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Intriguing people for December 29, 2009 (CNN joins sociopath Andy Martin's smear of GOP candidate)
Left-wing smear machine (CNN) ^ | December 29,2009 | CNN douchebag Jay Kernis

Posted on 12/29/2009 9:05:35 AM PST by xjcsa

Mark Kirk

The Illinois congressman, now the front-runner in the Republican primary election for U.S. Senate, is facing an attack ad that questions his sexual orientation. The Chicago Sun-Times reports that opponent Andy Martin, already controversial for previous remarks about Barack Obama, has run for offices in Illinois, Florida and Connecticut but has never won. He taped a commercial questioning whether Kirk is gay -- and radio stations have told the Sun-Times that federal communications rules don't permit them to edit the ads. Spokesman Erik Elk said that Kirk, a U.S. Naval Intelligence officer, was unavailable for comment because he is on active duty over the holidays. Elk issued this statement: "The ad is not true and is degrading to the political process. The people of Illinois deserve better." Kirk, whose candidacy was endorsed by his ex-wife, faces five opponents in the Republican primary on February 2.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: andymartin; cnn; markkirk; sociopath
I don't know if Kirk's a good candidate or not; I'm not following this primary that closely. But Andy Martin is a narcissistic sociopath who needs to be run out of town on a rail (and that was true -before- this latest news).

But note CNN's coverage here. If a Republican were to smear a Democrat like this, the story would be about the Republican's outrageous tactics and how the Republican must be a desperate loser.

But a sociopath kook calling himself a Republican spews this kind of slime at a Republican front-runner, and the story is about how the front-runner is "facing questions about his sexual orientation."

They dutifully provide a minimal mention that Martin is "controversial," but that hardly mitigates the smear here.

Andy Martin is a waste of perfectly good air, and CNN is close behind.

1 posted on 12/29/2009 9:05:37 AM PST by xjcsa
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To: xjcsa

I’m sure they give just as much time to that Larry who said Obama is gay. /s

I notice this guy has said things about Obama as well, but they don’t tell you what they were.


2 posted on 12/29/2009 9:08:12 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: xjcsa

“Andy Martin, already controversial for previous remarks about Barack Obama,”

But those they won’t repeat.


3 posted on 12/29/2009 9:10:06 AM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid)
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To: xjcsa

Martin-Trigona has previously run as a democrat in Illinois, too, and no mention is made of that in the article. Of the fact that he was never admitted to the Illinois bar because of what the ABA called “moderately severe character defect manifested by well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character.”
Kirk’s spokesman says flatly that the allegation is untrue and it gets buried. Typical CNN.


4 posted on 12/29/2009 9:11:26 AM PST by jyoders19
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To: xjcsa
Mark Kirk is a slimeball.
While the gay smear might be deplorable, he should not be defended. That's his problem.
5 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:35 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: Williams

If it’s the same Martin, he claims to be a birther but actually used the issue to grandstand. He even went to Hawaii and dramatically posted about it on FR describing himself in glowing terms.


6 posted on 12/29/2009 9:32:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
If it’s the same Martin, he claims to be a birther but actually used the issue to grandstand. He even went to Hawaii and dramatically posted about it on FR describing himself in glowing terms.

Same guy. He does love to describe himself in glowing terms. He's a narcissistic sociopath.

7 posted on 12/29/2009 10:10:49 AM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Mark Kirk is a slimeball.

Then let's have somebody who's not a sociopath attack him for that.

While the gay smear might be deplorable, he should not be defended. That's his problem.

It is deplorable, and it comes from a sociopathic creep. Andy Martin is a piece of human refuse and anything he says should not be taken seriously in any context.

I really don't know anything about Mark Kirk, and I don't much care at this point. But Andy Martin is on par with Fred Phelps, and should be considered a pariah.

8 posted on 12/29/2009 10:13:40 AM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa

Is this the guy who describes himself as an internet legend or some such nonsense?


9 posted on 12/29/2009 10:31:15 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: xjcsa

He’s a nutter but then anyone can run for office. Sometimes they win (Franken). Hopefully he’ll only get 6 votes. And they’ll all be family members.


10 posted on 12/29/2009 10:45:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: xjcsa

where is all the money coming from for this smear???
another dnc operative hooked up with CNN , what a shock.


11 posted on 12/29/2009 10:45:27 AM PST by ncalburt (San Fran Nan , Your Harvey Milk was gunned down by a fellow Dem-RAT)
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To: FreeAtlanta

THAT’S what I was trying to remember! The internet legend, Andy Martin. And he posted it himself. LOL!!!!


