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1 posted on 12/26/2009 2:37:09 PM PST by Cindy
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stepping back in time...

http://internet-haganah.com/harchives/005860.html

14 January 2007
“FUN WITH BINARY EXPLOSIVES
Binary explosives are bad, bad stuff.”

SNIPPET: “The jihadis have not yet learned how to make the stuff, but they have enough chemical engineers in their ranks that it should only be matter of time.”


2 posted on 12/26/2009 2:38:43 PM PST by Cindy
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WHY are Muslims allowed to fly???!?


3 posted on 12/26/2009 2:39:13 PM PST by Lazamataz (DEFINITION: rac-ist (rA'sis't) 1. Anyone who disagrees with a liberal about any topic.)
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A rhetorical question to all:

Had he not have screwed up, would the FBI have determined that a fire caused by electrical wires running through the Center Wing Tank started the fire and caused the explosion?


5 posted on 12/26/2009 2:41:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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RECAP:

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/December/09-nsd-1383.html

Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASESaturday, December 26, 2009
Nigerian National Charged with Attempting to Destroy Northwest Airlines Aircraft

WASHINGTON - A 23-year-old Nigerian man was charged in a federal criminal complaint today with attempting to destroy a Northwest Airlines aircraft on its final approach to Detroit Metropolitan Airport on Christmas Day, and with placing a destructive device on the aircraft.

According to an affidavit filed in support of the criminal complaint, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, 23, a Nigerian national, boarded Northwest Flight 253 in Amsterdam, Netherlands on December 24, 2009 and had a device attached to his body. As the flight was approaching Detroit Metropolitan Airport, Abdulmutallab set off the device, which resulted in a fire and what appears to have been an explosion. Abdulmutallab was then subdued and restrained by the passengers and flight crew. The airplane landed shortly thereafter, and he was taken into custody by Customs and Border Patrol officers.

A preliminary FBI analysis found that the device contained PETN, also known as pentaerythritol, a high explosive. Further analysis is ongoing. In addition, FBI agents recovered what appear to be the remnants of the syringe from the vicinity of Abdulmutallab’s seat, believed to have been part of the device.

“This alleged attack on a U.S. airplane on Christmas Day shows that we must remain vigilant in the fight against terrorism at all times,” Attorney General Eric Holder said. “Had this alleged plot to destroy an airplane been successful, scores of innocent people would have been killed or injured. We will continue to investigate this matter vigorously, and we will use all measures available to our government to ensure that anyone responsible for this attempted attack is brought to justice.”

Abdulmutallab required medical treatment, and was transported to the University of Michigan Medical Center after the plane landed. He will make his initial court appearance later today.

Interviews of all of the passengers and crew of Flight 253 revealed that prior to the incident, Abdulmutallab went to the bathroom for approximately twenty minutes, according to the affidavit. Upon returning to his seat, Abdulmutallab stated that his stomach was upset, and he pulled a blanket over himself. Passengers then heard popping noises similar to firecrackers, smelled an odor, and some observed Abdulmutallab’s pants leg and the wall of the airplane on fire. Passengers and crew then subdued Abdulmutallab and used blankets and fire extinguishers to put out the flames. Passengers reported that Abdulmutallab was calm and lucid throughout. One flight attendant asked him what he had had in his pocket, and he replied “explosive device.”

These prosecutions are being handled by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Michigan, with assistance from the Counterterrorism Section of the Justice Department’s National Security Division.

The investigation is being conducted by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, US Customs and Border Protection, and the Joint Terrorism Task Force.

The public is reminded that criminal complaints contain mere allegations and a defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

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6 posted on 12/26/2009 2:41:47 PM PST by Cindy
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I bet the coward chicken out!


8 posted on 12/26/2009 2:42:37 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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RECAP:

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2415386/posts?page=87#87

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Same stuff the shoe bomber used or tried.....semtex, dupont, ensign bickford, royal ordnance, etc all use it as a primary. ANFO is a .60, Military Dynamite is .80, TNT is 1.0 and C-4 is 1.34 on the relative equivalency scale and PETN is 1.66 on same scale before you get into insensitive / sensitive exotics used in nukes etc ....

You can get this in a medical form, from cannibalizing uxo on a battle field or by stripping det cord.

Last but not least you can buy it, say you blew up 30 pounds of it , keep 10 pounds for yer buddies......common in military and construction to keep a little around for “emergencies”........

I read that somewhere........;o)

87 posted on December 26, 2009 11:33:02 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)


9 posted on 12/26/2009 2:42:56 PM PST by Cindy
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After this episode, the 72 virgins will be of little use.
12 posted on 12/26/2009 2:45:03 PM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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"......The device intended to blow up the Northwest flight was made at the location in Yemen, according to Abdulmutallab, and consisted of a six-inch packet of powder and a syringe with a liquid. Both were sewn into the student's underwear so they would be near his testicles and unlikely to be detected, he told agents...."

Ouch!!!!!!!

14 posted on 12/26/2009 2:47:32 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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Maybe he should have practiced more. Or maybe a binary explosive to too advanced for the Muzzie to get his 7th Century brain around.


15 posted on 12/26/2009 2:49:16 PM PST by upchuck (The plan for 2010: Pray; Raise/conserve cash; Pray; Pay your debts; Pray; Stockpile; Buy ammo; VOTE!)
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I have a suspicion of what they used. It might be a burning agent, not explosive.
22 posted on 12/26/2009 2:55:22 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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Maybe they should start using PROFILING, instead of searching everyone, which is clearly not working too well to detect potential terrorists, it only inconveniences passengers.


