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Ron Paul on the airline plot : “They’re terrorists because we’re occupiers!”
Hot Air ^ | December 28, 2009 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 12/29/2009 9:24:17 PM PST by RobinMasters

I’ve already written about how his isolationist garbage leads inexorably to nonsense like this, so let me just add two points. First, and most obviously, there is no U.S. occupation of Yemen or Nigeria. The only way the airline plot is a reaction to U.S. “occupation” is if you accept the jihadist premise that there are no Arab/Muslim nation-states but rather only one Islamic caliphate waiting to be born. Only in that way does the U.S. occupation of Iraq warrant a reprisal from, say, a Pakistani or Yemeni. And yet, needless to say, if Britain was attacked tomorrow and Obama pledged U.S. forces to assist in the reprisal, Paul would be the first guy to scream that we should scrupulously observe national boundaries and not go fighting another country’s battles for it.

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1 posted on 12/29/2009 9:24:18 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; traderrob6; OL Hickory; socialismisinsidious; trlambsr; Altera; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 12/29/2009 9:24:39 PM PST by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Babs Streisand!


3 posted on 12/29/2009 9:26:01 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: RobinMasters

Paul is an idiot on this. These Jihadists were against us LOOOOONG before we became “occupiers.”


4 posted on 12/29/2009 9:26:47 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: RobinMasters

Mr. Paul, if we are “ocuppiers”, oil would be $ 20.00 per barrel, or free.

They hate us because we are infidels,you dummy.


5 posted on 12/29/2009 9:26:48 PM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: RobinMasters

They were terrorists long before we set foot in the Middle East. They’ve just decided to turn their attention more on us, because we now have the largest presence there, and we decided long ago to throw our lot in with the Israelis, who they hate to distraction.


6 posted on 12/29/2009 9:27:17 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: RobinMasters
Ron Paul is a Congressman because people are idiots.
7 posted on 12/29/2009 9:27:38 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: RobinMasters

Ron Paul belongs in a beauty parlor working as a hair stylist
not as a U.S.Congressman saying anything about foreign policy
or how to fight and WIN a war . The man is a pathetic coward ,
the exact antithesis of the men and women that have made America great and strong and respected .


8 posted on 12/29/2009 9:27:47 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: RobinMasters

Mark for tomorrow.


9 posted on 12/29/2009 9:28:45 PM PST by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: RobinMasters

*pops some popcorn and waits for the PaulBots to start flaming*


10 posted on 12/29/2009 9:29:04 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: RobinMasters

Ron Paul = Wrong Paul


11 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:20 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: RobinMasters
The reason why we occupy Nigeria is because of all those e-mail scams Nigerians have foisted on us.

Only seems fair.

12 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:36 PM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: RobinMasters

Paul is a liberal cindy sheehan peace activist. An utter disgrace.


13 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:42 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: RobinMasters
O.K.

I'm not a republican. I'm registered as 'Independent' and I consider myself a conservative. I used to respect Ron Paul, and I don't think that we should be involved in as many foreign 'entanglements' as we are. However, we are not now, nor have we ever been 'occupiers.'

Is Ron Paul an America hater?

14 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:42 PM PST by Washi
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I doubt leavening Iraq, Afghanistan would make a difference. The world wide jihad would continue., The followers of the moon god have only one purpose in mind … world domination.


15 posted on 12/29/2009 9:30:58 PM PST by doc1019 (To call Obama a bumbling idiot would be an insult to bumbling idiots worldwide.)
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To: RobinMasters

Paul should be locked up in an insainasylum.


16 posted on 12/29/2009 9:31:11 PM PST by dalereed
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To: LeoWindhorse

I fear Congressman Paul is giving Conservatism a bad name. He makes us look like idiots when he talks about auditing the Fed and now this crap. He’s an MD from Texas. What does he know about international or diplomatic issues? NOTHING. So “shut up, Ron..”


17 posted on 12/29/2009 9:31:23 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: doc1019

I agree. They have been doing this since the 600s. The only setback was in Catholic Spain and the Pope will pay for that some day...


18 posted on 12/29/2009 9:32:37 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: RobinMasters
Libertarians suck and he is the biggest sucker of all.
19 posted on 12/29/2009 9:33:54 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: Washi

Paul/Chomsky 2012? ;-)


20 posted on 12/29/2009 9:33:54 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Kansas58
"Ron Paul is a Congressman because people are idiots."

