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Third-grade photo capture's [sic] Obama's grin (3rd grade in Hawaii?)
Honolulu Star Bulletin ^ | 01:30 a.m. HST, Dec 28, 2009 | Patt Gee

Posted on 12/28/2009 8:19:31 AM PST by Ready4Freddy

Edited on 12/29/2009 12:28:18 PM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

A former Manoa resident sent President Barack Obama an old photo of the two of them taken while they were third-grade classmates at Noelani Elementary School, requesting an autograph more than six months ago. He recently received the autographed picture back, as well as a personally signed thank-you note.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barack; barry; birthcertificate; certifigate; hawaii; noelani; noelanielementary; obama
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To: Ready4Freddy

So is it important for the state run media to cover this? Must be. I wonder why? I thought the BC deal was all hot air to begin with?


51 posted on 12/28/2009 9:16:54 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Long Island Pete

i agree. doesn’t look anything like him.


52 posted on 12/28/2009 9:20:38 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Ready4Freddy

The kid is adorable. I really don’t see any resemblance.


53 posted on 12/28/2009 9:21:25 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: jazminerose
BO was 10 when mom dumped him in HI. Perhaps he’s just really stupid & still in the 3d grade at age 10.

I never thought of that. Looking at the picture and my son, who was in the 3rd grade last year, and my daughter in the second grade, Barry does look a little old for the third grade.

54 posted on 12/28/2009 9:28:03 AM PST by sportutegrl (I was for Sarah Palin before being for Sarah was cool.)
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To: ridesthemiles
Bernadette Dorn

Who dat?

55 posted on 12/28/2009 9:33:48 AM PST by drubyfive
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To: napscoordinator
I don’t know but I don’t think everything needs to be political. I think this is kinda cool.

Well, yes, it's cool and cuddly.

Unfortunately, it contradicts Obama's own autobiography, as well as multiple biographies, in which he says he attended grades first through 4th in Indonesia, and didn't move back to Hawaii until he was in 5th grade.

It makes a difference, not only in his veracity, but in his boastful insistence that those years in Indonesia gave him some deep and penetrating insight through his immersion in Muslim culture. And yet, according to third grade classmate Scott Inoue:

"Widely published biographies say Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967 through 1971, and none mention his third-grade year at Noelani, Inoue acknowledges. But he said Obama attended at least part of his third-grade year at Noelani in 1969, perhaps during a visit back to Hawaii, and moved away."

As they say in court, it goes to credibility, something that is in short supply with this administration.

56 posted on 12/28/2009 9:35:32 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: pillut48

B&W used in child portraiture, odd that it’s not color. This would be an economy move.
Tight cropping, too. That’s not easily done using a viewfinder.
Taking both into account, this suggests a shutterbug hobbyist of the era, with a home darkroom.


57 posted on 12/28/2009 9:44:40 AM PST by Stalwart
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To: Ready4Freddy; Velveeta; Smokeyblue; STE=Q; rocco55; thouworm; rxsid; GOPJ; Fred Nerks; ...
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Check out article, photo, and #'s 26, 33, 44, 50, 56.

[Thanks Velveeta, and SmokeyBlue.]

58 posted on 12/28/2009 9:48:56 AM PST by LucyT
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To: Long Island Pete
I agree.--"It doesnt look anything like him. The ears are too small."

What and where is this? Is this a red herring thrown into the mix.

vaudine

59 posted on 12/28/2009 9:57:52 AM PST by vaudine
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To: Long Island Pete
"It doesnt look anything like him. The ears are too small.

His ears grow with each lie he tells. Just like Pinochio's nose.


60 posted on 12/28/2009 10:15:02 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: ridesthemiles

No, there is no reason for the mom to write the wrong info on the picture. The ‘69 date is probably accurate. The kid in the pic has his adult front teeth but it looks like the rest are baby teeth. That fits for an 8 year old 3rd grader. I’m not too worried about the mole because as we get older our ears and nose grows and things start popping up on us for no apparent reason. But that still doesn’t speak to the dates he was supposedly in Indonesia. Yes, he is completely fictitious.


61 posted on 12/28/2009 10:16:54 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: gussiefinknottle
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62 posted on 12/28/2009 10:17:21 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: Ready4Freddy

I came across this photo in early October 2009 at this site:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255

It struck me as really strange then because of the date since this was when he was supposed to be in school in Indonesia. He was said to have attended the Catholic School, Fransiskus Strada Asisia, from 1967-1970 (3rd Grade). His teacher has been identified as Fermina Katarina Sinaga. The Christmas art made me think that this was taken at the Catholic school. I was struck by how big 0 is compared to the other boy but often children of Chinese/Japanese background are often smaller. The 1st grade teacher at the Catholic school has been quoted as describing 0 as being “exceptionally tall”. Now that this photo has been identified as originating in Hawaii, I am quite baffled. I wonder where the above link, westernjournalism got it from prior to October.


