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Attorney wants to argue eligibility in Washington (Obama birth-certificate)
WND ^ | December 28, 2009 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 12/30/2009 12:55:02 PM PST by americanophile

A lawyer who has fought government attorneys in courthouses across the nation over the issue of President Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the White House now wants the dispute moved to the nation's capital, since that's where government lawyers have said there would be proper jurisdiction.

Orly Taitz is asking the California judge who earlier dismissed her clients' claims on jurisdictional issues, noting that the proper venue would be Washington, to simply move the case there.

"During the October 5 motion hearing pursuant to the motion to dismiss due to lack of jurisdiction, the moving parties, the assistant U.S. attorneys David DeJutte and Roger West have argued that they believe that the proper jurisdiction for this case is the District of Columbia," Taitz argues in a new court filing before Judge David Carter.

"On October 29 this case was dismissed for want of jurisdiction only and was never heard on the merits, as this court noted in the above order that the proper jurisdiction is the District of Columbia court," she wrote.

Taitz told WND today that there could be no opposition from the U.S. attorneys since they had argued for the jurisdiction in Washington, D.C., and the case then could be heard on its merits.

WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama's status as a "natural born citizen." The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

Some of the lawsuits question whether Obama was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country,

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; jurisdiction; obama; orlytaitz; washington; whackamole

1 posted on 12/30/2009 12:55:03 PM PST by americanophile
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To: americanophile

That’s the wrong arguement.

His commie daddy is the prize.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 1:03:31 PM PST by devistate one four (Back by popular demand: America love or leave it (GTFOOMC) TET68)
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To: americanophile

Just file the case in D.C.

Why ask for a transfer? If Defendant claims the case was dismissed with prejudice in CA, then state the judge ruled the proper place to file was in D.C.


3 posted on 12/30/2009 1:05:38 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


4 posted on 12/30/2009 1:06:02 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: americanophile

Dick Cheney needs to tell us the truth. He knows.


5 posted on 12/30/2009 1:16:03 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: americanophile

It would simply amaze me if he could find a Judge in the DC Court system that would take on such a case.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 1:21:15 PM PST by Venturer
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To: americanophile

Since Zero’s new Department of Classified Documents is charged with releasing documents over 25 year old, perhaps it could release his long form birth certificate, school records, travel records, health records, financial records that are over 25 yr old. /sarc


7 posted on 12/30/2009 1:23:07 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: americanophile
Orly Taitz is asking the California judge who earlier dismissed her clients' claims on jurisdictional issues, noting that the proper venue would be Washington, to simply move the case there.

There is no case to move any longer. She filed it, she argued it, it was dismissed. The time to request a change of venue would have been before she got her case tossed out and not after.

8 posted on 12/30/2009 1:23:57 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: americanophile

Orly is half-addled, so otherwise interesting issues never go anywhere.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 1:26:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Baynative

It lets Interpol do this, but it’s at Interpol’s option. The US Fedguv can’t force them. If Interpol gets crosswise enough with Bummer, well shoot, they might volunteer.


11 posted on 12/30/2009 1:28:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: All

JB Williams
Canada Free Press

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup. The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because they see that none of their leaders are doing anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders are NOT going to stop this thing.

(Snip)
WHO WILL SAVE FREEDOM?
A brave few… This is how it was in the beginning, how it has always been and how it will be.

(Snip)
DR. ORLY TAITZ, Phil Berg and Gary Kreep, ALL OF WHOM HAVE MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP.

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A PRECIOUS FEW, BUT THEY EXIST… and the walls are indeed closing in on Obama and his evil cabal. IF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FAIL TO GET BEHIND THESE BRAVE FEW WHO ARE SEEKING PEACEFUL REDRESS, ALL THE PEACEFUL OPTIONS WILL EVAPORATE AS IF THEY NEVER EXISTED. WE WILL RETURN TO A PRE-1776 AMERICA OVERNIGHT..