30 posted on 12/26/2009 3:08:21 PM PST by SmartInsight (Dems in power are a clear and present danger to our freedom and the survival of our nation.)
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bm


32 posted on 12/26/2009 3:16:30 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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I wouldn’t think that a black Nigerian would have a strong likelihood of success in most any technical undertaking.

Just a guess.


33 posted on 12/26/2009 3:17:16 PM PST by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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I suspect that the basic design of this device was defective for the simple reason that due to the syringe, the liquid could only be introduced far too slowly into the powder. The instant that enough liquid came in contact with powder that ignition was achieved, the flash blew all remaining powder away, thus rendering the device useless as a destructive device beyond the resulting flames.


36 posted on 12/26/2009 3:21:27 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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We're spending billions on homeland security, and your survival might end up based on hand-to-hand combat with an armed terrorist on a plane in mid-flight.
41 posted on 12/26/2009 3:32:33 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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Perhaps a different thrust on this thread is in order.

We believe that the terrorist had a PETN bomb strapped to his nether regions and he had a non-metallic binary detonater configured to explode the PETN.

The Magnetometers that we currently use for screening in most airports will not likely detect this sort of a device. However, TSA has a device that will: the L3Com Pro-vision, a millimeter wave radar screening device. This system is in use in several airports on a trial basis. Some have complained because it can (horror of horrors), see beneath your clothes. That it can, but it doesn’t really show much beyond what you would see at the beach or your local supermarket. In the hands of a skilled operator, it would have almost certainly detected this device.

I have tested this device for a DoD agency and can attest that it is the smoothest thing since plain peanut butter. Its not coming into general use because of political correctness and likely attacks by the lefty legal crowd. But, its time to stop using the feel good security measures and start using systems like this together with an extensive profiling/interviewing scheme.


69 posted on 12/26/2009 4:05:18 PM PST by centurion316
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“This alleged attack on a U.S. airplane on Christmas Day shows that we must remain vigilant in the fight against terrorism at all times,” Attorney General Eric Holder said. “Had this alleged plot to destroy an airplane been successful, scores of innocent people would have been killed or injured. We will continue to investigate this matter vigorously, and we will use all measures available to our government to ensure that anyone responsible for this attempted attack is brought to justice.”


Man, Eric, are you a real man of genius or what! Whatya want, a medal or a chest to pin it on???


“Abdulmutallab required medical treatment...”


Whats a good salve to put on burns???

Salt???

Japaleno juice???


79 posted on 12/26/2009 4:23:51 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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I`m surprised they`re not calling this “just an angry person acting out”.


85 posted on 12/26/2009 4:32:28 PM PST by nomad
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Thanks to MamaDearest for pointing to this article:

http://news.scotsman.com/news/Details-emerge-of-Nigerian-student39s.5939806.jp

“Details emerge of Nigerian student’s lifestyle and movements as police search property”

Published Date: 27 December 2009
By Fiona MacLeod

SNIPPET: “In London, police were targeting addresses the 23-year-old is believed to have lived at while studying at the city’s University College.

In Nigeria, his father Alhaji Umaru Mutallab a prominent and wealthy businessman from the Muslim-dominated north of the country was meeting security officials in the capital, Abuja. Nigeria’s This Day newspaper reported that Mutallab’s father was uncomfortable with his son’s extreme religious views and had reported his activities to the US embassy in Abuja as well as Nigerian security agencies.

He said his son left London to travel, though he did not know where to.

Mutallab said: “I believe he might have been to Yemen, but we are investigating to determine that.” The father, a former minister and chairman of First Bank in Nigeria, and several relatives were listed as living at a flat in a luxury mansion in Mansfield Street, London, which was searched by police yesterday.”

SNIPPET: “Abdulmutallab attended the British School in Lome, Togo. The friend added: “About three years ago we were talking about 9/11 (in 2001). I was saying under no circumstances could it ever be okay to kill all those innocent people. He was much more equivocal.

“He said 9/11 was an act of war — that American troops were on Saudi soil and had humiliated Muslim countries so these actions might be necessary. That’s the only time I ever had an argument with him. He was normally very careful what he said.”

SNIPPET: “The friend added: “I speak to his family. In the last year they’ve been really concerned about him. They said he’s started to become very extreme. They were really worried about him. His dad wanted him to go to this very good school in America to study chemical engineering, but he was doing badly in his studies.”

Abdulmutallab was a student at University College London (UCL) between 2005 and 2008 before returning to Nigeria. If he had been radicalised, neighbours from his time as a UCL did not notice.”

SNIPPET: “But reports in Nigera quoted members of the extended Abdulmutallab family saying that he had travelled to Yemen in recent years during his university holidays to study at an Islamic institute.

He is reported in America to have told investigators he acquired the bomb-making equipment from Al-Qaeda terrorists in Yemen.

It emerged yesterday that Abdulmutallab was known to US counter-terrorism intelligence officials.

Peter King, from the American Homeland Security Committee, said “my understanding is … that (the suspect] does have al-Qaeda connections, certainly extremist terrorist connections, and his name popped up pretty quickly” in a search of intelligence databases. However, he was not on a “no-fly” list.”

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Last Updated: 26 December 2009 11:34 PM
Source: Scotland On Sunday
Location: Scotland


90 posted on 12/26/2009 4:59:06 PM PST by Cindy
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Video (CNN): "Intended Victims of Northwest Flight 253 Apprehended Islamic Terrorist" (Note: THANK YOU PASSENGER JASPER SCHURINGA for your quick action. -Cindy) (December 26, 2009)

112 posted on 12/26/2009 9:39:36 PM PST by Cindy
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