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Islam is the new religion in rebellious Mexican state Chiapas
Radio Netherlands Worldwide ^ | 12/17/09 | Jan-Albert Hootsen

Posted on 12/30/2009 5:22:34 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Islam is the new religion in rebellious Mexican state Chiapas

Published on : 17 December 2009 - 11:13am | By RNW English section

More and more Mayan and Tzotzil people in the Mexican state Chiapas are becoming Muslims. It's fifteen years since the Zapatista uprising in Chiapas and the region has undergone some profound changes. One of them is the emergence of Islam as a new religion in the state. The Muslim community, dominated by converted Mayans and Tzotzils , is slowly gaining ground.

By Jan-Albert Hootsen

Molino de los Arcos is one of the poorest neighbourhoods of San Cristóbal de las Casas, the second largest city in Chiapas and popular with tourists for its colonial beauty. The barrio is ethnically almost entirely indigenous, with Tzotzil Mayan as the dominant language. On Fridays, though, you can hear the slow, monotonous Arab chants of Muslim prayer. In a wooden shack, painted with Arab religious phrases, some twenty Tzotzil Muslim families have established a small place of worship.

"This is where we cleanse our spirits and pray to Allah. Not everyone came today, some people have to work," Imam Salvador Lopez Lopez smiles. "But we are doing well. Our community is still small, we are maybe two hundred, but little by little we're growing."

Lopez converted to Islam in 1995 and adopted the Arab name of Muhammad Amin. He was one of the first Tzotzils to embrace the religion. He describes his conversion as a tough, two-year period of soul searching. "There is a lot of ignorance in Chiapas about Islam. Nobody really knew what it was and at first I myself wasn't sure it was the thing for me. My family didn't agree with it either at first. It was hard."

Alternative to capitalism

There have always been Muslims in Mexico, but they were usually immigrants from Muslim countries in Africa and the Middle East. It wasn't until 1995, when Spanish Muslims led by Aureliano Pérez left for Mexico to spread the word of Allah, that Mexicans themselves started converting to Islam.

The arrival of the Spanish can be seen in direct relation to the uprising of the Zapatista rebels in Chiapas, in 1994. They saw the impoverished state as fertile ground for the principles of Islam. Indigenous Mayans and Tzotzils have led marginalised lives ever since the Spanish conquest in the 16th century. They live in extreme poverty, suffer exploitation by corrupt governments and racism by white and mestizo Mexicans (people with mixed European and Native American racial origin). Alcoholism among indigenous Mexicans is rampant.

The Mayans and Tzotzils belong to the Murabitun movement within Sunni Islam, which upholds a strict ban on the use of alcohol and profits made on money lending. It has proven to be attractive to indigenous Chiapanecos as a viable alternative to capitalism. Yet Muhammad Amin stresses that Islam is not just for indigenous Chiapanecos: "Allah makes no distinction between race. We welcome everyone."

Zapatist Muslims

The social component in Chiapaneco Islam did present itself in its early days though, when the Muslims under Nafia offered to support the Zapatista rebels of Subcomandante Marcos. Many Zapatista rebels, who fight for indigenous rights and land reform, are Tzotzils. A number of them did convert, even though Marcos was hesitant at first. The Mexican government was alarmed and started monitoring the presence of Islam. Former president Vicente Fox even accused them of having links with Al-Qaeda, although solid proof was never presented.

Muhammad Amin chuckles when he refers to these accusations. "We have no links whatsoever with any foreign group of Muslims, and we have no problem with any other religion here. Islam means peace, we respect everyone around us."

That doesn't mean that Christians responded positively to their new competitors. Andrés Ferrer, who now goes by the Arab name of Muyahid, converted to Islam in 1998. He's had to overcome a lot of prejudice:

"Many people reacted badly, because they have no idea what Islam is. Some of them even called us terrorists. My own family called me crazy!"

Islamic pizza restaurant

Despite the opposition Islam is doing well in Chiapas. The Muslims have opened a madrasah or Qur'an school, an Islamic mission, a carpenter's shop and a pizza restaurant. They teach Arabic to new converts and even organize the hajj or pilgrimage to Mecca, which many indigenous Muslims have already undertaken. Islam is growing slowly but surely, says Imam Lopez:

"In this particular mosque there are seventeen Islamic families now. Gradually more people are opening themselves up to the word of Allah. Yes, I think we are here to stay."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: amnesty; chiapas; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; importingterror; islam; mexico; redjihad; wot

1 posted on 12/30/2009 5:22:34 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Many people reacted badly, because they have no idea what Islam is. Some of them even called us terrorists. My own family called me crazy!"

If the exploding panties fit...