Do YOU fear Obama?
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

___________________________________

A precious few, indeed. Lets get behind those few brave patriots who are out there in the trenches every day working to prove Obama’s inelgibility:

Dr. Orly has put her life’s blood into this fight. SHE HAS MADE DEFENDING THE CONSTITUTION AND THE AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE A PERSONAL AMBITION, IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONSTITUTION LEADERSHIP FROM COWARDLY REPUBLICANS AND THE SCOTUS.

Dr. Orly is the ONLY one out there in the trenches EVERY day hitting Obama on multiple fronts and trying to bring him down. It is reported that she is more than $8,000 in debt from using her own funds for expenses in her flights across the U.S for interviews, speeches, serving papers and meeting with officials.

She has even gone to Isreal and Russia to spread the message about Obama’s inelgibility!

She states the case expertly, including the bc and natural born citizen aspect, when not abused by the U.S. state-controlled media. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132880

Sure, Dr. Orly makes mistakes. We all do. But Dr. Orly is no dummy. How many of us could go to a foreign country, learn 5 languages, establish a successful dental practice, a successful real estate business AND pass the California state bar- one of the hardest in the U.S. to pass?
She may be a ‘mail order’ attorney and not a Harvard lawyer, but she IS an attorney with all the rights and privilages of a Harvard lawyer nevertheless!
The point is; she has the passion, the zeal, the courage of her convictions and the love of America and its freedoms (unlike many of our ‘great’ attorneys and ‘patriots’ who criticize her) that will not let her give up!
She is exhausted. She is nervous. She is frustrated. It is reported that she gets by on 4-5 hours of sleep per night, and her family is very worried about her health- as well as her safety.
She makes mistakes. But she will NOT give up. She will keep on until she gets it right.

So let’s get behind this great little Russian refugee and great American patriot.
Stop tearing her apart. The Obots on FR don’t need our help.
The obots are scared to death of this little lady and her determination. That’s why they come out in droves all over the net on forums, chat rooms and even the national news to attack and ridicule.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcChG5pRTOE&feature=player_embedded


12 posted on 12/30/2009 1:36:12 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

“There is no case to move any longer. She filed it, she argued it, it was dismissed. The time to request a change of venue would have been before she got her case tossed out and not after.”

Maybe she’s citing the hallowed school yard precedent of the “do over.”


13 posted on 12/30/2009 1:37:47 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: patriot08

Of course they know.

Yes, things like this can hold together for a while but eventually something breaks. I hope it breaks in time to save our nation.

I’ve written to my state and federal reps twice about this. All of them are RINOS. Both times I get the same idiotic responses. Weenies! All of them. In the primaries I will vote against them all. I don’t care who is running.


14 posted on 12/30/2009 1:42:54 PM PST by wintertime
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To: patriot08
I've written to Fox and Clear Channel and the individual conservative yappers. I am more disgusted with them than I am the mainstream media.

When tyranny comes these yappers will spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

15 posted on 12/30/2009 1:44:34 PM PST by wintertime
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To: americanophile

Not this whack job again. Please, can we possibly get a sane, competent attorney to champion this cause?


16 posted on 12/30/2009 1:49:18 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: tired_old_conservative
Maybe she’s citing the hallowed school yard precedent of the “do over.”

Ah yes, the hallowed legal concept of operor super.

17 posted on 12/30/2009 2:05:15 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: americanophile

Taitz is over her head. Let me explain this again:

Nearly every state (if not every state) has a very short statute of limitations for challenging the eligibility of candidates for elected office, whether at the federal, state, or local level. Although the specific procedure varies from state-to-state, the statute of limitations usually begins to run when the candidate’s names is placed upon the ballot either for the primary or general election. The statute of limitations is short (usually thirty days or less) because elections are expensive and therefore, elibility disputes need to be decided BEFORE the ballots are printed and the candidate spends big bucks on the campaign. Oily Taitz should have filed the eligibiliy lawsuit on behalf of Dr. Keyes, not after Obama won, but at the time that Obama’s name was placed upon the ballot. IMHO, OT really needs to get out of the litigation business becaue while her heart may be in the right place, she really doesn’t have a clue what she is doing.