12 posted on 12/29/2009 10:47:43 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Is this the guy who describes himself as an internet legend or some such nonsense?

Yes, "internet powerhouse" Andy Martin is "running" for Senate.

13 posted on 12/29/2009 10:56:46 AM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
He’s a nutter but then anyone can run for office.

Yep. Doesn't change the fact that he's a sociopath.

14 posted on 12/29/2009 10:59:55 AM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: flaglady47; onyx; Fred Nerks; STARWISE

Sure will be interesting to find out if Andy becomes the Senator from Illinois if he THEN will have legal standing in D.C. to bring the birth certificate issue to court.


15 posted on 12/29/2009 12:20:19 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: xjcsa; Impy; BillyBoy; chicagolady; PhilCollins; Clintonfatigued; Dr. Sivana; BlackElk

*Another Mark Kirk ping*


16 posted on 12/29/2009 12:38:26 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; hennie pennie

Kirk is my congressman. I don’t care whether he’s gay. I dislike him because he’s pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-spending increases, pro-tax increases, pro-illegal alien, and anti-Iraq surge.

I hope that Kirk will lose his primary to Don Lowery, a conservative who has been a judge and a state’s attorney. His site is www.JudgeLowery4USSenate.com.


17 posted on 12/29/2009 1:19:52 PM PST by PhilCollins
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Considering his voting record since 07, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was.


18 posted on 12/29/2009 1:54:56 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: xjcsa; fieldmarshaldj; PhilCollins; BillyBoy; yongin; darkangel82
I don't know if Kirk's a good candidate or not; I'm not following this primary that closely.

Allow me to tell you. You need not to be angry about this. Kirk is DIABLO (Democrat In All But Label Only) sludge.

We need this guy to lose the GOP primary or else the general election will be between 2 democrats. I don't know if he's fruity or not and I don't care but if the allegation that he is hurts him, super. Remember now he's a democrat in the GOP and that's not an exaggeration. I'm gonna go ahead and treat him like one. He's a liberal, not a moderate.

Now Andy Martin is very strange and less than a good conservative himself, I don't think he could even win an election. But there are 3 credible conservatives in the race. John Arrington, Patrick Hughes, and Don Lowery. There has not been much polling so far but I'm sure more polls will be conducted. If one is clearly in a superior position to win I will vote for that candidate and urge Illinois conservatives to do the same.

19 posted on 12/29/2009 3:28:54 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy

Martin was in another 5-way primary in 06 and we know how well that turned out.


20 posted on 12/29/2009 3:32:11 PM PST by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: Impy
Allow me to tell you. You need not to be angry about this. Kirk is DIABLO (Democrat In All But Label Only) sludge.

I'll take your word for it.

I don't know if he's fruity or not and I don't care but if the allegation that he is hurts him, super.

So the ends justify the means. Got it.

Remember now he's a democrat in the GOP and that's not an exaggeration. I'm gonna go ahead and treat him like one. He's a liberal, not a moderate.

I guess I don't think this kind of ad would be wise or appropriate against a Democrat either.

Now Andy Martin is very strange and less than a good conservative himself, I don't think he could even win an election.

He's worse than that. He's a sociopath, and I mean that. Nothing good can come from forming an alliance with him; he needs to be treated as a complete pariah.

But there are 3 credible conservatives in the race. John Arrington, Patrick Hughes, and Don Lowery. There has not been much polling so far but I'm sure more polls will be conducted. If one is clearly in a superior position to win I will vote for that candidate and urge Illinois conservatives to do the same.

That's good; hopefully one of them gains some traction. Hopefully Kirk is exposed for the DIABLO he apparently is. But this isn't the way to do it.

Think of it this way: Andy Martin = Fred Phelps.

21 posted on 12/29/2009 3:52:30 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: xjcsa

“One must consider the final result” is allegedly a more accurate translation of Machiavelli. That’s how the socialists think and that’s part of the reason they usually win.

Now there is no need for an “alliance” with Martin. All we need to do is sit back and watch. I wouldn’t jump to Roland Burris aid if someone alleged he packed fudge. I’d say no comment and laugh. The good GOP candidates should ignore this and focus on the issues.