63 posted on 12/28/2009 10:19:49 AM PST by Albertafriend
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To: Ready4Freddy; ExTexasRedhead; sheik yerbouty; ml/nj; SunkenCiv; RobinMasters; Clintonfatigued; ...
One thing we do know about O is that he was in Indonesia between ages 6 and 10. Plus, the other kid in the photo can pass for Indonesian. However, if you look carefully, you will see Christmas posters in the background, which wouldn't be likely in Indonesia. So was this Photoshopped?
64 posted on 12/28/2009 10:21:33 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Long Island Pete

Did Barry ever wear braces? He looks to have a gap in his teeth.


65 posted on 12/28/2009 10:24:12 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: justiceseeker93

He was in a Catholic school in Indonesia apparently, so there could have been Christmas posters. And the other kid could be Chinese as well as Japanese, and there are plenty of Chinese in Indonesia. He does not look Indonesian at all btw.

But the provenance of the picture is clearly Hawaiian, not Indonesian, requiring an explanation. My guess is he didn’t stay in Indonesia till 1970, but 1969. The picture is obviously from late 1969.


66 posted on 12/28/2009 10:26:04 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Ready4Freddy

He looks like Malcolm X here.


67 posted on 12/28/2009 10:27:31 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Everything related to Zero has been cleansed. By whom? Why? How man perps involved? Whose trying to expose it? If no one, why not?

Questions, questions, questions; meanwhile we’re headed for the toilet.


68 posted on 12/28/2009 10:31:00 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: Ready4Freddy

That doesn’t look like Bozo to me. So, wasn’t he supposed to be in Indonesia at this age?


69 posted on 12/28/2009 10:31:50 AM PST by calex59
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To: pillut48
>Not professional photogs of the day--even their best cameras didn't have that 'polished' digital appearance...certainly not the teacher's camera,<

Not necessarily. Brownie cameras could produce pretty nice prints:


70 posted on 12/28/2009 10:36:09 AM PST by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Well, let me ask...does the article come complete with an adult photo of Inoue? If so, could the boy Inoue be ‘age’ progressed (to see if he looks similar to the real live age progression.) Then do the same with ‘Barry.’

Something just isn’t right here.


71 posted on 12/28/2009 10:43:07 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (What's the difference between Santa and Tiger Woods? Santa stops at three ho's...)
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To: ridesthemiles; jazminerose; LucyT
"BO was 10 when mom dumped him in HI. Perhaps he’s just really stupid & still in the 3d grade at age 10.”

"NObama was born in August of 1961.
Age 10 would have pushed that to 1971."

"Kids in pic are supposed to be 1969."

How do we really know Obama was born in 1961? All we have is a Certification of Birth and his books saying he was. He is still hiding the real long form BC.

I think the reason Barack Hussien Obama is so much taller then the rest of the kids is because he is OLDER then they are. Just think if this picture is real and I think it is, he would have been born before Hawaii became a state. Say he was born August 4th, 1959. Not in 1961 like they try to say he is.

On August 21, 1959, Hawaii was admitted into the union as the 50th state.

We have a president who is not a citizen of the U.S.

I got to thinking a couple of days ago when someone in the media mentioned that Barack Obama instead of working on the Health Care Bill turned it over to Congress. Why would he do that? Because Nancy Pelosi falsified the papers for him saying he was eligible for office of President by eliminating the part that says he was legal under the Constitution. She told him I will do this if you turn the Health Care over to me as this is going to be my baby.

72 posted on 12/28/2009 10:45:08 AM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: Ready4Freddy; LucyT; BIGLOOK; Fred Nerks; Danae; BP2
When Obama decided to run for president, Inoue had his mother dig up the photo and sent an enlarged copy to Obama's senatorial office in Illinois with a request for his autograph. There was no response. He tried again after the inauguration, and several months later an envelope from the White House arrived.

Still cleaning up the records, I guess, needed to batten down the hatches, this inconvenient little bit of the past seeps out BEFORE the election, can't have anything disrupting the narrative, IGNORE it.

