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Obama Admin Debated Whether to Tell Public 'System Failed' in Christmas Terror Attack
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 | Kristinn

Posted on 12/29/2009 9:02:40 AM PST by kristinn

File this under: Yes, they really think we're that dumb.

The Obama administration spent Christmas weekend in an internal debate over whether to tell the American people the government failed to protect airline passengers in the wake of the terror attack on Northwest Airlines flight 253, according to the Wall Street Journal.

That explains the stupifying message by Obama spokespeople on Sunday that the 'system worked'.

The statement followed three days in which the White House had delegated public responses to subordinates. Officials debated over the weekend whether to state publicly that the security system had failed, according to a senior counterterrorism official.

The dilemma was on display Monday when Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano appeared to backpedal from televised comments over the weekend in which she declared that, once the attack happened, "the system worked." Ms. Napolitano conceded Monday that the system didn't work in allowing a terrorist onboard the plane. She said her earlier comments were taken out of context.

Also on Sunday, White House Press Secretary repeated the initial administration line on CBS News' Face the Nation:

I do think, though, that, in many ways, this system has worked. We just have to continue to keep refining it and stay ahead of what terrorists are trying to do.

Yes, Mr. and Mrs. America, they really think we're that dumb. Yet, it is the best and the brightest populating the Obama administration who are dumb enough to think that they could tell the American people "the system worked" and get away with it.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bhochristmas; flight253; nationalsecurityfail; obama
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1 posted on 12/29/2009 9:02:41 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

This is perfectly in-line with their perpetual opposite day syndrome. Whatever they say...the opposite is the truth.

They are pathetic and they are liars.


2 posted on 12/29/2009 9:05:12 AM PST by surfer
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To: kristinn

The product of incompetence, deceit, lies, and weakness with little regard for the safety of American lives. Don’t these fools think the American public already figured out the SYSTEM FAILED????


3 posted on 12/29/2009 9:06:09 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: surfer

They’re simply stupid and thuggish. You grant them entirely too much intelligence by suggesting they are able to “lie”.


4 posted on 12/29/2009 9:06:19 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: kristinn

The system failed. That's one error. You did not acknowledge the system failed. You lied. That's two errors. You did not correct the failure. That's three errors. YOU are in error. YOU are imperfect, flawed..."

5 posted on 12/29/2009 9:07:04 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Achtung. preparen zie fur die obamahopenchangen.)
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To: kristinn

The Obama administration cannot comprehend that the truth stands independently of their creation.

They really think they are gods.


6 posted on 12/29/2009 9:07:36 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: kristinn
Debating the obvious... well, that certainly serves as evidence that we have nothing but pathetic, ignorant, political hacks at the helm. I sincerely “hope” that the idiots that voted for this POS suffer twice the financial indignities of those who refused to buy into the propoganda.
7 posted on 12/29/2009 9:07:59 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: kristinn

Not only do they think we’re stupid, they don’t even care what we think about it. They take pleasure in shoving this stuff in our face. The message is you’re stupid, we do whatever we want and there’s nothing you can do about it. Just shut up peasant and and do what we tell you to do.


8 posted on 12/29/2009 9:09:37 AM PST by Alex Kida
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To: Common Sense 101

They confuse damage control with leadership.


9 posted on 12/29/2009 9:09:41 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: kristinn

It is difficult to believe just what is taking place with this administration. Obama as Saddam Hussein and Holder, etc. as Baghdad Bob.


10 posted on 12/29/2009 9:09:41 AM PST by sarasota
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To: kristinn

The teleprompter must have taken a vacation.


11 posted on 12/29/2009 9:10:27 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: kristinn

It took the whole weekend to come up with THAT line?!


12 posted on 12/29/2009 9:10:46 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: kristinn

****The Obama administration spent Christmas weekend in an internal debate over whether to tell the American people the government failed to protect airline passengers in the wake of the terror attack on Northwest Airlines flight 253****

Quit treating the public like children! We are big boys, we can handle the truth. But can we ever believe anything the Obama admin says?


13 posted on 12/29/2009 9:11:19 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are my guns loaded? Break in and find out.)
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To: kristinn
After talking it over the idiots realized we didn't’ have to be told what we already knew, except to make themselves look less like liars.
14 posted on 12/29/2009 9:11:24 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin'-the cure is Palin.)
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To: kristinn

ASFBOB (All Systems Fail Because of Bush)


15 posted on 12/29/2009 9:12:31 AM PST by woofie
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To: kristinn

Wow...what contempt for us.


16 posted on 12/29/2009 9:12:44 AM PST by blam
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To: kristinn
Yes, Mr. and Mrs. America, they really think we're that dumb.