Much the same reason Obama is president. Ron Paul is great on constitutional issues but then blows it by associating himself with nut cases ie 911 was an inside job.

21 posted on 12/29/2009 9:35:15 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: RobinMasters
That guy is nuts, and here are a few graphics that will depict his nuttiness quite well.


22 posted on 12/29/2009 9:35:23 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Washi

This is a transcript I lifted from Michelle Malkin regarding Paul in which he stated Democrats would do a better job with investigatory oversight and further lending credence to the 9/11 truther movement and the “America had it coming” crowd:

“CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?

HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. It will be a little bit better now with the Democrats now in charge of oversight. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.”


23 posted on 12/29/2009 9:36:06 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: RobinMasters
I put Ron Paul in the same category as Michael Savage. Both get a good idea every once in awhile but you can't go along with it because they are total idiots in the large sense.
24 posted on 12/29/2009 9:36:48 PM PST by fish hawk (It's sad that science gathers knowledge faster than society gathers wisdom. Isaac Asimov)
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To: RobinMasters

If Ron Paul had his way, we’d have whorehouses in every neighborhood, they’d sell heroin at 7-Elevens, and we would have NO ALLIES.


25 posted on 12/29/2009 9:38:16 PM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: RobinMasters

Okay all you Ron Paul idiots, come out of the woodwork to defend this.


26 posted on 12/29/2009 9:38:38 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Pray for our leaders: Rush, Levin, and Beck)
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To: SuziQ
"They were terrorists long before we set foot in the Middle East."

Even a modest glance at history bears this out.

27 posted on 12/29/2009 9:40:38 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: RobinMasters

I used to somewhat respect Ron Paul. Now I’m not so sure. Actually I am sure. He’s an idiot. This proves it.

Islam has forever been at war with the West. And the East, as far as that goes.

If we were “occupiers” we’d have never told the first camel rider what an internal combustion engine is. No Muslim/Arab has ever invented a device to use the oil that they live on top of. There are no Arab built planes. There are no Arab built earth movers. There is very little Arab industry at all. They’d have no use for the oil if we hadn’t invented a use for it and then showed them how to use the machines that require oil.

All of that need not be said, however...you can distill the essence of the argument down to one question...what method has an Arab ever invented for recovering “their” oil? Right...none.

So if we were imperialist occupiers...we’d have simply just taken the oil...oil that had no use or no value to them...oil that was forever beyond the grasp of them, deep underground.


28 posted on 12/29/2009 9:40:44 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: SuziQ

“They’ve just decided to turn their attention more on us...”

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They know that the West is an easy and cowardly target that fights terrorism abroad at the expense of their brave troops but allows the free spread of it at home at the expense of the troops’ families and loved ones.


29 posted on 12/29/2009 9:41:19 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: RobinMasters

Egypt was one of the precious crown jewels of the Eastern-Roman Empire. More importantly, Egypt was also the breadbasket of Rome first and of then Constantinople.

It was a fertile land that produced and exported wheat, corn, wine, oil, textiles, glass, cosmetics, and medicinal and chemical products of the time. The population of Egypt made up of Christian Copts was estimated to have been about 9 millions at the time the Arab aggression in 641.

The persecuted Copts were the original inhabitants. Egypt, before the Islamic invasion was not an Arab country.


30 posted on 12/29/2009 9:41:30 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: RobinMasters

yo Ron Paul, why did they attack us on 9-11 then? since we didn’t invade till afterwards.


31 posted on 12/29/2009 9:43:11 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: RobinMasters

I tend to like Paul, but this is an area where he is dead wrong. Especially in this instance.

We weren’t “occupying” anything when we were hit on 911, and many other times. Terrorism and conflicts in THEIR region drew us into the Middle East. One can debate the merits of whether or not we should intervene in that part of the world, but “occupiers” we are not.


