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Rough sea for yachtsmen under Maine use-tax law
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| 27 Dec 2009
| Clarke Canfield
Posted on 12/28/2009 11:10:09 AM PST by AreaMan
Sunday, December 27, 2009
Rough sea for yachtsmen under Maine use-tax law
30 days in port triggers levy on boats from away

Tom Toye poses at a marina in Portland, Maine. Toye has sued the state over a $60,000 use tax bill for a 72-foot yacht he bought in Florida and brought to Maine. (THE ASSOCIATED PRESS)
By Clarke Canfield THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

PORTLAND, Maine
A retired Maine businessman thought he was helping the local economy in 2005 when he spent more than $100,000 in Portland on repairs to his 72-foot luxury yacht, newly purchased in Florida. Now hes feeling cheated.
More than a year later, Tom Toye III received a $60,000 bill from Maine Revenue Services for so-called use taxes on the boat.
Toye appealed and later sued the state tax assessor, claiming the vessel shouldnt be taxed in Maine. Earlier this month, he lost his case in Maine Superior Court. With interest and penalties accruing, he says the bill has grown to about $120,000.
Im just infuriated about the whole thing, said Toye, who is considering an appeal to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court. Maine Revenue Services says boat owners must pay a use tax of up to 5 percent if they bought their boat in another state that doesnt require sales taxes for boats, brought it into Maine within the first year of ownership, and had it available to use for at least 30 days.
Aircraft owners complain that Maine sends out similar tax bills sometimes exceeding $100,000 on their planes. The judge in Toyes case also ruled in favor of the state on two cases involving aircraft owners.
Maine Revenue Services says its simply doing its job: collecting taxes.
But critics claim the tax and the strict enforcement are having a chilling effect on boaters and discouraging tourism at a time when the states economy needs help.
Some out-of-state boaters are steering clear of Maines rocky coast and picturesque harbors, which in turn hurts local grocery stores, restaurants, repair yards and other businesses that benefit from boaters, said Micah Peabody, general manager of Dysarts Great Harbor Marina in Southwest Harbor.
Word is starting to spread that Maine is unfriendly to yachtsmen, Peabody said.
Thereve been reports of tax agents in row boats photographing visiting boats. Peabody says 10 or 12 boats have stayed away from his marina alone in the past couple years for fear of getting huge tax bills.
About three or four years ago, the state began cracking down on boat owners. Tax officials examined marina records, talked to harbormasters and dispatched agents to harbors to take notes and photographs of out-of-state boats, said Errol Dearborn, director of compliance for Maine Revenue Services.
While the stepped-up enforcement coincides with a sour economy and weak tax collections, officials say it is not tied to the recession.
Its an equity thing, Dearborn insisted. We enforce the law, and the law is to protect Maine businesses that do sell watercraft.
Use taxes are substitute sales taxes collected on virtually anything boats, planes, cars, snowmobiles, even books on the Internet bought in states where sales taxes arent assessed and brought to Maine to be used. In fiscal year 2009, the state collected $75.8 million in use taxes; how much came from boat levies isnt known because the state doesnt break the use taxes down by category, said Jerome Gerard, the Maine tax assessor.
Other states that have sales taxes also impose use taxes. But laws and enforcement vary on boat purchases, said Margaret Podlich of the Boat Owners Association of the Unites States, a 500,000-member organization based in Alexandria, Va.
BOATUS has heard members complain recently about increased collection efforts on all types of taxes in New York, Maryland and North Carolina, she said.
The bottom line is, states are trying to ensure youre paying taxes, she said. Were definitely seeing a trend that the states are being more vigilant about tracking visiting boaters and figuring out who is triggering these time limits and taxing them.
Toye, with homes in Cape Elizabeth, Maine, and Miami Beach, Fla., purchased his boat in December 2004, renamed it October Princess and brought it to Maine in May 2005. He kept the vessel at a marina in South Portland and it underwent renovations at a Portland shipyard.
The boat was in Maine for nearly five months before Toye took it south in October 2005. Months later, the state of Maine delivered Toye the surprise tax bill for nearly $60,000.