You can't blame them for thinking this. They discovered they could say whatever they wanted without regards to scrutiny during the campaign so they figgered they can continue with the practice and get away with it. Just shows us they put politics and poll results above the truth and safety of the nation.

17 posted on 12/29/2009 9:13:28 AM PST by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: kristinn

This administration has gotten to the point where absolutely nothing they say anymore is believable.

I now assume EVERYTHING is a lie and go from there.


18 posted on 12/29/2009 9:14:27 AM PST by jakota (®)
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To: surfer
Whatever they say...the opposite is the truth.

That should be the First Rule in dealing with all Marxists.

The Second is that whatever evil thing they accuse opponents of doing is exactly what they are doing themselves.

Try it. It will reveal the political world as it really is.

19 posted on 12/29/2009 9:14:49 AM PST by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: kristinn
No. What they actually discussed was how to blame Bush.
20 posted on 12/29/2009 9:15:16 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (usff.com)
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To: jakota

The Emporer has no clothes and the rest of us will be naked before boarding flights soon.


21 posted on 12/29/2009 9:15:45 AM PST by Oldexpat
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To: kristinn

“They are pathetic and they are liars.”

The sunbathing communist Kenyan lizard king and his minions think that whoever controls the narrative wins.

The system worked thing was too far fetched to become the narrative.


22 posted on 12/29/2009 9:16:38 AM PST by y6162 (uish..)
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To: blam

re: Wow...what contempt for us

Amen! And that’s the most galling thing about this bunch. They lie, they know they lie, we know they lie and they know we know they lie, but it doesn’t matter to them.

IMHO, it’s a matter of a total lack of respect for us and what who we are or what we believe.


23 posted on 12/29/2009 9:17:40 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: kristinn
Just think of the billions in TARP Slush Money that could be doled around in new "feel-good" security measures...

Bush gave us the TSA and pat-downs for grandma and nuns.

Maybe Obama could give us... a ban on hate-filled Talk Radio that incites the "enemy."

24 posted on 12/29/2009 9:18:59 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: kristinn
"...Officials debated over the weekend whether to state publicly that the security system had failed..."

Soooo...if they DON'T say it failed...it DIDN'T?

25 posted on 12/29/2009 9:20:44 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Nachum

ping


26 posted on 12/29/2009 9:22:07 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Nachum

ping


27 posted on 12/29/2009 9:22:08 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: SlowBoat407

Maybe you should Photoshop TOTUS in there...


28 posted on 12/29/2009 9:22:34 AM PST by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: kristinn

“File this under: Yes, they really think we’re that dumb.”

Well, “we” did vote for him, didn’t we?...


29 posted on 12/29/2009 9:24:28 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 342 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: muawiyah

These thugs are debating what the truth is and what its impact would be on the 0. The value of the truth is how much it helps 0.


30 posted on 12/29/2009 9:24:52 AM PST by omega4179 (Marco2010)
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To: kristinn; StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; ...
Yes, Mr. and Mrs. America, they really think we're that dumb. Yet, it is the best and the brightest populating the Obama administration who are dumb enough to think that they could tell the American people "the system worked" and get away with it.

Spot on, kristinn. Thanks for this thread...

31 posted on 12/29/2009 9:27:39 AM PST by nutmeg (Rush Limbaugh & Sarah Palin agree: NO third parties! Take back the GOP)
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To: EagleUSA

Even posters at DU are calling Obama a failure. People are waking up!


32 posted on 12/29/2009 9:27:51 AM PST by freebird5850 (O-Bomba is not the Messiah. Jesus was a carpenter and could build a cabinet!)
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To: kristinn
Yes, Mr. and Mrs. America, they really think we're that dumb.

Well, FWIW America did elect this Bozo president and America did elect the current Congress.

33 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:23 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: kristinn

The audacity of condescension.


34 posted on 12/29/2009 9:33:22 AM PST by LikeLight (FReepin tweetz @StephenLBloom)
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To: kristinn

They DEBATED this question?

What a picture it brings to mind...sitting around..Rahm, Axelrod, Gibbs and who knows who else..

..should we tell em the truth?

.. Nah..tell them- after all- no one was killed- so we’re good, right?

.. How about we tell them an attempt was made, sure, but look, it ws no big deal really- even the president knows that- he won’t mention it for trhee days. By avoiding it- people will realize it’s not important, right?

Obama is famous for trying to not take a position on anything- just offer rehtoric. So this time he decides - not to decide- again. It’s extraordinary when you consider the devotion being given by so many on the front lines of the WAR ON TERROR. The contrast simply could not be greater.


35 posted on 12/29/2009 9:36:31 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: y6162

” The sunbathing communist Kenyan lizard king ..”

