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U.S. troops testing British-style camo
Stars and Stripes ^ | December 28, 2009 | Seth Robson

Posted on 12/28/2009 4:02:06 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

GRAFENWÖHR, Germany — British and American soldiers soon could be hard to tell apart if the U.S. Army adopts a camouflage pattern similar to one that the British have already picked out to conceal their troops in Afghanistan.

U.S. soldiers with 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment in eastern Afghanistan are wearing new uniforms featuring the "MultiCam" camouflage pattern as part of a trial conducted by the Army to determine the best way to help troops blend in with their environment.

Last week the British Ministry of Defence announced that its troops would soon start wearing a new uniform with a version of MultiCam dubbed the "Multi-Terrain Pattern."

Uniforms in the new pattern will be issued to troops with 4 Mechanized Brigade deploying to Afghanistan in March. The uniforms will later be introduced across all three services, the ministry said in a statement posted on its Web site.

"This new camouflage will help our troops blend into different environments in Helmand province to stay hidden from the Taliban," British Defence Secretary Bob Ainsworth said in the statement. "Patrols take our troops through the Green Zone, scrubland, desert and arid stony environments and it is crucial that the camouflage can work across all of them."

The U.S. Army is testing MultiCam alongside a version of the digital Universal Camouflage Pattern already featured on the Army Combat Uniform.

Sgt. Michael McCormick, 23, of San Diego, said Monday that he’s wearing the new version of the digital uniform, which has "coyote brown" splotches, on patrols with 4th Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division out of Kandahar, Afghanistan.

But he said he prefers the MultiCam pattern that other soldiers are testing because it’s not digital and therefore blends in better with Afghan terrain. He added that any new uniform should do away with the fabric fastener pockets and attachments that are on his ACUs.

"[The fabric fastener] gets dusty or dirty and it doesn’t work anymore. You can’t keep your sleeves or collar down and it’s not tactical. If you have to adjust something during a mission it makes a loud noise," he said.

The prospect of being mistaken for one of his British counterparts doesn’t faze McCormick.

"I’ve worked a lot with the Brits, especially on my last deployment to Afghanistan," he said. "A common [camouflage] scheme wouldn’t be bad in any shape or form. It’s not like the Afghans know the difference between British and American soldiers."

And a common uniform might provide a psychological advantage over the Taliban, who would be unable to use knowledge about a particular nation’s standard operating procedures when planning attacks, he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; camouflage; uktroops; uniform; usarmy

1 posted on 12/28/2009 4:02:07 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
British and American soldiers soon could be hard to tell apart

No problem. The Brits will be the ones with the "silly walk".

2 posted on 12/28/2009 4:03:56 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

The Brits will also be the ones with crappy equipment.


3 posted on 12/28/2009 4:12:05 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
... and the Union Jack on their sleeve?
4 posted on 12/28/2009 4:14:10 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Sarah Palin - For such a time as this)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Looks like some Realtree camo I had my eye on in the Cabelas catalog.


5 posted on 12/28/2009 4:16:26 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Jet Jaguar
He added that any new uniform should do away with the fabric fastener pockets and attachments that are on his ACUs.

"[The fabric fastener] gets dusty or dirty and it doesn’t work anymore. You can’t keep your sleeves or collar down and it’s not tactical. If you have to adjust something during a mission it makes a loud noise," he said.

The ACU's are crap. They wear out too soon, look dirty, and all that velcro is a throw-back to the 90's. Buttons have always been better closures in a field uniform.

6 posted on 12/28/2009 4:20:52 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Very effective. The platoon standing behind that soldier was not even visible.


7 posted on 12/28/2009 4:21:00 AM PST by MrDem (And this is a loyal lifelong Democrat saying this... Democrats for Cheney/Palin 2012)
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To: Jet Jaguar
What ever happened to the digitized camo that the Marines created....


8 posted on 12/28/2009 4:29:56 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: MrDem

“Very effective. The platoon standing behind that soldier was not even visible.”

Good one.

...OK, I’ll admit it, you got me to scroll up for a second look. :-P


9 posted on 12/28/2009 4:31:25 AM PST by AussieJoe
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To: Jet Jaguar

Kind of reminds me of the old tiger strips.