In his suit, Toye claimed his boat wasnt in Maine for recreational cruising, but for repairs. The state said the boat sat at the marina most of the time and that Toye twice took it for trips up the coast trips Toye says were sea trials to test the boats repairs.
Other boat owners have gotten similar shocks.
Jim McHutchinson of St. Michaels, Md., bought a 36-foot powerboat in 2007 and brought it to Maine for several weeks that summer. When he went home at seasons end, he left the 18-year-old boat in a Southwest Harbor marina.
His use tax levy and penalties: $11,000.
McHutchinson thinks he was unfairly targeted by Maine tax officials. He points out that the law says a boat can be taxed if it was available for use in Maine for more than 30 days, but says he was in Maine for only 27 days even if his boat was here for longer.
I think its zeroing in on visitors to Maine and trying to cure, in small steps, some of the financial problems the state has by picking on people who have assets that are movable and trapping them in Maine, he said.
Aircraft owners complain about similar tax bills sometimes exceeding $100,000 on their planes.
Jon Block, a Portland tax attorney, plans to appeal last weeks two aircraft cases to the Maine Supreme Judicial Court. Block thinks the aircraft cases will have a bearing on boat owners even if Toye doesnt appeal his case.
I think theyre all going to rise or fall with the aircraft cases that are being appealed, Block said. They all hinge on the same arguments.
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: boating; business; maine; taxes
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:10:10 AM PST
by
AreaMan
To: AreaMan
Solution, if you just *have* to harbor in Maine, is to have your captain or first mate sail your boat to Portsmouth for a day or two when you get up to 27 or 28 days. If your craft is smaller, or not crewed, pull it out of the water, or move it yourself. If you have a small pleasure boat, don’t go to Maine.
Actually, that last would probably be better for all. Kennebunk harbor, Falmouth Foreside, and the rest are picturesque, but there are other anchorages.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:16:18 AM PST
by
Little Pig
(Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
To: AreaMan
Because of the populism that infecting the US currently - which should be viewed as a bad thing by conservatives - this story won't garner much sympathy, which is too bad. While the rich and mega-wealthy are the owners of yachts, it's the middle class that build them, service them, supply them, fix them and staff them.
This is yet another industry in the long list of industries that have fallen victim to populism and class-envy run amok. It has all but entirely destroyed the US ship building industry, and it keeps owners of mega-yachts, who can literally spend millions of dollars while in port - away from America's coastal resort towns. It's leftist stupidity on full display.
To: AreaMan
The lesson to be learned here is to avoid at all costs any liberal state.
There was a story a while back about Woody Hayes, the football coach at Ohio State. He hated Michigan and would not spend a dime there. Including pushing his out of gas car across the border into Ohio before filling the tank.
I think Woody had it right.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:17:21 AM PST
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
To: AreaMan
What idiots. This will really help tax revenues when everyone moves their boats elsewhere and stop spending tourist dollars.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:18:23 AM PST
by
poobear
To: AreaMan
This is nothing new in Maine--most New England states have "tax your neighbor" rules, and with Maine having the highest state/local tax burden in the nation, people are leaving in droves, meaning the pols in Augusta are turning to the only place they can--tourists.
And meanwhile, here in NH, they come over here and tell us how wonderful they have it as they fill up our stores and stock up on tax-free items.
6
posted on
12/28/2009 11:19:41 AM PST
by
OCCASparky
(Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
To: OldDeckHand
I’m old enough to remember how the Luxury Tax passed under the Carter Administration literally destroyed the boat building industry in Michigan.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:19:41 AM PST
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: AreaMan
Another reason to avoid Maine, besides it’s two leftist Senators.
8
posted on
12/28/2009 11:20:08 AM PST
by
caver
(Obama's first goals: allow more killing of innocents and allow the killers of innocents to go free.)
