Skip to comments.[Issaquah] Resident asks school board to remove Pledge of Allegiance from meetings
Posted on 12/28/2009 11:38:49 AM PST by Patriot62
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I stand corrected.
[Students not reciting the pledge shall maintain a respectful silence. ]
The solution is already in place.
As a practicing Viking, I DEMAND that they change the pledge to say: “One Nation, Under Thor, with Valhalla and Mead for all!”
Just a ridiculous as asking them to remove “Under God”, the way I see it “Under God” is a reference to the Natural or God given “Inherent Rights” that the founders intended.
I am an Agnostic/Catholic and I am offended and deeply pissed off by the Militant Atheists that want to shove THEIR views down all our throats.
>> The words under God in the pledge are offensive to your atheist residents in this school district, Barry said at the meeting. A study from last year, The American Religious Identification Survey, indicates that 15 percent of Americans arent religious. In Washington, which is one of the most nonreligious states, 25 percent arent religious. So, I think it is safe to assume there are atheist taxpayers, parents, students and maybe even a few teachers in this school district.
Oh barf... <<
Here is what I would tell this jerk:
I though Socialist craps like this atheist jerk LOVE Majority Mob Rule, Guess what, you sniveling asshat atheist 25% is less than 75%. Majority rules, Under God stays until Atheists make up 51% of the population. Sit and rotate on it. Oh and maybe pick a Math book because you have no concept what are!
No concept of what percentages are...
Outstanding logical assertion.
I'd like to add that the athiest is most probably a climate hoax believer, and that I am offened by the hypocricy of him exhaling CO2 which directly alters the weather over my house. I must therefore insist he immediately cease exhaling by whatever means he consideres convenient.
>> [Students not reciting the pledge shall maintain a respectful silence. ]
The solution is already in place. <<
Apparently their Tolerance ends at their own Intolerance.
You’re right Grace. Our country used to be ‘tolerant’ of others beliefs. Strange how the liberals became intolerant of our decent beliefs while they push their slimy gay, lesbian, Godless, communist agenda upon us!
No, it’s not strange, they have an agenda and plan to fulfill it.
Yup. A plea the to the Admin Moderator is what it takes. Doesn’t always go but I have seen it done.
The money quote.
How about the atheist(s) go to a country such as China or Russia who’s system is designed for and by atheists. They seem to be doing sooo well.
The atheist said: “Limbaugh endorsed Carlson for governor...”
Mr. Silverback responded: “So he’s a godless liar. . . he lies about the endorsement, because Limbaugh doesn’t endorse candidates.”
Michelle Malkin begs to differ with you: “One glimmer of sunshine for the GOP was an end-of-summer rally in which talk-show giant Rush Limbaugh endorsed Republican gubernatorial candidate John Carlson.”
Disagree with the atheist on the pledge, but get your facts straight. Whether you want to apologize for your false accusation is up to you.
Already dealt with upthread.
Welcome to FR.
Until the pledge is restored to its inclusive pre-1954 verbiage, I would like to see the Issaquah School District remove the pledge from any school activities including board meetings and classroom recitation. The pledge of allegiance is an oath of loyalty to the United States of America, a country. It is NOT an oath of allegiance to any god or religion. The words “under God” were added to the pledge during the McCarthy era when people were freaked out about communism and adding the words under God was considered a method to distinguish the US from the commie-lovers in Russia. Those two words should never have been added to the pledge.
A pledge of loyalty to ones country should be inclusive to everyone living in that country. There are many in the United States who do not believe in the existence of a god. Asking them to acknowledge the existence of a god as a prerequisite to pledging loyalty to their country is highly inappropriate.
The words under God were added to the pledge during the McCarthy era when people were freaked out about communism and adding the words under God was considered a method to distinguish the US from the commie-lovers in Russia. Those two words should never have been added to the pledge.
Ah, so you've fallen for the usual "Shooting the Fifties in a Barrel/Red Scare" leftspew. This trope would have us believe that America was going along as a utopia of "inclusiveness" where atheists ran as free as the wild mustang, were as popular as John Wayne and regarded as Yankee Doodle Dandy paragons of patriotism. But then the eeeeeeeeeeeeevil Joe McCarthy strode onto the scene and persecuted them, and ever since we have forgotten our atheist-loving heritage, and also tend to buy shopping carts filled with butter and smoke pipes, or something like that.
Though I'm sure the rise of the Cold War had a part to play in this, the bottom line is that the pledge was changed because a country where everyone had universally accepted the idea that we are a nation that owes allegiance to God was seeing rejection of God and a push for secularization. Fear was not the motivator, but a desire to remind people what the Founders had put in place.
Oh, and BTW..."freaked out" about Communism? Yeah, gee, why would anybody worry about a system whose flagship nation was building a large nuclear arsenal and huge conventional army and air force and had slaughtered tens of millions of innocent people within its own borders in a few short decades? And if a couple of years after the pledge was changed the commander-in-chief of that large new nuclear arsenal was pledging to bury us? No problem there....guess people were just uptight because they weren't having enough sex.
A pledge of loyalty to ones country should be inclusive to everyone living in that country.
A pledge of loyalty to a country should be a pledge to the purpose for which that country was founded. Multiculti shinola is not what a loyalty pledge is about.
There are many in the United States who do not believe in the existence of a god.
Yes, and therefore they live in a country where the first President spent a portion of his farewell address warning the people that morality could not be separated from religion, and neither could be separated from good government. A country where the third President, a Deist, gave money right out of the Treasury to Christian missionaries with Congressional approval. A country whose sixteenth President called it a nation "under God," a country whose Civil War was described by that same President in his Second Inaugural Address as an obvious judgment from God for mistreatment of humans He had created.
There is nothing in our national character or practice that will, or should, hold you back from believing there is no God or gods, from believing something "by reason" that would require omniscience, but to expect the rest of us to dance to that tune is to expect us to deny the national character in a profound fingers-in-ears-LA-LA-LA-I-CAN'T-HEAR-YOU fashion. It would be like being an Israeli citizen and expecting people to pretend there's no connection between Israel and Judaism. It would be like being born an Englishman and expecting to ban tea, or a native Frenchman campaigning to ban wine.
Asking them to acknowledge the existence of a god as a prerequisite to pledging loyalty to their country is highly inappropriate.
So is expecting you to spend money marked "In God We Trust," I suppose. Mount a protest...refuse to take any more of that tainted cash. Show us the moral superiority of your ways.