Skip to comments.Third-grade photo capture's [sic] Obama's grin (3rd grade in Hawaii?)
Posted on 12/28/2009 8:19:31 AM PST by Ready4FreddyEdited on 12/29/2009 12:28:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]
A former Manoa resident sent President Barack Obama an old photo of the two of them taken while they were third-grade classmates at Noelani Elementary School, requesting an autograph more than six months ago. He recently received the autographed picture back, as well as a personally signed thank-you note.
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The tallest kid in school, black, in a crowd of mostly tiny Japanese-ancestry kids would have stood out, and could easily have been remembered. And I do remember plenty of my 3rd-grade classmates, the quality of memory is not uniform.
also a digital watch.
It looks much like a 35mm frame.
Any decent 35mm of the period could easily have made this.
The other kid doesn’t look a bit Indonesian, he looks very Japanese. He could be Chinese, possibly, and there are plenty of Chinese in Indonesia, but I would bet against it.
Obama was supposedly in a Catholic school in Indonesia, so they could certainly have made Christmas pictures.
“He had even forgotten they attended kindergarten together until he saw a 1967 class photo in Hawaii Business magazine last year. “
KINDERGARTEN???? Kindergarten is for kids around 5 years old, not 8 years old. I think I missed something. Can anyone here help me???
That picture was not to long after his two front permanent teeth came in.
McCain is not NBC otherwise there would have been legal challenges to his status and the Senate would not have pass resolution 511, declaring him to be such. 511 carries no weight of law or enforcement and is only a collective opinion of the Senate.
“Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities are not part of the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A child born on the premises of such a facility is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of birth...
Additionally, sections 301309 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (restated in sections 14011409 of Title 8 of the United States Code), current U.S. law defines numerous other categories of individuals born abroad, as well as people born in most U.S. territories and possessions, as being “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth”. The phrase “natural born citizen,” however, does not appear in the current statutes dealing with citizenship at birth.
Moreover, Barry O. was born to one American Citizen, who under statutes at that time could not confer citizenship status.
His real age and birth location are in question as is his current citizenship status and even his proper and legal name.
I just noticed that kid has what looks like a birthmark between his brows. In one picture it appears to go well up his forehead. (1/2 down In white shirt and tie)
What we know as fact about obama could fill a 3x5 index card.
Barry O. is as lefthanded as he is a lefty. The grip is correct.
Obama was born Aug. 4 1961, so would have been 5 for most of 1967.
Darn right. No one wants to claim him, they have to drag people out of the shadows and make up some silly story to pacify the masses.
“Ok, let’s say he spent part of a year in HI in the third grade in 1969. Why does this guy remember him? Photographic memory? Everyone that remembers someone in your 3rd grade class that attended for only part of the year raise your hand. “
Only black kid in an all Japanese school would trigger a memory quicker than most of us and our childhood.
It just gets curiouser and curiouser. Recently I was referrred to Snopes (always trustworthy, God knows!) about the doctor who supposedly delivered young Whateverhisnameis.
Snopes quotes Barbara Nelson, former teacher at the Punahou school who claims to have been friends with the daughter of the OB, a Dr. West, who delivered BHO. She claims to remember the (late) OB’s speaking of the child’s musical name, Barrack Heussein Obama, at the time of his birth. Said teacher then goes on to recount later thaat her 10 year old student’s father, Barrack Heussein Obama, returned to the school to speak that year. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp
I haven’t read either of BHO’s books, but I thought that not only was BHO in Indonesia till age 11, but that the story was that his father left him and his mother when he was two years old and that he didn’t see him again in his life except once, when he was a legal adult.
Too many people seem to want to have their ‘brush with history,’ while his true life story is to be concealed at all costs.
I would just have to ask: If you check out the photos at the link below and compare them to his alleged third grade photo, then what happened to his eyebrows in third grade? Seriously, there is a big difference.
Those are not pictures of Barack Hussien Obama. Just some kid named after him.
The photo in question was supposedly taken in third grade.
A gap like that can close when larger permanent molars (or even wisdom teeth) erupt. Teeth move easily.
Those are not Barack Obama.
I’m just as confused as you are. I don’t know if he meant they went to Kindergarten AND third grade or what.
“I havent read either of BHOs books, but I thought that not only was BHO in Indonesia till age 11, but that the story was that his father left him and his mother when he was two years old and that he didnt see him again in his life except once, when he was a legal adult.”
No, his father came back when Obama was 10 (the picture in the airport) but not to see his son, for a University Reunion and Ann Dunham tracked him down in the airport for a few minutes. Great father, eh?
Thanks....so Barry was in kindergarten with the kid in the picture according to the good doctor’s class picture...and then later we see BO in that 3rd grade 1969 picture with the kid destined to be a doctor?
This is very unusual, isnt it, for people who supposedly actually knew BHO to be coming forward with their I-knew- him-when stories? Certainly seems very contradictory of his authorized auto/biographies/fairy tales.
IMO, these are the same. The left ears are identical as well as the hairline. Also, an identical dimple in the left cheek.
