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Alabama smokers to get fire-safe cigarettes that go out when not puffed
al.com ^ | 12/30/09 | ap

Posted on 12/30/2009 3:00:36 PM PST by Nachum

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Smokers in 12 states will be lighting -- and relighting -- fire-safe cigarettes designed to go out when they're not puffed as the result of new laws that go into effect Friday.

The states are among the last to require that all cigarettes meet standards first implemented by New York six years ago. The states with laws going on the books this week are Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; cigarettes; firesafe; smokers

1 posted on 12/30/2009 3:00:38 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Look for unintended consequences as the flame has to be brought closer and closer to the face to relight.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 3:02:28 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Nachum

Makes me wonder just what is in it that makes it go out, and what they will find it does to you years from now.


3 posted on 12/30/2009 3:02:40 PM PST by AirForceMom (Merry Christmas!!)
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To: Nachum

Buy more matches.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 3:02:52 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Nachum

I’m series, folks. Get on the e-cigarette bandwagon while you can.
e-cigarette-forum.com.
I’m currently using the 510 with Johnson Creek fluids. YUMMIES!


5 posted on 12/30/2009 3:02:58 PM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Nachum

It’s a damned pain in the ass.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 3:03:49 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Nachum

Just switch to e-cigarettes. They are awesome.


7 posted on 12/30/2009 3:03:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: AirForceMom

Carpet glue.


8 posted on 12/30/2009 3:08:19 PM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Just switch to e-cigarettes.

No; nicotine suppositories.

9 posted on 12/30/2009 3:09:39 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Obey the law, or you'll go to prison and be raped.)
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To: Nachum

Texas also has this type law going into effect Friday.

Also bacterial meningitis vaccines required for new students living on campus and HIV testing for expectant mothers are among the new laws that target health issues

Welcome to the land of gov’t control.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 3:12:40 PM PST by deport (63 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: AirForceMom

There are “rings” placed inside the cigarette that act as a firewall of sorts. What those rings are actually made of seems to be a matter of debate. One source I read about said it is simply a less porous form of paper that won’t burn readily unless you draw air through it (i.e. take a drag). Another source I looked at said it is a ring of plastic called EVA - the stuff they make foam rubber, hot glue sticks, and some kinds of plastic wrap.

All I know for *sure* is that my friends and family who smoke feel it is a major pain in the rear.


11 posted on 12/30/2009 3:12:55 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: Nachum

Brilliant! Make them safer by adding more chemicals!


12 posted on 12/30/2009 3:13:31 PM PST by mylife (Obama is a fine orator, and Janet Napalitano is cunning linguist)
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To: RandallFlagg

Ugh, looking into the e-cigarette now!


13 posted on 12/30/2009 3:20:33 PM PST by AirForceMom (Merry Christmas!!)
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To: deport

Mandatory HIV testing for expectant mothers? Even if they are not high risk?

Damn. All newborns were tested for HIV in NY State for a while (not sure if they still test). The thing is the baby would be given a number and the mother would not be told about the testing or the results of the test.

Glad my baby years are behind me. I’d tell them to go pound sand. What is the penalty for refusing?


14 posted on 12/30/2009 3:22:49 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: RandallFlagg
I also heard it was carpet glue...I knew it was making me sick!

But, as a fellow "vaper" of nearly two months, don't forget that the FDA will be coming for us soon!

15 posted on 12/30/2009 3:26:38 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I don’t know the penalty. I just read this in the paper yesterday and it didn’t give any details. I looked for other info but didn’t find it and didn’t want to go searching the Leg. regs.


16 posted on 12/30/2009 3:26:53 PM PST by deport (63 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: mylife
Make them safer by adding more chemicals

Actually, they are taking the sodium/potassium nitrate (saltpeter) out of the paper. They are the little particles that burn and fizzle as you take a draw. There should not be as much nitrogen oxides and other chemical byproducts etc. in the smoke.

17 posted on 12/30/2009 3:27:36 PM PST by Species8472 (Limit all politicians to two terms, one in office and one in prison. (Illinois Already Does This)
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To: DemforBush

I agree with your friends and family, but want to add that the live ash tends to fall off the smoke, which makes smoking while driving a much more interesting event...

I’ve picked up eCigs, but they’re not exactly satisfying, although I’ll use them while flying commercial, and at whatever new job I land.

I think that somebody decided to increase the sales and profits of the disposable lighter companies, but I guess that’s just my poor attitude...