LOL !
I should know by now not to drink coffee while scanning FR threads.
I cannot think of a more apt description - a classic.
The Play Boy knows for a fact that 68 million Americans are easily fooled dopes.
But, 60 million of us are not.
Within seconds of hearing about the terror attack-we all knew the system failed.
Barry obviously hasn’t a clue and it is impossible for this moron to make any kind
of quick , executive level decision in a time of crisis .
Other than to prohibit airline passengers from using the bathroom .
It’s his Wee Wee’d Up technique for fighting terrorism.


36 posted on 12/29/2009 9:38:12 AM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: freebird5850

Even posters at DU are calling Obama a failure. People are waking up!
:::::::
Good news! You made my day.


37 posted on 12/29/2009 9:39:44 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: kristinn
Sounds fishy to me.


38 posted on 12/29/2009 9:39:58 AM PST by McGruff (We're Going Rogue Baby!)
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To: kristinn

They figured the corrupt media would also agree with them


39 posted on 12/29/2009 9:42:55 AM PST by italianquaker (odumbo is getting all wee wee d up)
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To: sarasota
Starring Janet "Not Politicalo" as Baghdad Bob
40 posted on 12/29/2009 9:50:34 AM PST by mikrofon (From the Nappy-headed HoSec Dep't)
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To: Bernard Marx
Back in the ‘50’s I read a book entitled, “You Can Trust The Communists...(to be Communists)”. I forget who the author was, maybe it was Ezra Taft Benson, I don't know. (That was a long time ago!)

Anyway, one of the central tenets of the book was this question of “truth”. He stated if a statement furthered the communist movement, it could not possibly be a lie, as it was known to them to be the “Marxist-Leninist truth”.

Therefore, the could say with a reasonably straight face that they were telling the “truth”.

This was over 50 years ago, and the author had it down pat. He saw what is was, how it worked, how it would be marketed and portrayed. No wonder the young, the naive, and other assorted imbeciles fall for this trash!

You want to educate your kids? Have them “The Prince”, “Rules For Radicals” (and anything else by Alinsky), the myriad of works by Antonio Gramsci, and the psuedo-intellectual babblings of Noam Chomsky.

Make sure YOU read them, too, and then discuss these things with your kids. It might help, too if you were familiar with at least volume 1 of “Das Kapital”, as well as some von Mises and/or Rothbard, but it's not essential for these purposes.

Remember, knowledge and truth are the sunlight with which disinfect the spaces these cockroaches infest, and causes them to scatter (or, hopefully, even die!)

Do yourself, you kids and the nation a favor and indulge yourselves in this quest.

You won't be sorry.

CA....

41 posted on 12/29/2009 9:51:47 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: kristinn

It is true that is failed, but where? Amsterdam? Nigeria? Thia guy boarded the flight in Nigeria. Did he have to go through screening again in Amsterdam? It seems that Security at Airports all over the world are lierally “all over the map”. Years ago (pre 9/11), I can remember the screening in places like Paris and Berlin being much more stringent than anyhting I experienced in the U.S. If you want real screning, fly El Al out of Israel. This is a Global problem and somehow, we need to develop “global standards” and I think that this issue is a hell of a lot more important than what they were debating in Copenhagen a couple of weeks ago.


42 posted on 12/29/2009 9:56:07 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: kristinn

Pssssst, do you think that we should inform the little people, a question from the “0” administration?


43 posted on 12/29/2009 9:59:45 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: kristinn

The guy who shouted YOU LIE! during the SOTU has been proven correct over and over and over.


44 posted on 12/29/2009 10:00:55 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Cheney was proven right so quickly, Obama inviting terrorist attacks, TWO & counting)
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To: kristinn

The system failed, the bomb didn’t go off.

Pray for America’s Freedom


45 posted on 12/29/2009 10:02:15 AM PST by bray (What ya in for Son? No Health Insurance. Me too.)
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To: Chances Are

Corrections:

The author was Fred C. Schwartz, and it was published in 1962. Time dims the effects of time, doesn’t it?

CA....


46 posted on 12/29/2009 10:03:24 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! Seems I've found that silly grin again!)
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

FYI.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2416953/posts


47 posted on 12/29/2009 10:06:50 AM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: bray

bttt


48 posted on 12/29/2009 10:07:12 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: kristinn
So.....either Janet Napolitano was NOT taken out of context, or this is just more BS by the incompetent 0boobama admin to cover their pathetic asses.

IOW - the blame Bush scenario didn't hold up since Napolitano admitted having reviewed the agency procedures rather than say she hadn't read them and therefore must have found them acceptable as she didn't change anything, so it's time to sling as much $hit as possible and see if anything sticks to the walls of believability.

49 posted on 12/29/2009 10:08:53 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best.)
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To: kristinn

The word “System” implies they have done it the same way at least twice.

I see no system here.


50 posted on 12/29/2009 10:10:22 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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