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Thomas Woods: States Can Nullify Unconstitutional Federal Laws!
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Posted on 12/27/2009 3:28:00 AM PST by Jim Robinson

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; 2010; constitution; defiance; evil; freemarket; governor; healthcare; marxism; nullification; obama; obamacare; reagan; scotus; senate; socialism; sovereignty; states; statesrights; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; vote; wethepeople

1 posted on 12/27/2009 3:28:03 AM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

On January 22, 1973, all fifty governors of the U.S. were confronted with the OBLIGATION to nullify an act of the federal government that was unconstitutional, oppressive, and murderous.

To this day, despite the deaths of fifty million people at the hands of the federal government, no governor has recognized any obligation to resist, let alone acted on it.


2 posted on 12/27/2009 3:37:47 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Arthur McGowan

Sad as it to say but since this bill puts a giant hole in any pretensions the states have of balancing their budget they will seek a way out of it. Money trumps life. Its callous i know but it us what it is.


3 posted on 12/27/2009 3:48:39 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Jim Robinson

One or two states refusing to implement will bring down this house of cards. There’s already an uproar over the Nebraska provision and the chances of that remaining in the bill would seem slim.
What i want to know is what happens to the elected officials taking cover under a misused commerce clause? They are clearing grasping at straws and indeed must be aware of that themselves. How can they remain in office if they don’t know the law of the land? If they refuse to even give it anything but the most passing acknowledgement?


5 posted on 12/27/2009 3:56:57 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: wiggen
How can they remain in office if they don’t know the law of the land?

Because the people who will vote to re-elect them,

1. Don't know (or don't care about) the law of the land either.

2. Benefit from the tax money that the elected criminals pull out of OUR pockets and use to buy votes from people who are 'entitled'.

3. Have given up trying to get a fair shake out of the government, and benefit more from joining the gravy train than trying to stop it.

4. Are idiots. In a (brief) conversation, one such person said, "The failure of the democrats is their naivete in believing that people will not try to take advantage of the health care system."

How do you carry on a conversation after THAT comment?

6 posted on 12/27/2009 4:08:12 AM PST by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Jim Robinson

The federal Real ID Act was nullified by numerous states.

It’s now returning as the radio tracking “Enhanced Driver’s License,” compliments of “see no terrorism, hear no terrorism” homeland security director Janet Napolitano.

It’s time to nullify nearly everything coming from these DC fascists. What’s king obuma going to do? March a brigade of bed-wetting New York metrosexuals down to Texas to hit the governor over the head with a purse.

Joshua Chamberlain left the Northeast 100 years ago and he ain’t coming back.


7 posted on 12/27/2009 4:13:20 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Jim Robinson

bump and mark


8 posted on 12/27/2009 4:15:36 AM PST by don-o (My son, Ben - Marine Lance Corporal is in Iraq.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


9 posted on 12/27/2009 4:25:46 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Quiller

i was thinking more in terms not of being re elected but rather of being qualified.
Its obvious some minimal qualification should be necessary as well as the will to enforce those standards both before and after an election.
Simply raising money and knowing how to run a campaign or hiring someone to run it for you should not be all the qualification needed.
To save anyone from the need to throw in anything else,yes,citizenship proven needs be included as well. My point however is towards being able to ably fulfill the office to which one is elected. Being elected does not automatically demonstrate qualification. That’s the ass backwards system we have in place now.


10 posted on 12/27/2009 4:30:03 AM PST by wiggen (Never in the history of our great country have the people had less representation than they do today)
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To: Jim Robinson
Woods is one of my favorites. He has a classic free market and property rights orientation, yet sees the modern merchantilist/crony capitalist oligarchy for what it is.

As some others, I too am beginning to see some sort of states-based movement as a good way around much of the mess we're in.

BTW Jim, don't you ever sleep?

11 posted on 12/27/2009 4:34:03 AM PST by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: sergeantdave

wow...hadn’t heard about that one. Thanks.
http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/crossingborders/gc_1197575704846.shtm


12 posted on 12/27/2009 4:39:25 AM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: EBH

Privacy Protection

No personally identifiable information is stored on the card’s RFID chip or can be transmitted electronically by the card. The card uses a unique identification number that links to information contained in a secure Department of Homeland Security database. This number does not contain any personally identifiable information.

CAN YOU BELIEV THIS IT SAYS THAT NO PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFO IS STORED ON THE CARD. How that they really check you out if it isn’t? I call B.S.


13 posted on 12/27/2009 5:42:21 AM PST by wewereright
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To: wiggen

Impeachment for 0bama


14 posted on 12/27/2009 5:46:00 AM PST by free1977free
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To: Jim Robinson
Bump for later.
15 posted on 12/27/2009 5:46:04 AM PST by free1977free
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To: wiggen
Unfortunately knowing the laws of the land aren't a requirement for the job. The only requirement is knowing how to get elected, and for most of them that's their only area of expertise.

The average politician scored lower on this civics test than the average citizen. They are even more ignorant than we, the people.

http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/2008/additional_finding.html

16 posted on 12/27/2009 5:51:38 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: arbooz
TJ is my absolute favorite Founder. I prescribe to his philosophies “hook line and sinker”.
17 posted on 12/27/2009 6:06:48 AM PST by GingisK
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To: arbooz
Yes. He said this too. But unfortunately ThJ is dead, and the other guys have the guns now.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 12/27/2009 6:36:10 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
...But unfortunately ThJ is dead...

No, he lives in those of us who prescribe to his philosophy. We just haven't quite reached the "flashpoint", but we may be getting close.

