MISTAKE OF 2008")
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To: Orange1998

A poorly written article? The salt is being removed BEFORE the nuclear waste is shipped there. The salt is being excavated to make room for the incoming waste. It’s not a nuclear waste dump until nuclear waste is dumped there and the salt comes out prior to its arrival.

At least that’s what I think is happening.


11 posted on 12/26/2009 2:30:06 PM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Orange1998

true


12 posted on 12/26/2009 2:30:10 PM PST by GeronL (This is a tagline)
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To: TommyDale

No, it is the salt excavated from the salt beds BEFORE they put the low level nuclear waste in it.


13 posted on 12/26/2009 2:34:23 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Orange1998

China is polluted beyond imagination. If the salt is left uncovered, it will leach into the ground and poison it for plant life for miles.


14 posted on 12/26/2009 2:36:40 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: jwparkerjr
You're exactly correct—this is excavated material being removed from a brand-new site. It's not contaminated with anything but salt, which is itself poisonous and hard to dispose of. But I disagree that the article is poorly written. It takes a lot of skill and craftsmanship to tell a lie while being factually accurate, as this writer does.
15 posted on 12/26/2009 2:38:04 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: Orange1998
My mother once found the diary from when two of our ancestors were courting. She wrote of how they were the last stop before town, and he sold salt...and then water...to those bringing livestock through. Since the buyer paid on a weight basis, all the sellers their stock bulked-up, water-retained.

...just one of those long-standing, classic inefficiencies of capitalism that make its overall efficiency and efficacy all the more wonderful.

16 posted on 12/26/2009 2:45:04 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Fabozz

re: It takes a lot of skill and craftsmanship to tell a lie while being factually accurate, as this writer does

Point well taken!


17 posted on 12/26/2009 2:53:54 PM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Orange1998

Why not dump it in the ocean, it’s already a bit salty, y’know


18 posted on 12/26/2009 2:55:02 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: Vigilanteman

The salt isn’t radioactive (well, other than naturally radioactive).


19 posted on 12/26/2009 3:01:45 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Why not dump it in the ocean

The liberal State of Maine puts tons of salt and other melting solutions on the roads to melt the ice and snow.

The nasty brew runs into the ditches and ruins people's wells.

The town's snow removal crews are forbidden from dumping the salted snow in the river, which here is about 5 miles from the ocean.

Idiots!

20 posted on 12/26/2009 3:17:20 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs, nothing more than bald haired hippies.)
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To: muir_redwoods
Why not dump it in the ocean, it’s already a bit salty, y’know

It could upset the delicate balance, the oceans are already dying from global warming, dontca know.

21 posted on 12/26/2009 3:25:54 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: Orange1998
it's like gold to states with icy roads in the winter...
22 posted on 12/26/2009 3:26:05 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: SouthTexas

Dear Mr S. Texas:

It is with much soul searching I have come to the conclusion that I will not be able to attend your Mesquite Beef Barbecue next July 4th due to the attention my 152 year old mother will require in the years ahead.

Please accept my sincere Thank You for considering me in your distinguished invitation list for for this Premier Event

I remain forever,

Mr T. Bender


23 posted on 12/26/2009 3:46:15 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Vigilanteman

Isn’t this just salt from the excavation? It should not have ever come in contact with radiation.


24 posted on 12/26/2009 3:46:34 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I am not sure I see a problem.


25 posted on 12/26/2009 3:53:33 PM PST by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: Orange1998; TommyDale; Vigilanteman; GeronL; The Magical Mischief Tour; FMBass; jwparkerjr

Is reading comprehension THAT poor even here on FR?

This salt is CLEAN! It is NOT radioactive, it has been mined out of the repository in order for radioactive waste to be BROUGHT IN!!


26 posted on 12/26/2009 4:50:48 PM PST by Don W (I keep some people's numbers in my phone so I know not to answer when they call)
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To: Don W
Is reading comprehension THAT poor even here on FR?

Yes, it is. I have seen it many times over the past 11 or so years.
27 posted on 12/26/2009 4:53:58 PM PST by aruanan
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To: Don W

“Is reading comprehension THAT poor even here on FR?
This salt is CLEAN! It is NOT radioactive, it has been mined out of the repository in order for radioactive waste to be BROUGHT IN!!”

Does that mean my steaks won’t be pre-cooked? Darn!
Well I guess they’ll at least be seasoned a bit.


28 posted on 12/26/2009 4:55:23 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: Don W
Is reading comprehension THAT poor even here on FR?

This salt is CLEAN!...

You're fighting many years of knee-jerk animal rights advertising.

29 posted on 12/26/2009 4:59:20 PM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$ or PETA.)
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To: Fabozz
Yes, I read this article in the Dallas Morning News (I think) (Holiday stuff was busy) and it took about 3 reads before I understood it was simply clean salt being moved to make room for waste. I think it was written that way on purpose. And oh how I learned to parse words with care. Thanks Freeperville.
30 posted on 12/26/2009 5:09:22 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: Don W

31 posted on 12/26/2009 5:26:47 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Don W

Yes, that’s what I said and someone agreed.