18 posted on 12/30/2009 2:05:53 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: antiRepublicrat
Aaarrgh. For some reason, whenever Orly-I-can't-compose-an-admissible-motion-to-save-my-derrière-Taitz's name comes up, the words of Mr. Reagan's "Nation at Risk" commission come to mind: "If an unfriendly foreign power attempted to impose on American the mediocre educational performance that exists today, we might have viewed it as an act of war..."

In other words, if this woman didn't exist, the Left would have had to invent her. (And who's to say that's not precisely what happened?)

19 posted on 12/30/2009 2:24:54 PM PST by Tenniel2 (Much intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep -- Saul Bellow)
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To: Labyrinthos
You have a valid argument, but it's not an issue here.

The case that Taitz wants transferred was dismissed, with prejudice, on Oct. 29. It can't be transferred, anymore than a failure in a course at an accredited college can be transferred for credit to another accredited college.

This is just more of her nonsense, aimed at smokescreening her incompetence and riling up the ignorant to believe the judicial system is rigged against them.

20 posted on 12/30/2009 2:41:02 PM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Labyrinthos
becaue while her heart may be in the right place, she really doesn’t have a clue what she is doing.

Uh, something rather than nothing, such as yourself, well except for all the nit picking you do here.

21 posted on 12/30/2009 3:29:13 PM PST by itsahoot (Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Ping to Orly’s latest head-scratching legal misadventure.


22 posted on 12/30/2009 3:30:33 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Venturer

It would simply amaze me if he could find a Judge in the DC Court system that would take on such a case.


The US Dirtrict Court for the District Of Columbia is one of the most liberal district courts in the nation. It is dominated by Clinton and Carter appointed justices.
THAT is the court Taitz wants to go before?


23 posted on 12/30/2009 3:30:56 PM PST by jamese777
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To: itsahoot
“Uh, something rather than nothing, such as yourself, well except for all the nit picking you do here.”

Uh, no, she's actually doing nothing in this instance.

As others have pointed out, she's asking for something in this instance that can't legally be done. She's simply wasting her time and everyone else’s. There are a number of other stupid and hopeless things she could be doing that might at least theoretically conform to procedure.

24 posted on 12/30/2009 3:35:51 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: jamese777

Yup: Doesnt make sense does it?


25 posted on 12/30/2009 3:38:16 PM PST by Venturer
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It’s really not about the birth certificate, the fact remains his mother was too young to pass citizenship directly to BHO. Unless his BC shows another (older) mother or an American father it doesn’t mean squat.

We should be filing lawsuits against every Secretary of State or Lt. Gov. for conspiracy to commit election fraud and the members of the electoral college who voted for this Marxist Muslim.


26 posted on 12/30/2009 3:51:34 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: tired_old_conservative
“Maybe she’s citing the hallowed school yard precedent of the “do over.””

Not a good course of action, IMHO.

All the US Attorney General has to do is tell her “No backsies.”

27 posted on 12/30/2009 4:14:38 PM PST by El Sordo
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To: mlo; Non-Sequitur; parsifal; Pilsner; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; MilspecRob; ...

Thanks, Drew68.

Ping to an Orly Taitz whack-a-mole thread. The adventure continues in 2010.


28 posted on 12/30/2009 6:29:06 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Honesty, Character, & Loyalty still matter)
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To: browardchad

Mr. Praline: ‘E’s not pinin’! ‘E’s passed on! This case is no more! it has ceased to be! ‘E’s expired and gone to meet ‘is maker! ‘E’s a stiff! Bereft of life, ‘e
rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed ‘im to the perch ‘e’d be pushing up the daisies! ‘Is metabolic processes are now ‘istory! ‘E’s off the twig! ‘E’s kicked the bucket, ‘e’s shuffled off ‘is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-CASE!!


29 posted on 12/30/2009 7:29:41 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: MilspecRob

Maybe Orly will accept a slug instead.