My comments on this very strange photo:

Widely published biographies say Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967 through 1971, and none mention his third-grade year at Noelani, Inoue acknowledges. But he said Obama attended at least part of his third-grade year at Noelani in 1969, perhaps during a visit back to Hawaii, and moved away.

That sounds weird, to take a kid out of school mid-year.

"He was a lot taller than me; he towered above most of us. I don't know why I remember that photo, but maybe it's because he had one of those personalities. Possibly because he was the only African-American" in a school predominantly attended by Japanese, Inoue said.

1. Age and size of the kid on the right. BO (if that's him, it looks like him) is WAY older than the other kid.

2. Held back? At that time, in the 1960s, kids weren't as likely to be "socially promoted" and it was not unusual to find older kids in a class who had been held back at least a year. Speaking from my own childhood: there were at least a couple of kids in my grade school classes who had been held back.

3. Body language. The kid on the left (the young Mr. Inoue) looks a bit uncomfortable and is gamely smiling for the camera but is not showing any teeth. Note the position of the hand of the boy on the right (BO). He's not placing his outstretched palm on Mr. Inoue's shoulder, he's placing the side of his wrist instead and looks like he's attempting to encircle his neck! (No wonder Mr. Inoue looks a bit apprehensive.)

4. Dentition. My teeth were similar to BO's teeth--when I was about NINE years old. Your mileage may vary.

73 posted on 12/28/2009 10:46:59 AM PST by thecodont
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To: buwaya

Might it have been taken on a Yashika? They were very high quality and popular at the time.


74 posted on 12/28/2009 10:47:09 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pillut48

http://www.rollingstone.com/photos/gallery/19066990/barack_obama_a_photo_history/

Good collection of childhood pictures for comparison.


75 posted on 12/28/2009 10:47:51 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Ready4Freddy; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; SatinDoll; patriot08; cripplecreek; RobinMasters; firebrand; ..
On second thought, if the posted photo is real, maybe O wasn't in Indonesia all that time between ages six and ten. That wouldn't be the only alleged fact in his "official" biography that has been shown to be false. And if he did attend public school in the third grade in Hawaii, yet another school record would be missing.

So, speaking of missing records, where is that long form birth certificate, the one that could well determine if he qualifies for POTUS under the US Constitution?

76 posted on 12/28/2009 10:49:29 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: ladyjane; LucyT
Thanks for the ping, Lucy T.

Obama must have had braces since then.

The gap between my front teeth closed on it's own when my molars came in and pushed my teeth together. No braces required.

77 posted on 12/28/2009 10:49:52 AM PST by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: Darnright

Nice picture, but still missing the ‘crispness’ of the alleged Barry pic, IMO.


78 posted on 12/28/2009 10:52:18 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: Ready4Freddy

Odd position of Obmas hand....wonder if there is a way to tell if it’s photoshopped?


79 posted on 12/28/2009 10:53:12 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Spunky
On August 21, 1959, Hawaii was admitted into the union as the 50th state.M

You know, while I firmly believe there is something wrong with Bozo's BC, this isn't it. It doesn't matter if HI was a state or not, it was a territory of the USA and therefore anyone born there was a citizen. To keep pushing that BS is just that, BS. Keep things on a real level, go after him on real issues, was he born in HI or Indonesia. If Indonesia he is not a citizen, if HI he is, regardless of the year he was actually born.

According to you everyone born in a Territory back in the 1800s was not a citizen, which would have made most of the residents of the USA non citizens. That is simply BS, period.

80 posted on 12/28/2009 10:53:26 AM PST by calex59
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To: Stalwart

The picture has been cropped digitally. It was not a tight shot. There is suppose to be note on the front, at the bottom, inscribed by Scott’s mother.

Here is the complete picture, scroll down:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255


81 posted on 12/28/2009 10:53:35 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: pillut48

LOL I still have one of those! I got it for Christmas when I was 12.


82 posted on 12/28/2009 10:55:31 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Ready4Freddy

This just gets stranger every day...he looks a lot older than the other kid...


83 posted on 12/28/2009 10:56:38 AM PST by surfer
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Ready4Freddy; sheik yerbouty; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; All
Re photos in # 47:

In the photo on the left, young Obama has the wrong grip on the bat: supposedly swinging righthanded, his left hand is above the right. Well, at least he never claimed to be much of a baseball player, or did he?

In the photo on the right, the child's skin looks too dark to be Obama.