To: AreaMan
Easy enough, stay out of Maine. There is really nothing much there you can’t find in NH.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:22:12 AM PST
by
muir_redwoods
(Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
To: Lurker
I remember that too. My best friend’s mom worked for Searay Boats in Oxford, MI. She and so many others lost their jobs when Searay closed up shop.
I wonder if Maine will extend this tax to include those huge “land yachts”...the big RV’s on bus frames that get 1.5MPG and have satellite dishes. Those things can cost into the six digits and they could be yet another source of revenue. /half sarc
10
posted on
12/28/2009 11:26:18 AM PST
by
Kieri
(The Conservatrarian)
To: AreaMan
You vote in Communists, you get a Communist economy.
Flee.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:26:45 AM PST
by
IrishCatholic
(No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
To: AreaMan
The idiots in Augusta will lose revenue not gain it from this tax scheme. The word is already out among boaters to avoid Maine and the local businesses will suffer because fewer boats will enter Maine harbors and pay these confiscatory taxes. In some ways this tax could be seen as a tariff blocking interstate commerce.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:28:22 AM PST
by
The Great RJ
("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
To: Lurker
"Im old enough to remember how the Luxury Tax passed under the Carter Administration literally destroyed the boat building industry in Michigan." I'm the owner of a sailboat that we keep in FL, and spend most of our time on in the winter, while living in OH during the summer. This story illustrates the EXACT reason why we don't sail our boat up to Ohio for at least part of the year - the OH department of taxation does the same thing. They will send agents to the local marinas looking for boats registered out of state so that they can send use tax bills.
Who loses? The marina operator, the restaurants, the laborers and riggers and college kids looking to make a few bucks crewing in the summer. People that don't think taxes kill jobs, are either retarded or willfully ignorant.
To: OCCASparky
I live on the Maine boarder, as you know, I have relitives there, I refuse to cross the damned State Line. They made their bed let them sleep in it. Maines principle export is its youth.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:34:50 AM PST
by
Little Bill
(Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
To: AreaMan
Mainers are sissies......look who they vote for!!
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:35:05 AM PST
by
PALIN SMITH
(Show them our respectable contempt!)
To: Kieri
"I wonder if Maine will extend this tax to include those huge land yachts...the big RVs on bus frames that get 1.5MPG and have satellite dishes. Those things can cost into the six digits and they could be yet another source of revenue. /half sarc"I believe your post just turned the little lightbulb on over a whole bunch of bureaucrats living in Maine.
A lot of people visit there and stay in one over the summer, and most will go anywhere in the country to buy one if they can get a deal on it. I see no difference between those and a yacht at all to tax collectors.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:37:18 AM PST
by
Abathar
(Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
To: Kieri; OldDeckHand
Bingo to you both. And it's not like they destroyed the lower tier offerings in the industry. No, they had to take out the cream of the crop, SeaRay and ChrisCraft.
Once the industries had been destroyed the 'tax' was quietly repealed. But the damage had been done. I'm quite sure that was the intent all along.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:38:31 AM PST
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: AreaMan
Does anyone else have a problem with the fact that the state can tell exactly how many boating trips someone took?!!!!
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:40:25 AM PST
by
mo
To: OCCASparky
I have family in Milton, NH and you can walk across to Maine. The folks over there did all their shopping in Milton. And, the Lakes do great tourism business.
My Mom is from near Bath, Me. and I love it there, but if I lived in Maine and needed any big ticket items, I would go to New Hampshire. Well, we lived in Vermont and did the same. The Canadians used to come down in droves!
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:41:18 AM PST
by
ozaukeemom
(Is it 2012 yet?)
To: Lurker
Unfortunately, the tax was passed in about 1990 or 1991
when George H.W. Bush was president. The tax also applied to luxury automobiles and privately owned airplanes.