2 posted on 12/30/2009 5:26:31 AM PST by rhombus
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To: TigerLikesRooster

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3 posted on 12/30/2009 5:28:55 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (Nobody move, Nobody get hurt)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Islam is the new religion in rebellious Mexican state Chiapas.

Great.

4 posted on 12/30/2009 5:30:09 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for posting.


5 posted on 12/30/2009 5:31:56 AM PST by PGalt
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To: TigerLikesRooster
“...They teach Arabic to new converts and even organize the hajj or pilgrimage to Mecca, which many indigenous Muslims have already undertaken...”

And I thought this was supposed to be an “impoverished area”. How many pesos does a jet flight to Saudi Arabia cost? How many years does an average indigenous farm worker have to work to be able to afford such a pilgrimage unless it is heavily subsidized from outside.

6 posted on 12/30/2009 5:34:13 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is very, very bad news. The only saving grace of our open border to date is: most of our immigrants aren’t muzzies.


7 posted on 12/30/2009 5:34:13 AM PST by samtheman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Sauds have spent $80 BILLION proselytizing Salafi Sunni Islam (sometimes referred to as Wahhabism) worldwide since 1979. The Salafi sect is of course that which gave birth to Al Qaeda and Lashkar e Taiba.

Note also that Islam, like communism, is being touted as an alternative to capitalism...


8 posted on 12/30/2009 5:34:41 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: TigerLikesRooster
the Murabitun movement within Sunni Islam

This group was brought to Chiapas by a Spaniard who had been a leader of ETA (Basque terrorist organization) and found an even better terrorist organization. It's popular among young Spanish leftist university students.

One of the problems with Chiapas was that the Catholic bishop was very leftwing (he has since been replaced). Pentecostal groups started coming in and setting up churches, and Chiapas had a relatively large group of Protestants among these Indians. But the Pentecostals have a "retention problem," and many of their converts either drift away from religion entirely or move on to another religion, in this case, Islam. The Spanish-based leftist Islamic group was making really aggressive attempts to recruit them, and it was obviously successful.

Supposedly Prince Charles, btw, is not a sufi but a member of this marabitun movement, like many of the European elite.

9 posted on 12/30/2009 5:36:59 AM PST by livius
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I am seeing a pattern of events that appear possibly to be a determined effort to promote, and contain our military interests to this hemisphere in the near future.

The events in S. America, and the Caribbean cannot all be by chance.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 5:40:37 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...Call 'em What you Will, They ALL have Fairies Living In Their Trees.)
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To: samtheman
The only saving grace of our open border to date is: most of our immigrants aren’t muzzies.

So far. That will change over time.

11 posted on 12/30/2009 5:43:17 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Like a cancer it spreads


12 posted on 12/30/2009 5:43:29 AM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: rockinqsranch

its like Red Dawn, all over again.
( I agree with your statement and am not trying to be a smartass)


13 posted on 12/30/2009 5:43:45 AM PST by ronniesgal ( I miss George Bush. Hell, I miss Bill Clinton!!)
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To: samtheman

How would we even know?


14 posted on 12/30/2009 5:43:49 AM PST by glide625
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To: All

Some may have seen this but it can’t hurt to have another look.

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3901/pub_detail.asp

Now tell me we don’t have a serious freaking security problem at the border.


15 posted on 12/30/2009 5:45:44 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: livius

“Supposedly Prince Charles, btw, is not a sufi but a member of this marabitun movement, like many of the European elite.”

Not that I give two sh*ts about the royals, but I wonder if that is what’s driving the queen’s looking to William as the next king. Charlie does seem to have a soft spot in his heart for islam.


16 posted on 12/30/2009 5:45:53 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

‘Sunni Islam, which upholds a strict ban on the use of alcohol and PROFITS made on money lending.’

No wonder the left is eerily quiet on Islam and its beliefs.

They will ignore Islam brutality toward women as long as the word PROFITS is considered naughty.


17 posted on 12/30/2009 5:47:38 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: samtheman

Very bad indeed. This is going to spread. We’ll have an islamic state on our border before we know it and everywhere islam borders on the West there’s major trouble.


18 posted on 12/30/2009 5:48:01 AM PST by bergmeid (obama. With a small o.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Whats going to happen is the general public is going to take the law into their own hands on these invaders and the Federal government will start shooting Americans defending America.


19 posted on 12/30/2009 5:51:16 AM PST by Eye of Unk (Phobos, kerdos, and doxa, said the Time Traveler. “Fear, self-interest, and honor.”)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
The left will go along with most anything as long as it's anti-American. I wish there was some way to kick them all out before they finish destroying this country. They hate America, they only stay here because it's the best free ride they'll ever get anywhere.
20 posted on 12/30/2009 5:52:30 AM PST by mrsmel
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21 posted on 12/30/2009 5:54:40 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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To: Monterrosa-24
. How many pesos does a jet flight to Saudi Arabia cost?