18 posted on 12/30/2009 3:29:03 PM PST by benewton (Life sucks, then you die)
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To: Species8472

Well, Alright then.
I guess.


19 posted on 12/30/2009 3:32:10 PM PST by mylife (Obama is a fine orator, and Janet Napalitano is cunning linguist)
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To: Nachum

I have one ashtray that I purchased at the dollar store. Because of the angle that the cigarette sits in the try, it ALWAYS goes out if I don’t pick it up soon enough and draw a puff on it.


20 posted on 12/30/2009 3:34:50 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife
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To: AirForceMom

I got the 510 from here:
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/e-cig-accessories-510-titan-products.html
Get 2 Titan Mega Manual batteries for $19.99
1 5-pack of 510 atomizers for $39.99
A charger for $14.99 and some cartridges for $9.99

The fluid here:
https://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/category/juice
1 30ML JC original flavored bottle for twenty bucks.

That should last you for about a month, then just order more juice. Compare this $110 with the price of cigarettes, the savings is great. The initial startup costs are kinda high, but after that it’s just a matter of upkeep of your supplies.


21 posted on 12/30/2009 3:37:11 PM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Nachum

I bet BIC was behind this~~~wink


22 posted on 12/30/2009 3:39:27 PM PST by FreeperFlirt
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To: RandallFlagg

I have the janty stick and also use the Johnson creek juice. As soon as I get a back up e-cig, I’m stopping all tobacco.

I showed it to my supervisor and plant manager so there would be no problems if they saw rings of water vapor coming from me. My supervisor ended up getting one to.

Its not exactly like a real cig. takes a little getting used to. I have cut my smoking in half.


23 posted on 12/30/2009 3:46:21 PM PST by roving
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To: RandallFlagg

Thank you for the info. So many web sites on this, I appreciate knowing which one to check out.


24 posted on 12/30/2009 3:50:22 PM PST by AirForceMom (Merry Christmas!!)
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To: roving

I use my ecig all the time everywhere I go -even at work in the offices. Never a complaint.
I never even expected to quit smoking in the first place. I got it as a backup in case my tobacco seeds wouldn’t sprout. I was going to grow my own tobacco after Obama passed the SCHIP bill. After the first puff, I never went back (Read my tagline).

My last cigarette was May 23rd. After 30 years of smoking.


25 posted on 12/30/2009 3:55:28 PM PST by RandallFlagg (30-year smoker, E-Cigs helped me quit, and O wants me back smoking again?)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Yeah; near the barcode, if it says FSC, you got it.

You are forced to keep dragging on the cigarette regularly, or it goes out in the ashtray.

I think it was part of the effort to stop the dreaded "Global Warming Caused By Humans" stuff; same as stopping cow farts.

The cigarettes now start tasting like cow farts with the FSC-process, but they're still smokeable....

26 posted on 12/30/2009 4:01:16 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1
Yep, the "FSC" is stamped on the bottom of the box, opposite the dispensing end. I don't believe these 'fire safe' cigs are worth the trouble at all, because they don't work.

I make the rules in my shop; and the rule is you can smoke while you work. But never in front of a customer, and no butt's on the floor.

My own rules forced me to become a re-lighter. A common practice with me for years now. These new cigs don't go out when you want them to; I've seen several times when after one of two puffs I had to dose the smoke, then came back to it after 1 - 5 minutes. Still going! Someone who still has access to both 'fsc' and non-fsc check me on this.

And of course they do go out sometimes when you don't want, just for the annoyance factor I think. But they often produce a surprising flame up when re-lit.

I don't even want to think about how long I've been smoking. A couple days ago I ordered one of these e-cigarettes and I hoping to cut back and quit soon.

27 posted on 12/30/2009 5:34:09 PM PST by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
Someone who still has access to both 'fsc' and non-fsc check me on this.

All RJ Reynolds, and Phillip Morris Cigarettes are now FSC. They no longer manufacture any with the old non fsc paper. IIRC, unless you can find some old cartons, there are only about three brands in the US that still make non FSC.

I have had the stupid FSC ones Cherry bomb on me while driving & burned holes in my clothes. The non FSC's never did that. And I've heard of one Freeper who dumped an ashtray about fifteen minutes after he had finished an FSC cigarette. Apparently, there was still a live ash in there, and it set his trash can on fire.

28 posted on 12/30/2009 7:09:25 PM PST by sockmonkey
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