10 posted on 12/28/2009 4:44:55 AM PST by pappyone (New to Freep, still working a tag line.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“..and now for something completely similar”


11 posted on 12/28/2009 4:47:19 AM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: Vaquero
What ever happened to the digitized camo that the Marines created....

It doesn't work unless you're logged in.

Mark

12 posted on 12/28/2009 4:56:41 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Needs a powder blue beret...


13 posted on 12/28/2009 5:10:41 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15)
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To: Jet Jaguar

GRAFENWÖHR... The coldest I’ve ever been, February 14, 1967. 4th Armored Division, 144th Signal Battalion.

We had the infamous.... TA-50 Gear.


14 posted on 12/28/2009 5:15:43 AM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

What??? No “Mossy Oak?”


15 posted on 12/28/2009 5:22:05 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Well, that soldier is definately American. The only British soldier wearing that colour beret would be SAS, and they don’t generally stand around posing for photos...


16 posted on 12/28/2009 5:25:05 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Capt_Hank

That was TA 50-901 : >)


17 posted on 12/28/2009 5:26:29 AM PST by Ben Hecks ("...a soldier's pack is not as heavy a burden as a prisoner's chains." - Eisenhower)
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To: Ben Hecks

You are so correct.... along with the “Micky Mouse” boots.


18 posted on 12/28/2009 5:28:11 AM PST by Capt_Hank (btu's...kcal's...to kJ's, but my activation energy is still high.)
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To: Capt_Hank

You guys obviously didn’t have polypro, silkweights, goretex, microfleece, waffle tops/bottoms, bear suits, and marshmallow suits... :0)


19 posted on 12/28/2009 5:33:01 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Wrong shade of tan to be a Ranger beret, plus the flash and shaping are all wrong. Gotta be a Brit.


20 posted on 12/28/2009 5:39:25 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: MrDem
Very effective. The platoon standing behind that soldier was not even visible.

Yes, but he and his Humvee stand out like sore thumbs.

21 posted on 12/28/2009 5:42:24 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Sarajevo
... velcro is a throw-back to the 90's. Buttons have always been better closures in a field uniform.

Agreed. The darn velcro is always reclosing and needing reopening at the most inconvenient times. Hard to do with one hand while it is holding something to put in the pocket.

22 posted on 12/28/2009 5:45:12 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government)
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To: Jet Jaguar
The U.S. Army is testing MultiCam alongside a version of the digital Universal Camouflage Pattern already featured on the Army Combat Uniform.

Unbelievable. The digital Camo ACU is basically 'new' and hundreds of MILLIONS was spent on its development to be a 'Universal', one size fits all (terrain) Camo. Forget the millions in distribution to soldiers. This 'new' digital Camo resulted from the Army realizing the 'Desert Camo' issued during the Gulf War didn't really look like the desert.(1)

Leave it to Army bureaucrats to waste money (head shaking). Maybe they should just order everything from Cabella's and be done with it. (but then Murtha couldn't line his pockets could he)

(1) Per documentary on the Mil Channel.

23 posted on 12/28/2009 5:52:10 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Future Snake Eater; sinsofsolarempirefan
*** Wrong shade of tan to be a Ranger beret, plus the flash and shaping are all wrong. Gotta be a Brit. ***

'scuse me for buttin' in but that IS a Brit in the pic.
If you click and read the article that picture has a caption. 'Photo courtesy of the British Ministry of Defence'(sic)

Carry on.

24 posted on 12/28/2009 6:04:59 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Vaquero

It’s called MARPAT. In use with our forces today.

The last DOD “best-to-worst” ranking I saw for camo patterns went something like this:

1. RealTree
2. new British pattern
3. Multicam
4. MARPAT
5. ACU


25 posted on 12/28/2009 6:52:27 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
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To: snowrip

well hell...give the contract to Bill Jordan....give it to an American company.


26 posted on 12/28/2009 7:09:46 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan; Future Snake Eater; Condor51

While the sand-coloured ‘beige’ beret is SAS, some regiments wear a khaki beret which under certain lighting conditions doesn’t look much different.

I can’t get a good view of his cap badge, but it looks like it could be the Yorkshire Regiment and they wear the khaki beret.


27 posted on 12/28/2009 9:11:44 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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