BTW Martin did not invent these allegations, allegedly the democrats have been gathering info on Kirk and a decent Republican Aaron Schock who may run for higher office in the future. Schock I would defend but if he is gay it’s better it comes out sooner than later. He can say so what and that he’s against gay marriage anyway and I would gladly vote for him if he ever runs for the Senate.

You need take not take my word on Kirk. If you have a moment or 2 look up his voting record. Do a keyword search on FR. Look at his ratings from the American Conservative Union or ontheissues.org. He voted for cap and trade, he’s for partial birth abortion. He’s not worthy of defense. I only hope this gay rumor doesn’t backfire and help him win the primary.


22 posted on 12/29/2009 4:31:54 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN | NO "INDIVIDUAL MANDATE"!!!!!!!)
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To: Impy

Now is the time to find out everything you possibly can about the real conservatives who are running. We all need to make a point to find the best conservative and work hard and support the best one in the primary. Don’t wait for the campaign ads to make the decision for you. Go and talk to those who are running. Find out what kind of people they are. This is what all of us have to do in the primaries.


23 posted on 12/29/2009 6:01:29 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Impy
“One must consider the final result” is allegedly a more accurate translation of Machiavelli. That’s how the socialists think and that’s part of the reason they usually win.

I'm not saying we don't fight with bare knuckles. But I do think some things are fair game and some things are not.

Now there is no need for an “alliance” with Martin. All we need to do is sit back and watch. I wouldn’t jump to Roland Burris aid if someone alleged he packed fudge. I’d say no comment and laugh. The good GOP candidates should ignore this and focus on the issues.

You have a point here. But CNN and others will use this to make the entire GOP look bad - and it's not like the Illinois GOP has a great reputation to begin with.

You need take not take my word on Kirk. If you have a moment or 2 look up his voting record. Do a keyword search on FR. Look at his ratings from the American Conservative Union or ontheissues.org. He voted for cap and trade, he’s for partial birth abortion.

That's good enough for me; I wasn't trying to be snide when I said I'd take your word for it.

He’s not worthy of defense.

My intent wasn't to defend Kirk, exactly; I was more interested in making clear just how despicable Martin and CNN are.

I only hope this gay rumor doesn’t backfire and help him win the primary.

That is a legitimate concern. This kind of gutter politics usually does backfire, especially when originated by the likes of Martin.

24 posted on 12/29/2009 7:36:30 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Andrew Martin, the name du jour of one notorious Andrew Martin Trigonis, formerly of Naugatuck, CT, and other locales is an embarrassment. So is Lavender Ron Kirk who could actually be elected Senator unlike Psycho Andy. Andrew's reputation in CT was as a slavering anti-Semite. He was involved in a LOT of federal litigation trying to acquire the New Haven television station WTNH-8. After a string of frivolous lawsuits, he lost that bid.

There was then sitting on the Federal District Court in Connecticut Judge Jose Cabranes with whom I am acquainted since before Clintoon appointed him. Now, Judge Cabranes is undoubtedly somewhat more liberal than thee or me but I can recommend him as at least a reasonable and moderate fellow. He became so angry at Andrew Martin Trigonis' frivolous abuse of his court that he actually enjoined Andrew from filing any more lawsuits whatsoever without FIRST providing Cabranes with a copy of the complaint and obtaining his permission to sue. I think but am not positive that Anbdrew Martin Trigonis violated the order and wound up in the federal hoosegow on contempt of court.

Finally, while the immediately previous behavior of Judge Cabranes may seem a tad extreme, he was subsequently elevated to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals (CT, VT, NY) and served (with Sonia Sotomayor) on the three judge panel that decided the New Haven Firefighters' affirmative action case there. Judge Cabranes dissented (his dissent became the basis of the SCOTUS decision reversing Sotomayor's 2nd Circuit decision. Essentially, Cabranes wrote that he could tell how Sotomayor wanted the Court to rule at the bottom line but that her decision was absolutely devoid of any legal reasoning whatsoever.

25 posted on 12/30/2009 6:46:16 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Impy

Kirk is my congressman. I don’t care whether he’s gay. I dislike him because he’s pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-spending increases, pro-tax increases, pro-illegal alien, and anti-Iraq surge.

I hope that Kirk will lose his primary to Don Lowery, a conservative who has been a judge and a state’s attorney. His site is www.JudgeLowery4USSenate.com.


26 posted on 12/30/2009 6:54:39 AM PST by PhilCollins
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To: BlackElk

Interesting story, thanks for that.


27 posted on 12/30/2009 8:28:17 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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