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Officials: Only A Failed Detonator Saved Northwest Flight
ABC ^ | 12/27/09 | RICHARD ESPOSITO and BRIAN ROSS

Posted on 12/27/2009 10:51:27 AM PST by Nachum

Officials now say tragedy was only averted on Northwest flight 253 because a makeshift detonator failed to work properly. Share Man accused of attempt to blow up plane was sent on mission by terror leaders.

Bomb experts say there was more than enough explosive to bring down the Northwest jet, which had nearly 300 people aboard, had the detonator not failed, and the nation's outdated airport screening machines may need to be upgraded.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: acme; detonator; failed; flight; saved; thesystemworked; tm
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1 posted on 12/27/2009 10:51:28 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

That and a Dutchman.


2 posted on 12/27/2009 10:53:25 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Nachum

But, but, Janet Napoletano said the system worked.


3 posted on 12/27/2009 10:53:37 AM PST by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: Nachum

Silly....”The System Worked...


4 posted on 12/27/2009 10:53:37 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Merry Christmas, FReepers!)
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To: Nachum
The system worked...

Off to the salt mines with anyone who disagrees! /s

5 posted on 12/27/2009 10:53:42 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Nachum

Don’t give those b%$#%.. all the info !


6 posted on 12/27/2009 10:54:47 AM PST by traumer
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Like minds will abound this this statement on this thread. ; )


7 posted on 12/27/2009 10:54:51 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: EGPWS

That’s with...


8 posted on 12/27/2009 10:55:36 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Nachum

Umm he went through security overseas, so how do they know our machines need to be upgraded? (the fact that they actually do is secondary)

They will use this incident to make the full body scanners mandatory at all airports.


9 posted on 12/27/2009 10:56:04 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Nachum

The only way the system worked is if there was a secret detonator disabler at the gate.

Joking aside, it appears that this explosive is relatively easy to ignite and after all, there was some kind of initiation.

I wonder if the components or blend was not right.


10 posted on 12/27/2009 10:56:04 AM PST by blackminorca
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To: Nachum

11 posted on 12/27/2009 10:56:04 AM PST by csvset
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To: nj patriot

Fix the system.

Raise taxes.


12 posted on 12/27/2009 10:56:19 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Nachum

Whatever list he was on needs to be added to the NO-Fly list. At the very least we need to start profiling and doing more questioning and searching of all young muslim sounding or look young men.


13 posted on 12/27/2009 10:56:21 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: Nachum

Early Dutchman reports said he saw a **sophisticated DEVICE** on this lab, and not something like a BAG of mixed chemicals.


14 posted on 12/27/2009 10:56:30 AM PST by gaijin
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH
FAILED SECURITY IS THE SYSTEM WORKED

Remember, we live in 1984.


15 posted on 12/27/2009 10:57:41 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: gaijin

Well at least in four years the wounded passengers and the victims on the ground will have free healthcare.


16 posted on 12/27/2009 10:58:34 AM PST by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: gaijin

this lab = HIS LAP...sorry..!


17 posted on 12/27/2009 10:58:36 AM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin
No one knows the well dressed "mystery man" was who accompanied Abdulmuttalab on the flight. I'm not buying the official story he acted alone.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find only things evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelogus

18 posted on 12/27/2009 10:59:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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btrl


19 posted on 12/27/2009 10:59:16 AM PST by Clinging Bitterly (MMM MMM MM!)
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To: blackminorca; All

—my tagline applies—


20 posted on 12/27/2009 10:59:23 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the MSM tells you about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: nj patriot
But, but, Janet Napoletano said the system worked.

It did! Their system is based on blind luck and Dutch passengers on every flight...

21 posted on 12/27/2009 11:00:50 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Big government more or less guarantees rule by creeps and misfits.)
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To: nj patriot

“There is a providence that protects idiots, drunkards, children, and the United States of America” is often said to be a quotation of Otto von Bismarck (1818-1898).

That’s the only system that worked.


22 posted on 12/27/2009 11:01:42 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: Col Frank Slade
Raise taxes.

Finally some common sense posting.

As long as there is a chance for free dollar out there for our great great great grandchildren to enjoy and appreciate, we need to consider raising taxes.

23 posted on 12/27/2009 11:01:44 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: commish

He didn’t even have a passport!

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2009/12/flight_253_passenger_says_at_l.html


24 posted on 12/27/2009 11:01:47 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: traumer
Don’t give those b%$#%.. all the info !

Indeed, they won't make the same mistake twice, and for next time they'll know what is "more than enough to bring down the jet".

Just gotta love the media, grrrrr

25 posted on 12/27/2009 11:07:38 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Harry Reid - Pimp of the US Senate)
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To: freekitty
...had the detonator not failed, and the nation's outdated airport screening machines may need to be upgraded.

It was Christmas - so God and a Dutchman??

26 posted on 12/27/2009 11:08:11 AM PST by GOPJ (Rick Santelli for Man of the Year! - Freeper mewzilla)
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To: Nachum

Jack Bauer got in there and substituted a dud detonator for the real one. “It’s all part of the plan.”

Al Qaida has always had a Keystone Kops quality about it. 911 had more opportunities to fail than succeed. It only succeeded because of the incredible political correctness and incompetence of the FAA security apparatus, a tradition handed on down to the elephantine TSA.


27 posted on 12/27/2009 11:08:45 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: freekitty

we need to send that dutchman after the dyke


28 posted on 12/27/2009 11:09:41 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: goldstategop
I'm not buying the official story he acted alone.

Flight 253, he acted alone.

Ft. Hood, he acted alone.