We pay for it, every time we fill our cars up with gas...

22 posted on 12/30/2009 5:56:09 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is already a “trend”, largely unidentified as such.
This is not the first and won’t be the last.
It looks strange to our eyes to see a headline like this
but why should it?
Mohammed replaces Marx, even in Mexico.
Hundreds of thousands of greivance-stricken American blacks
have “converted”, inside or outside of prison......
I wouldn’t have expected otherwise than that Islam would go right into populations already schooled in rebellion against existing authority, and give them the same structure that Marxism used to give its would-be converts.


23 posted on 12/30/2009 6:11:03 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: livius

livius:

Are you saying that Prince Charles is a Muslim???


24 posted on 12/30/2009 6:11:35 AM PST by LSUfan
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Markos33

Eh, Rip out a heart, chop off a head.

Different stroke, same demon.


25 posted on 12/30/2009 6:15:33 AM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: ScottinVA

This development strengthens our argument about the dangers of open borders-—seems unlikely on the face of it, but so did everything that’s happened for the last decade.


26 posted on 12/30/2009 6:15:36 AM PST by supremedoctrine
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This will not end well.


27 posted on 12/30/2009 6:18:03 AM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

no es bueno


28 posted on 12/30/2009 6:44:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

mue loco...


29 posted on 12/30/2009 7:08:53 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: TigerLikesRooster

>> Muhammad Amin chuckles when he refers to these accusations. “We have no links whatsoever with any foreign group of Muslims, and we have no problem with any other religion here. Islam means peace, we respect everyone around us.” <<

Really? Y’all just found Spanish Korans in the library, and it sparked your curiosity?


30 posted on 12/30/2009 7:32:54 AM PST by dangus (Nah, I'm not really Jim Thompson, but I play him on FR.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I thought the multiculturalist liberal elites said it was wrong to bring foreign ideologies to indigenous peoples.

What they really meant was Judeo-Christian Western Civilization needed to be rejected.

31 posted on 12/30/2009 8:30:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Question authority!Who is the University of East Anglia to drive the 'Global Climate Change' agenda?)
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To: bergmeid

An intifada in the Americas...


32 posted on 12/30/2009 8:35:15 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Beware the Green Menace, the socialists warning you of global warming under your bed are hysteric.)
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To: livius

I ran a search and found Prince Charles has often spoken up for Islam, but could not find his actually being a Muslim anywhere.

Where did you get the info on his conversion to Islam?

Here is what I found:
http://www.truthformuslims.com/articles/marion_2006_02_prince_charles_promotes_islam.htm
http://www.sunnah.org/nl/v0104/prince.htm


33 posted on 12/30/2009 8:36:09 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Naziism, Communism and Terrorism, War has not solved anything)
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34 posted on 12/30/2009 9:11:56 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Once again, Marxism, Islam and anti-Americanism appear to merge.


35 posted on 12/30/2009 9:16:24 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: TigerLikesRooster
The cancer of islam is spreading.
36 posted on 12/30/2009 9:28:29 AM PST by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Amazing...all the Mexicans I know love life way too much to be attracted to the religion of death.


37 posted on 12/30/2009 4:04:58 PM PST by cookcounty (Let us not speak of the honor of men. Rather, let us bind them with the Constitution. --Jefferson)
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To: cookcounty; gubamyster; happygrl; pissant; Calpernia; blackie; DoughtyOne; All

“Amazing...all the Mexicans I know love life way too much to be attracted to the religion of death.”

Plenty of them are attracted to the ‘Saint of death’, Santa Muerte religion...and you’re lucky you don’t know any of them.

[snip]Santa Muerte worship is now spreading across the border to cities such as Houston, Chicago, and Los Angeles, where middle-class Mexicans say they’re trying to reconnect with a part of their heritage.
http://www.pri.org/theworld/?q=node/24818

We’ve been looking at this ‘muslim’ situation in Mexico for years. It’s growing in more than just the mentioned area. There are many articles about this. Another growing segment is latino mosques in the USA.

http://www.islamawareness.net/LatinAmerica/

http://www.islamawareness.net/LatinAmerica/hispanic_growing.html


38 posted on 12/31/2009 7:46:37 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: AuntB

Wake Up America!!


39 posted on 12/31/2009 8:53:03 AM PST by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: shibumi
Different stroke, same demon.

Very insightful.

We contend with powers and principalities.

40 posted on 12/31/2009 11:58:46 AM PST by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: AuntB

That you far your tireless attention to this subject matter.


41 posted on 01/02/2010 11:45:39 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Good news. HC bill will not cover illegal aliens. Bad news. 20-35 million will be made citizens.)
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