32 posted on 12/26/2009 5:28:04 PM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Orange1998

Why not. Dig a big hole in the ground to put other stuff into. The material taken out needs to go someplace.


33 posted on 12/26/2009 5:32:00 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Will Algore give me carbon credits for using treehuggers as home heating fuel? ~~ Galt/Reardon 2012)
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To: tubebender

Mr. Bender,

Now that’s just not being very neighborly to decline an invitation on such short notice, so we’ll see you here the first of July?

ST


34 posted on 12/26/2009 6:09:28 PM PST by SouthTexas (May you have a Blessed Christmas!)
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To: SouthTexas; Diana in Wisconsin

I had this inspiration while awaiting your reasoned reply. I’m looking for a partner to manufacture salt licks from this stuff for deer and elk and eliminate the spotlight now need for poaching over on Billy-Bobs spread.

I can see it now... “SO NUTRITIOUS YOUR DEER WILL GLOW IN THE DARK FOR HEALTHIER GAME MANAGEMENT”


35 posted on 12/26/2009 6:27:01 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: tubebender

Merry Christmas, Toobie!

36 posted on 12/26/2009 6:35:44 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: tubebender

While most of us down here still use headlights, there is serious merit in your suggestion. We should meet and discuss this further. Care to join me for breakfast?


37 posted on 12/26/2009 6:38:08 PM PST by SouthTexas (May you have a Blessed Christmas!)
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To: FMBass
WIPP, which began waste disposal operations in 1999, is located 26 miles outside of Carlsbad.
38 posted on 12/26/2009 6:39:25 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: nomorelurker

Yup, they been accepting waste material for 10 years. We should trust everything told to us.


39 posted on 12/26/2009 6:43:42 PM PST by Orange1998
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

You beat me to it?


40 posted on 12/26/2009 6:44:02 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I now see how things are:

I’m the idiot because I actually read and understand things, and show a modicum of concern that many people don’t show even a seventh grade level of comprehension.

You are the arbiter of how things should be perceived, and consider people like me talking mules for daring to point out shortcomings in basic literacy skills.

Thanks for the lesson in mediocrity. Do you teach in public schools?


41 posted on 12/26/2009 6:50:53 PM PST by Don W (I keep some people's numbers in my phone so I know not to answer when they call)
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To: Don W

The cattle glowing in the dark comment was an attempt at humor, clearly it fell short of your grasp... have a nice holiday.


42 posted on 12/26/2009 7:01:43 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: SouthTexas

Mind if I bring my lawyer?


43 posted on 12/26/2009 7:05:37 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Don W

Oh! I get it now! The beef won’t be cooked because the salt comes out before the waste goes in. Thanks for s’plain’n the article to us.

But I still have a question, won’t the beef be saltier?


44 posted on 12/26/2009 7:10:07 PM PST by FMBass ("Now that I'm sober I watch a lot of news"- Garofalo from Coulter's "Treason")
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To: TommyDale

The excavated salt was removed to make room for future low-level waste.

They’re not mixing it together.


45 posted on 12/26/2009 7:19:56 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: tubebender

Not a problem as long as you follow posted instructions.

All guns, dogs, and lawyers must be checked at the door.


46 posted on 12/26/2009 7:20:03 PM PST by SouthTexas (May you have a Blessed Christmas!)
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To: Old Professer; Don W

Speaking of reading comprehension...my post in #2 was sarcastic, and in humor. Something that most people at FR these days miss. This explains why many of us just don’t bother any longer to post.

As for how I really feel, I posted that later in #25 where I stated that I fail to see any problem.


47 posted on 12/26/2009 7:41:10 PM PST by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: SouthTexas

Now I know why my folks fled Texas in 21...


48 posted on 12/26/2009 7:49:36 PM PST by tubebender (Some minds are like concrete Thoroughly mixed up and permanently set...)
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To: Orange1998

***Hundreds of tons of salt excavated from the Department of Energy’s underground nuclear waste dump in southeastern New Mexico are destined for cattle feed in Texas.***

This makes it sound like they are selling radioactive salt. The area of SE New Mexico is an old underground lake bed of thick salt. Potash mines were there for years. You must excavate the salt to make a cave to put the radioactive waste in!

Just don’t dig where the Project Gnome set off an underground nuke back about 1961. Ater that blast they published a photo of the underground hole. I always wondered why they never used it for radioactive waste storage.


49 posted on 12/26/2009 8:06:28 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

***If the salt is left uncovered, it will leach into the ground and poison it for plant life for miles.***

What plant life! It is Chihuahuan desert! The only green is along the Pecos river!


50 posted on 12/26/2009 8:21:25 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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