20 posted on 12/27/2009 7:38:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: arbooz
Yes, but his ideas live on. We have guns as well, and there are more of us than them.

Few stand more in awe of Mr. Jefferson than I. I have several times paid the entrance fee at Monticello just to walk up to his gravesite.

There is more to revolt than just having guns. Organization probably counts more than guns. The Tea Parties are nice but they are just that: tea parties.

ML/NJ

21 posted on 12/27/2009 7:59:30 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
The Tea Parties are nice but they are just that: tea parties.

The Founders found themselves in their War after merely getting together to write letters to the king. This is analogous to those who attend "Tea Parties" and return from foreign wars being declared as terrorism suspects by the federal government. Patriots of today will not fire the first shot, that will be the function of our tyrannical government.

I do agree that we need to organize. Even the Founders "organized" by merely writing letters and newspaper articles. We are, however, going down exactly the same path.

22 posted on 12/27/2009 8:07:22 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

...and the liberty tree was just a tree with candle lanterns.


23 posted on 12/27/2009 8:11:51 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: arbooz
If not us, who? If not now, when?

Nice paraphrase. But it's also about imposed disorganization.

ML/NJ

25 posted on 12/27/2009 8:49:05 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Jim Robinson

[[Thomas Woods: States Can Nullify Unconstitutional Federal Laws!]]

Yes, but it sucks for those folks hwo live in states that won’t nullify unconstitutional federal laws, and our federal government thrives on creating law that is unconstitutional knowing that many states won’t constest hte laws and will just buckle under for fear of being punished financially by hte government- little by little, the govenrment is trampling the constitution and getting away with it.

While states can nullify federal law individually, it would be much better to nullify the law nationally- upholding our constitution for EVERYONE, not just for htose in states that buck the govenrment’s attempts at usurping the constitution


26 posted on 12/27/2009 9:33:44 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: sergeantdave

[[It’s time to nullify nearly everything coming from these DC fascists. What’s king obuma going to do? March a brigade of bed-wetting New York metrosexuals down to Texas to hit the governor over the head with a purse.]]

Actually he’s ammassing an army of ‘militia’ (can’t remember hte name of the group- but it’s somethign like the ‘praparedness brigade’ or somethign liek that- I’m probably way off on the name- but basically it’s a group of trained individuals who will be called into action if there are any serious threats or opposition to his policies) There was also the ‘civilian something or other corp’ that he was ammassing- The dems have been preparing to trample our consitution for al ong time now, and they KNEW full well they would meet resistence, which is why obama has been amassing these groups- Make NO mistake about it- Obama and hte far left ARE INDEED anti-American/Anti-Constitution


27 posted on 12/27/2009 9:39:56 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: longtermmemmory
...and the liberty tree was just a tree with candle lanterns.

This makes no sense to me. Care to explain?

28 posted on 12/27/2009 10:45:47 AM PST by GingisK
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To: CottShop

“Actually he’s ammassing an army of ‘militia’ “

Nope. Not happening.


29 posted on 12/27/2009 12:21:20 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: GingisK

Liberty Trees were trees where old style colonial candle lanters would be hung as a signal that this was a place for gathering to discuss political circumstances.

It was not just a figurative symbol it was also a literal tree (elm BTW).


30 posted on 12/27/2009 1:02:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Liberty Trees were trees where old style colonial candle lanters would be hung...

OhForPeteSakes! I should have remembered that! Getting old, I guess.

Yes, we need signaling for gathering places as well. I suppose Bud Light bottles might get too many people just standing around.

31 posted on 12/27/2009 2:47:36 PM PST by GingisK
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To: wewereright

The infor is stored on the database of the DHS. It is not on the card. You have no priviledge to your own information that the DHS has collected on you. Especially if you are crossing borders as that falls under the new Executive Order 12425.

“Papers Please”


32 posted on 12/27/2009 3:16:39 PM PST by EBH (it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute a new Government)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT! So happy to see you post Tom here. His voice should be heard far and wide. THANKS!


33 posted on 12/27/2009 9:05:40 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim. Judge Napolitano is one of the best national spokesmen for freedom out there. He spoke of an upcoming series on the Constitution. I don't get Fox on TV. I'd like to be on whosoever ping list it is that will be following Judge Napolitano, his input, and especially this series. Are you or anyone in FR going to run threads on him?
34 posted on 12/28/2009 6:27:39 PM PST by Jim 0216
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To: Jim Robinson

/mark


35 posted on 12/29/2009 3:16:05 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Nobody move, Nobody get hurt)
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To: Jim 0216

Just in case you hadn’t seen this yet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9kM6vWL2QA
the judge’s constitution series is linked here


36 posted on 01/17/2010 12:04:30 PM PST by American72 (Sick of Liberals)
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To: Jim Robinson
With federal connivance, sure.

The "sanctuary" movement of the 1980s was a nullification of federal immigration laws.

Practical "nullification" of those laws goes on to this day.

Washington either doesn't care or doesn't want to or can't make state and local authorities comply with federal immigration law when state and local governments don't want to, so city and state agencies do as they please.

But is that really a good model for how government should work?

Woods is one of those people who believes that the Articles of Confederation were a better system than the Constitution.

He has the right to think so. But he may be treating the Constitution as though it were the Articles. That would be a problem.

37 posted on 01/17/2010 12:32:45 PM PST by x
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To: American72
Thanks for the ping. Judge Napolitano (the polar opposite of Obama's Janet Napolitano) is good people. He expresses clearly and simply the common sense that we who have half a brain already know. I'd like to be included on a Judge Napolitano ping list if you have access to one.

Thanks.

38 posted on 01/17/2010 6:37:03 PM PST by Jim 0216
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