THanks. Exactly. But my latest impression is that the doctor is saying that he did go to both kindergarten AND 3rd grade with BHO. That seems to be very counter to the approved fictions which we are supposed to take as his official autobiographies of his whereabouts during that time.
Was the letter signed using the Russian “|O|”???
That is not him.
It’s hard to keep up with what is being passed off as BO’s childhood and childhood friends.
Was he even born to SADO or did she just *find* him and bring him home...her home? what home? where is home? This is really making me crazy. Aspirin???
This story is fabricated, folks. Need it to fight the tide of lawsuits. We now know why Obama's made so many trips to Hawaii- to hunt down willing accomplices in the farce that is his presidency.
I decomposed this photo at this post here, on the long thread back in July of last year. You should also look at the hundred or so posts before it to see the other photos being referenced.
That "San Francisco" sign looks like a wall banner from this angle, but it is really a ticket-counter sign hanging from the pole seen in the left of the photo.
I’d still like to hear him whistle.
Yes they are both Barack Hussien Obama. I just said the one where he was toothless was just before his two front teeth came in.
Thanks. Always pays to ask :-)
Good find on the toothless pic btw.
well, i guess it is.
1. 1967: Barack is “Soetoro” in Indonesia school.
2. 1969: Barack is “Obama” in Hawaii, according to the photo and story we see in this thread.
3. 1971: Barack is back to “Soetoro” in Indonesia.
4. If the above statements are true, that is even stronger evidence that we need to see Obama’s long form Hawaii birth certificate and his Occidental College in California records as soon as possible, because it seems that with each passing day, we find out more and more that this Obama person is not who he says he is.
We have contemporaneous testimony and evidence from multiple sources that Stanley Ann moved to Seattle with a newborn multi-racial baby in September of 1961.
“there are plenty of Chinese in Indonesia...”
Well, yeah, since the Indonesians are Chinese.
Indonesia is also the largest Muslim county in the world.
Because Barry was the only "black" kid in the class...and perhaps even the entire school?
The cropping is not how the photo really is, see this
I think the size is not unusual, compared to many Asians Obama would normally be larger at that age.
I may be wrong, but the majority of Indonesians don't consider themselves Chinese.
As I understand it, Chinese and Indonesians in Indonesia don't always like each other, and their differences often leads to violent clashes.
Agreed. Especially if the other kid was born in late spring or early summer...would be nearly a year younger coupled with their ethnic differences, can easily account for the significant difference is size. I'll bet Barry is STILL quite a bit taller than Mr. Scott Inoue.
“Barry” has a different chin in this photo than in ANY of those in your link.
And Barak (today) somehow got that orignal chin back after this third grade photo was taken.
My opinion? Different kid in the “1969” phot.
Also: isn’t there a different ink and notation and “re-write” of the inscribed “Barry” lettering on the bottom of the thrid-grade photo?
“I may be wrong, but the majority of Indonesians don’t consider themselves Chinese.”
They all migrated from China, but they came in waves. Of course the earliest settlers think of themselves as different—but you and I don’t have to.
They are also a source of pirates in the region and the South China sea, and are a menace to Australia’s fishing industy.
Still, their Beef Rendang is out of this world.
The Star Bulletin article is from today. Perhaps they got the initial story from WJ? Would be interesting if the S.B. run's this pic/story today if the WJ story is much older.
Have you ever written on those types of photos? They don’t take pen well. It’s quite possible the mother switched pens after writing the first name since obviously it wasn’t taking too well. It’s an old photo. It looks like it was smeared a little or something got dripped on it.
The kid looks the same as he does in his other childhood photos. What’s most interesting about this is the date conflict. Obviously Obama was not in Indonesia when he says he was.
Yes, I have written on them.
And a ballpoint pen doesn’t smear and over-write like that - not does a fountain pen. I’d like to see the original to see the impression(s) under the ink.
I’ve scanned a fair number of old black and white photos to digital. The scanner can be set to scan the photo as a very large image. What I usually do to increase the crispness / quality of the old image is to reduce the size (say from 3000 plus pixels horizontally to 640 pixels) but will set a high resolution such as 300 dpi, minimum print quality, for the photo before I use another program to create a jpg for the web. In the process of creating a jpeg, you can retain a high resolution or reduce it at that point. Either way, it produces a very crisp or vastly improved image. The photo of Barry and the kid is fairly high res. It has 200 pixels per inch whereas the usual jpeg has 72.
(Sorry if this turns out to be repeat info by the time I finish reading the thread. If I don’t comment now, I’ll end up not doing so.)
Still doesn’t wash. There were probably more black kids in this guys classes later in life. Did he remember those to? I think the photo is a phony. Name 1 classmate in your 3rd grade class who only attended part of the year.
Looks like Barry had his hand in that position on the outer, rounded part of the kid’s shoulder and then the kid leaned into BO. Maybe he lost his balance after being pulled in closer by BO at the request of the photographer. Barry’s hand had not caught up to the kid’s new position when the photo was taken.