If it talks.


30 posted on 12/30/2009 7:52:47 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: bjorn14

It’s really not about the birth certificate, the fact remains his mother was too young to pass citizenship directly to BHO. Unless his BC shows another (older) mother or an American father it doesn’t mean squat.

We should be filing lawsuits against every Secretary of State or Lt. Gov. for conspiracy to commit election fraud and the members of the electoral college who voted for this Marxist Muslim.


It IS about the birth certificate if Obama was truly born in Hawaii. If he was, then his parents’ ages and nationalities are irrelevant to his natural born citizenship.

There was a lawsuit in Indiana (Ankeny et al. v. Mitch Daniels, the Governor of Indiana) which attempted to sue for putting Obama on the ballot and for allowing Democratic Electors to vote for him. Ankeny lost the suit and on appeal the Court of Appeals of the state of Indiana ruled that Obama qualifies as a natural born citizen.

The following excerpt is from the Indiana Court’s decision: “Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States [] natural-born citizens.”15
You can read the Court’s entire decision in context here:
http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf
By the way, Obama’s long form, vault copy birth certificate can be subpoenaed by any District Attorney or state Attorney General in the nation. Its just that none have taken that step.


31 posted on 12/30/2009 8:56:52 PM PST by jamese777
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To: bjorn14
It’s really not about the birth certificate, the fact remains his mother was too young to pass citizenship directly to BHO. Unless his BC shows another (older) mother or an American father it doesn’t mean squat.

That may be true but only if he was born overseas.

32 posted on 12/31/2009 4:08:33 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: jamese777

What proof did the court have that said BHO was eligible other than third-party hearsay? His book “Dreams of My Father” is increansingly becoming a work of fiction.

Besides, Wong v. Ark was decided before the Nationality Act of 1952 (repealed 1986)


33 posted on 12/31/2009 4:38:18 AM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: americanophile

GO TAITZ GO

You da girl................


34 posted on 12/31/2009 6:51:58 AM PST by deport (63 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: patriot08
But Dr. Orly is no dummy.

A deluded lunatic perhaps.. but no dummy?

35 posted on 12/31/2009 6:57:12 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

You’re wasting your time here. Go back to DU.


36 posted on 12/31/2009 8:34:40 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: jamese777

What I want to know is how a birth certificate case got through the court system and to the appellate level without a motion for discovery for Obama’s original Birth Certificate?


37 posted on 12/31/2009 8:45:25 AM PST by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: patriot08

This is an Obamabat thread. It has attracted the whole bevy of Obamabats.


38 posted on 12/31/2009 9:45:56 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

WTH is an Obamabat?


39 posted on 12/31/2009 9:52:44 AM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Uncle Chip
It has attracted the whole bevy of Obamabats.

And a whole squad of ignorant n00bs as well.

40 posted on 12/31/2009 9:54:29 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: verity

One of Obama’s flock —


41 posted on 12/31/2009 10:18:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

I see! :-)


42 posted on 12/31/2009 12:03:18 PM PST by verity (Obama Lies)
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To: Uncle Chip

This is an Obamabat thread. It has attracted the whole bevy of Obamabats.


Are they akin to the “Titzbats”


43 posted on 12/31/2009 12:07:43 PM PST by deport (62 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: bjorn14

What proof did the court have that said BHO was eligible other than third-party hearsay? His book “Dreams of My Father” is increansingly becoming a work of fiction.

Besides, Wong v. Ark was decided before the Nationality Act of 1952 (repealed 1986)


In Ankeny v The Governor of Indiana the plaintiffs stipulated that Obama was born in Hawaii but based their argument of his ineligibility on the fact that his father was not a US citizen. Therefore no discovery concerning his birth certificate was necessary.
The original trial judge and the appellate court rejected that argument. The appellate court noted that President Chester A. Arthur’s father was born in Ireland, immigrated to Canada and then immigrated again to the US.


44 posted on 01/01/2010 1:50:47 PM PST by jamese777
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