To: Little Bill
C’mon Bill, we shop and stomp a lot of the same places. Go to the Market Basket on Milton Road any given Saturday, but particularly the 1st Saturday of the month and count the Maine plates. Ditto with the Wally World between Rochester and Farmington, or the one in Dover.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:48:35 AM PST
by
OCCASparky
(Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
To: Maine Mariner
Unfortunately, the tax was passed in about 1990 or 1991 when George H.W. Bush was president. True Bush the Elder signed it, but if you recall at the time both the House and Senate were run by Dems. Not that I'm excusing Bush for signing it. I just think it's important to remember who was in charge of the Legislative Branch at the time.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:51:07 AM PST
by
Lurker
(The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
To: OldDeckHand
>> Because of the
populism that infecting the US currently - which should be viewed as a bad thing by conservatives ...
Amen! Research time: Google up "Argentina economy" and "Nestor Kirchner" to see the effects of populism.
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posted on
12/28/2009 11:53:00 AM PST
by
QBFimi
(When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
To: Little Pig
To: AreaMan
Stay away from Main AND Cuba. Dangerous waters. Word spreads quickly about this kine of BS.
To: AreaMan
Apparently Gibbons v. Ogden (1824) has been forgotten. My advice: take this to The Federal District Court.
To: Maine Mariner
Nopw wrong BB. It was under Carter. I remember it well.
To: AreaMan
U.S. Constitution
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.
To: Pajama Blogger
Just say no to lobster.
People already have. Lobster prices typically rise in winter as stocks drop due to no fishing and lobster migration. However, they didn't go up in 2008 or 2009. Here in NH, ME, and MA, the boat price for lobster dropped to under $2.35 per pound.
At local grocery stores, chick (1 to 1-1/4lb) lobsters would go for $6-7 per pound. That dropped to $4.50 per pound, and seafood places were charging even less than that. As the lobsters get larger, the per-pound price typically increased--not now. Again, I've purchased 4-5 lb. lobsters in a grocery store, steamed, for under $20.
Up in Nova Scotia, the lobster canneries are sitting on over 4 MILLION POUNDS of frozen unsold lobster tails, waiting for the market price to go up.
Trust me, stuff like this hurts ALL the little guys more than it'll ever hurt the fat-cats in government.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:08:29 PM PST
by
OCCASparky
(Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
To: OCCASparky
I know Maine keeps the taxes in NH down thanks to the new 9% business franchise tax, the kicker to the payroll tax,the meals tax, the rise in the beer tax, the increased cigarette tax and the rise in the gas tax. What I want is an increased Tax on Milwaukee’s Best the State Drink of Maine. Man the cases that I see rolling out of Market Basket on Welfare day could, possibly, hopefully lower my property tax.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:11:28 PM PST
by
Little Bill
(Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
To: ALPAPilot
Problem is, when you maintain residency in both states, which one is primary? Maine has a case, albeit a weak one, and they’re going to push it for every dime they can get.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:12:01 PM PST
by
OCCASparky
(Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
To: PALIN SMITH
Mainers are sissies......look who they vote for!!
As far as toughness goes, I'll put a Downeast Maine native up against just about anyone. We're a pretty rugged bunch.
With respect to our two idiot senators, the overwhelming majority of their votes come from southern Maine... where actual Maine natives are few and far between. The liberal refugees from the worker's paradises of MA, NY, CT and the like are the reason Snowe and Collins get elected.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:13:33 PM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
To: Lurker
You are correct-but it did not help Bush’s re-election chances that is for sure. The tax applied to only new yachts constucted in the US. It did not include yachts built in foreign countries or used yachts. It was one of the worst taxes every conceived.
To: Little Bill
ROFL...yeah, and yet look at where the money in the NH state budget is REALLY going. Bastards. Then again, we could use Meldrim Thomson again. Remember what he did back in the day to the Mass and Maine revenuers who were sitting in the Portsmouth traffic circle, taking down plate numbers?
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:16:35 PM PST
by
OCCASparky
(Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
To: snowrip
Amen—just read a story the other day that NH’s population is about to surpass Maine’s for the first time in over 200 years because of all the people leaving Maine.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:18:12 PM PST
by
OCCASparky
(Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
To: OCCASparky
Yup.
I’m a sixth-generation Maine native, and I’m leaving for NH in the spring. Screw this effing nuthouse. I’ll come up to hunt and fish, for twice the amount of time as usual because I’ll be saving $15,000/year in income taxes alone.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:23:59 PM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
To: OCCASparky
“...which one is primary?”