32 posted on 12/29/2009 9:43:28 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Mobile Vulgus

The war between Islam and US is a culmination of events from the founding of Isreal with US backing, supporting Arab monarchies against Arab nationalist governments, later supporting nationalistic Arab regimes which became corrupt against the average Arab on the street in order to counter Islamic fundamentalism and the NATURE of Islamic fundamentalism. Would the US have conflict with Islam if we did not back the founding of Israel, would the US have a conflict with Islam as we got involve in defending our oil source against the Soviets in the Cold War and later Islamic fundamentalist Iran, etc, etc. I think we will still have conflict but at a different scale and intensity. Lesson from this conflict is when the US tries to get involve with regional and internal affairs of other nations, we risk reaping what we sow. HOWEVER I DO NOT AGREE WITH PAULBOTS THAT THE SOLUTION IS TO SAY WE ARE SORRY AND JUST WALK AWAY. I think the anger in the Arab street is to the point that they will not accept sorry and view such act as weakness and it will only embolden them to come after us. At this point we have no choice but fight. When this war on terrorism is finally won or over, we as Americans need to evaluate the notion that we need to be like everyone else before us, that we need to be an “empire” in order to prove we are a superpower. Suffering and injustice is the way of the world outside of our borders, and there is not much we can do about it. The US is blessed with two oceans, no major superpower on our borders, plenty of resources, and a unique American notion of liberty to concentrate on building a great nation and standard of living based on noninterferrence and trade.


33 posted on 12/29/2009 9:44:04 PM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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To: Disambiguator

Actually, it’s R-U-N Paul (because he advocates running away from the world).


34 posted on 12/29/2009 9:46:36 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: RobinMasters

Shaddap, Ron, you dummy.


36 posted on 12/29/2009 9:48:06 PM PST by chris37
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To: Kansas58

so lets do away with voting!! That’ll increase our security


37 posted on 12/29/2009 9:49:19 PM PST by usshadley (Orwell was an Optimist)
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To: Disambiguator

McCartney?


38 posted on 12/29/2009 9:49:56 PM PST by usshadley (Orwell was an Optimist)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

More importantly, why did they attack us in 1993? Why did they attack the U.S. Embassies in Africa? Why did they attack the U.S.S. Cole? Why did they bring down the U.S. airliner over Lockerby? Why did they hijack the Achille Laurel? Why did they take hostage the 1972 Israeli Olympic athletes? Why did they blow up the Kobar Towers? Need we go on? This is not a war about occupation. This is a war about ideology. These people want to and are proceeding with plans to dominate the entire globe.


39 posted on 12/29/2009 9:50:49 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a U.S. Army Infantry Soldier whose wife is expecting twins SONS.)
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To: RobinMasters

It sucks, because I can listen to what Ron Paul has to say and agree with so much of it. His views generally on government and it’s place in people’s lives and the restrictions on it’s power are exactly what I would love to hear from every politician.

And then, he says something (usually related to foreign policy) so idiotic that it negates everything else.


40 posted on 12/29/2009 9:50:56 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: RobinMasters

Pauls an idiot. Who were we occupying on 9-11-2001?


41 posted on 12/29/2009 9:54:03 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: KoRn

“I tend to like Paul, but this is an area where he is dead wrong. Especially in this instance.”

That’s like saying Hitler had his good points, and did a great job at making the railroads run on time.


42 posted on 12/29/2009 9:55:03 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (The End of an Error - 01/20/2013)
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To: RobinMasters

They hate the west and especially because we have gays, Coca Cola ,Disneyland, and semi naked women .... Give up all of these and they will be happy


43 posted on 12/29/2009 9:56:02 PM PST by woofie
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To: SoldierDad

How about Rhu Paul?


44 posted on 12/29/2009 9:56:22 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberalism is the politics of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: pissant

Pardon, I hate to interrupt but I’m here from the Federal Reserve and , uh, i hate to bring it up but you owe us $39,000.00...and your kids do too...yes, each one of them...yes, $39,000.00 apiece, that’s right...hey...we’re being fair..comes to $12,000,000,000,000.00...welfare/warfare state don’t come cheap ya know...we’d be glad to fund your next lil war funtime...that’s what we’re here for...we do pretty well for ourselves while you’re off fighting..thanks for the business!!


45 posted on 12/29/2009 9:56:47 PM PST by usshadley (Orwell was an Optimist)
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To: RobinMasters
It's really amazing about Dr. Paul... For someone I really agree with on many things - the few things we disagree on are total deal killers...

Epic Disappointment.

47 posted on 12/29/2009 9:59:15 PM PST by acw011 (Great Goooogly Mooogly!)
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To: usshadley

Yes, and George Bush and the Mossad flew the airplanes into the WTCs. Charlie Sheen told me.


48 posted on 12/29/2009 9:59:47 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

that was Mussolini who was so good with the railroads.


49 posted on 12/29/2009 9:59:52 PM PST by usshadley (Orwell was an Optimist)
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To: RobinMasters

Ron Paul is a moron. He just proved it.


50 posted on 12/29/2009 10:00:55 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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