84 posted on 12/28/2009 10:57:53 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: thecodont
Widely published biographies say Obama lived in Indonesia from 1967 through 1971, and none mention his third-grade year at Noelani, Inoue acknowledges. But he said Obama attended at least part of his third-grade year at Noelani in 1969, perhaps during a visit back to Hawaii, and moved away.

Ok, let's say he spent part of a year in HI in the third grade in 1969. Why does this guy remember him? Photographic memory? Everyone that remembers someone in your 3rd grade class that attended for only part of the year raise your hand.

I have an excellent memory and remember most of my school mates from about the 6th grade on, at least the ones I liked, and I remember a few back in the 1st through 5th grades, but they were kids I went to school with a long time, not a part of a year.

I would not put it past Bozo to have set this whole thing up himself. The picture looks phony to me, the kid really doesn't look like Bozo except that he obviously has African ancestry somewhere in his past.

85 posted on 12/28/2009 10:58:59 AM PST by calex59
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To: Ready4Freddy

His mother left him in Indonesia while she went off to work. I read this little blip a couple months ago. I thought that Barry stayed with his step dad. Maybe he came home. Nothing was said in that article where he went when Mom packed up and left to go several hours away to work with village women.


86 posted on 12/28/2009 11:00:51 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: calex59

So if someone from Guam or Puerto Rico wanted to run for President and actually won, would you accept them as President?

They are territories and not states.


87 posted on 12/28/2009 11:02:20 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Interesting. Some of THOSE pics look photoshopped to me as well!

Here's a pic that allegedly shows "Barack Obama pictured with his father, Barack Obama Sr., in the early 1970s."

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Compare to this:
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IMO, that's not the same kid!
88 posted on 12/28/2009 11:02:29 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: justiceseeker93

Kid on the left in 47 looks like Bozo, you can tell it is him, the one on the right looks a lot like him also but as you say is darker skinned, that could be explained by the sun. The photo that is the topic of this thread does NOT look like Bozo and you can’t tell it is him, if you didn’t know you would never guess it was Bozo. I think it is not.


89 posted on 12/28/2009 11:02:29 AM PST by calex59
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To: maggief; Fred Nerks
This is the first time I have seen a wide shot of this scene. See the "San Francisco" sign? I wonder if

1. All San Francisco flights used the same gate
2. Such signs were the norm at the airport in Hawaii back then
3. The picture was taken in the San Franciso airport and I am the only one who did not know. (best odds, LOL!)

Not earth shattering. I just like to know which is correct.

90 posted on 12/28/2009 11:02:31 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Albertafriend

Interesting. His right hand doesn’t look normal (as in a photo of a buddy)


91 posted on 12/28/2009 11:05:18 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Vendome
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92 posted on 12/28/2009 11:05:26 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: Ready4Freddy

http://www.spotonce.com/Political-News/barack-obama-childhood-pictures—obama-childhood-snaps/

Here are some pictures I have not seen before.


93 posted on 12/28/2009 11:06:11 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Vendome
Yes, they are territories, they are citizens of the US, they can vote in our elections, and do, because they are citizens. Where did you ever get the idea that people born in territories were not citizens. Every state in the Union after the 13 original colonies, were territories at one time, all of the residents could vote because all of the residents were citizens, and natural born citizens at that. If a Puerto Rican ran for President they would be eligible.

If you are going to ban people born in territories you had better include McCain because he was born in the territory of Panama(it was at the time).

94 posted on 12/28/2009 11:06:54 AM PST by calex59
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To: Vendome

Any decent 35mm/127/120/620 camera of the period could have taken just as nice a shot. It looks like f/8. Pre-focus accurately, tell the kids to stand on a line, and you could have taken just as sharp a photo with an Argus C3 “brick”, I have.


95 posted on 12/28/2009 11:13:38 AM PST by buwaya
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To: pillut48

What am I looking for? the link only goes to the home, not the picture I suspect you are directing me to.


96 posted on 12/28/2009 11:15:00 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

The child is wearing velcro sandals. Velcro didn’t come out till late 70’s?


97 posted on 12/28/2009 11:16:24 AM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Look at the mouth. He has the same large mouth in this last picture that he has now. The original picture, the child’s mouth is not that big.


98 posted on 12/28/2009 11:16:48 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Vendome
Sorry, forgot to add the source. It's the 4th photo in --Source
99 posted on 12/28/2009 11:16:52 AM PST by pillut48 ("Stand now. Stand together. Stand for what is right."-Gov.Sarah Palin, "Going Rogue")
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To: calex59

But, are they Natural Born Citizens?


100 posted on 12/28/2009 11:17:25 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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