I would think the one where they are registered to vote. But these days, with ACORN, they could be voting in both.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:27:02 PM PST
by
beelzepug
(This administration is a tagline-rich environment.)
To: Little Bill
Actually, I think the state drink is Allen’s Coffee Brandy, otherwise known as “fight in a cup”.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:27:38 PM PST
by
snowrip
(Liberal? YOU ARE A SOCIALIST WITH NO RATIONAL ARGUMENT.)
To: ALPAPilot
U.S. ConstitutionAhh...that's what the Congress and State houses have been using for toilet paper since I can remember.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:35:15 PM PST
by
AreaMan
To: Abathar
They already have a tax for items such as the ‘land yachts’. The tax on this guys boat is the same one that they use on planes and rv’s. There is a plane case making its way through the courts now.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:36:09 PM PST
by
brooklin
To: screaminsunshine
get your memory into the garage. The luxury tax came to be under Bush1. It almost killed us in the boating industry. It turns out that the wealthy don’t have to buy yachts made in the US.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:38:56 PM PST
by
brooklin
To: OCCASparky
It wasn’t just Meldrim, they busted a few in Plastow back when we had a Non Communist Gov. Back when I was a Kid, before the Mass sales tax, I used to drive my Grannie to Haverhill to visit cousins. Plastow was the vast waste land, as was Seabrook which you are probably more familiar with. The sales tax came in and those places are over run with Massholes. Remember vote no on the four year term for Governor. You have to be able to get at them.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:40:16 PM PST
by
Little Bill
(Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
To: screaminsunshine
One of the really annoying things about the luxury tax, was the senate majority leader at the time was George Mithcell. He wouldn’t listen to us. He was a dufus then and he still is now.
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:41:12 PM PST
by
brooklin
To: snowrip
With Oakhurst Milk if I remember correctly. You can buy a 30 pack for 12 bucks.
I have often wondered why the guy, standing behind the elephant with the WIC card, in Deer Cammies, unlaced boots, and a mullet, always had a cart with six or eight cases and paid cash. is this a cultural thing?
I noticed a similar thing in Vermont 40 years ago when the Great Society came in. As a Christian I aways try to think the best of people, do you think they might have a sinful relationship?
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posted on
12/28/2009 12:57:52 PM PST
by
Little Bill
(Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
To: brooklin
Bush was not in the 70’s. That was when it was imposed.
To: brooklin
Sorry. Checked it was Bush with the Crat Congress.
To: AreaMan
Ahh...that's what the Congress and State houses have been using for toilet paper since I can remember. I was posting just for the humor. I don't expect them to honor the Constitution. I thought the interesting part of the clause was
No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce. . . of one State over those of another,
I'm just thinking about the challenges to Nebraska's Medicaid deal. That however should have been for a different thread.
To: Little Bill
>>>What I want is an increased Tax on Milwaukees Best the State Drink of Maine. Man the cases that I see rolling out of Market Basket on Welfare day could, possibly, hopefully lower my property tax.
HEar Hear The state drink of maine is Allens Coffee Brandy.
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posted on
12/28/2009 2:37:00 PM PST
by
brooklin
To: brooklin
Only among those with prefrontal protuberances. Though I admit the popping of a top could scare the deer off, it is all in technique.
Real Mainers, when Jacking deer, always use the thumb over the opening to deaden the sound, you only have a couple of hours to operate, unless you have salted the area before hand, or several areas.
If I remember correctly you can, with planning, stuff a 12 pack in your jacket pockets, this precludes the Milk and the Jug, Anyway the snow at this time of year guarantees that your beer will be cold.
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posted on
12/28/2009 3:10:37 PM PST
by
Little Bill
(Carol Che-Porter is a MOONBAT.)
To: Little Bill
Liquid panty remover.....
although when material is that large, do you still calem panties?
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posted on
12/28/2009 3:28:27 PM PST
by
brooklin
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