Don't argue, we need your support to catch all these individuals who by coincidence happen to have the same religious background, tote the same attitude, are about the same age group, have the same ties, and take action to kill us indiscriminately.

Take governments heed and stop the profiling.

The MSM will appreciate it too.

29 posted on 12/27/2009 11:11:09 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: freekitty

The hand of God...


30 posted on 12/27/2009 11:12:16 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: goldstategop

Another passenger very emphatically witnessed the arrest of TWO men from the flight, after an explosive search dog alterted on one of the carry-on bags of one of the passengers.

The man was led away in handcuffs, nothing more heard of him.


31 posted on 12/27/2009 11:12:28 AM PST by gaijin
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To: 1000 silverlings
we need to send that dutchman after the dyke

Are you suggesting he should stick his finger in the dyke?

32 posted on 12/27/2009 11:14:22 AM PST by dearolddad
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To: Nachum
had the detonator not failed, and the nation's outdated airport screening machines may need to be upgraded.

The liberal answer, of course, is spend more money - after all, our debt isn't anywhere close to high enough.

But more questionably is why would upgrading any (or perhaps all) of the screening machines in the US have affected this in the slightest? Do we have US screening machines over in foreign countries? Certainly news to me; I mean, I suppose I could expect them to be in Iraq, possibly Afghanistan, but doubtful in Europe. That was where the plane came from that nearly blew up over our city, right?

33 posted on 12/27/2009 11:15:09 AM PST by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Nachum

The incompetence of Barack Hussein Obama and his Black Muslim Presidency is limitless:

1. Obama’s FBI did not alert the ARMY that Maj Nidal Hassan was a Muslim Extremist.

2. Obama’s DSH posts super secret Airport Screening Manual on the internet.

3. Obama’s State Dept did nothing to revoke Abdul Farouk Abdulmutallab’s VISA after Abdul’s father told the US Embassy that his son was a MUSLIM Extremist.

Now this same incompetent Black Muslim Presidency wants to manage our HEALTHCARE!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 12/27/2009 11:15:51 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: rellimpank

Aint that the truth.


35 posted on 12/27/2009 11:22:16 AM PST by blackminorca
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To: Nachum

All US citizens should be required to fly on commercial airlines and all terrorists should be required to fly on Air Force One.

This will save time, money and lives.


36 posted on 12/27/2009 11:22:19 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: dearolddad

Are you suggesting he should stick his finger in the dyke?

Oh please, this brave man has done enough.


37 posted on 12/27/2009 11:23:34 AM PST by nj patriot (Gore is beyond help.... Snakes in the head.)
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To: dearolddad

stick a pitchfork in her, she’s done


38 posted on 12/27/2009 11:29:01 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Al Qaida has always had a Keystone Kops quality about it.

It's catch as catch can, like the Apache who tried to lasso the Iron Horse. Silly Apache. Next time he tried loosening a rail.

39 posted on 12/27/2009 11:29:23 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: Nachum

Not according to the administration...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2009/12/napolitano-system-worked.html


40 posted on 12/27/2009 11:30:50 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Nachum

And rank politicization of national security nearly killed them.


41 posted on 12/27/2009 11:31:21 AM PST by nomad
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To: Nachum

The barney fife WH making excuses


42 posted on 12/27/2009 11:33:20 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Nachum

Gol durn it, the press just has to stop changing their minds. They just got through telling me that only Janet Napolitano saved this airplane from disaster. Who needs a silly old detonator thingy when we have Janet from another Planet.

As for screening devices, Janet has saved us once again. The TSA has approved a device that would have easily detected this bomb. Its a millimeter wave radar system built by L3Com (They call it Provision). Its been tested to be far superior to the magnatometers currently in use. Oh wait, it seems that TSA has only a few in limited use in a few airports. It seems that a few people object because it can “see” underneath clothing and we don’t want to offend anyone.


43 posted on 12/27/2009 11:39:06 AM PST by centurion316
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To: nj patriot

Are you kidding me? Napalitano said the system worked?


44 posted on 12/27/2009 11:39:32 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: EGPWS
"Investigators believe Abdulmutallab was connected to al Qaeda by the same radical imam, American-born Anwar Awlaki, who is linked to the American Army major accused of opening fire at Fort Hood in November."

There is an international Muslim conspiracy to kill Americans and Obama's team is doing nothing to stop it.

How's Zero's "no torture" policy looking now? How's it going to look if planes start dropping from the sky, one by one and the guy in captivity knows all about who is behind it?

45 posted on 12/27/2009 11:41:25 AM PST by BigBobber
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To: Nachum

[and the nation’s outdated airport screening machines may need to be upgraded.]

another reason to spend more money we don’t have.....geeeezzzzzz


46 posted on 12/27/2009 11:44:01 AM PST by is_is (VPD of Sgt Dan, Former 2/5 MARINE - "Sleep Well America......Your Marines have your Back")
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To: Nachum
I would REALLY like to know the unadulterated TRUTH about Flight 800.

I strongly suspect a SUCCESSFUL detonator and a similar amount of PETN. Just like richard reede, the shoe bomber (well, almost).

47 posted on 12/27/2009 11:46:24 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: kingu

I flew out of Amsterdam, on Continental, a couple of years back, and Continental had additional screening for passengers on the flight to Houston.


48 posted on 12/27/2009 11:48:54 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: Nachum
Diversion!

Look behind you. See another Nigerian??? Check him for the “other WMD”.

49 posted on 12/27/2009 11:50:53 AM PST by Battle Axe (Repent, for the coming of the Lord is nigh.)
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To: BigBobber
Miss George Bush yet?
50 posted on 12/27/2009 11:52:39 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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