Posted on 12/30/2009 8:24:51 PM PST by AtlasStalled
For years, many Americans have dismissed the battle between Mexico's government and drug cartels. * * * But this problem, funded largely by U.S. drug users, has rapidly transformed into a battle against a terrorist insurgency, and victory is every bit as important to Mexico's security as is America's battle against al-Qaeda. Defeat for Mexico means nothing less than a descent into chaos. This might sound alarmist, but the tactics being employed by Mexico's drug gangs, not to mention their spread into U.S. border cities, is truly cause for alarm. * * * Drug gangs are challenging the government for control. The violence and death has far exceeded what U.S. troops have faced in Iraq and Afghanistan. The deaths – from hangings, beheadings, dismemberments, executions – are no less hideous than al-Qaeda's twisted form of Islamic "justice." * * * [B]acking away from this fight must not be an option as long as thugs and terrorists are vying against the government for control of Mexico's streets.
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Don’t worry. Obama will bow to them too and all will be well.
It really seems like our best option is to legalize drugs, and let the government control it.
Defeat for Mexico means nothing less than a descent into chaos.Maybe they can hire some no-talent leftist drooler to slap up another anti-US mural to commemorate the chaos.
Drugs corrupt lives. Young, and old, but especially the young and naive, the young and stupid.
Drugs kill. Drugs ruin lives that could have been far better than with the drugs.
The purveyors of drugs are similar to the jihadists, and often are the jihadists. They care not about the human being, only the profit, and the accumulation of wealth and power they reap in dealing the drugs. They are inhumane, slimeballs, of little, or no character at all. They deserve the death they purvey the naive, and the stupid.
No, this isn’t something that one would wish to legalize and turn over to our government to control anymore than we would wish our healthcare be governed by that same lot.
There have been small and medium sized Mexican cities that have lost control to drug cartels.
The idea that the Mexican federal government is in danger of losing sovereignty is complete BS.
Drugs lords used to buy themselves out charges.
Drug lords used to have “private” luxury jails.
Durg lords used to walk out the front door of jails with bribes.
This does not happen any more.
That is why the violence has rathched up.
Getting arrested has serious consecuences now.
Mexico’s crime problem now is no worse than they hey day of the American mob.
Well, the do-nothing approach you piously pontificate is getting us in a deeper and deeper hell-hole, with all the money and all the power going to those who are the most willing to be the most evil.
We can’t stop people from being evil, but we can regulate their activities and lower our deficits.
I agree with everything you state except for one thing: “Mexico’s crime problem now is no worse than they hey day of the American mob.” Although the mob controlled many urban cities and rural counties throughout America for decades through corruption of primarily local officials — although of course there were state and national politicians corrupted by the mob to great advantage for them — the violence in the streets in Mexico against federal police and army soldiers is unique, and is an armed insurgency against the Mexican federal government. In America, regardless of how much the mob controlled, how many politicians and law enforcement it corrupted and black mailed, and how much violent crime it committed, it still never engaged in a violent war against law enforcement when the heat finally started coming down in the 1970s and 1980s.
Instead of legalizing drugs and letting the government control it-how about labeling drug offenders as enabling terrorist activity and send them of to Gitmo as enemy combatants.
Instead of legalizing drugs and letting the government control it-how about labeling drug offenders as enabling terrorist activity and send them of to Gitmo as enemy combatants.
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I’m all for a mega-tough approach and execute them all if they are guilty. But we don’t have the stomach for that as a nation.
If we REALLY locked down the borders as we should, perhaps we could strangle the traffic. But we have created an enormously lucrative black market for drugs, and the “entrepreneurs” would find a way around the constraints.
We can’t stop people from being evil
No, but we can execute them and select for better stock.
Drug trafficers are not an armed insurgency against the government.
Mexico is not Columbia where the drug cartels through campaing contributions,political assasination,and funding FARC almost brought down the national government.
The reason the mob never attacked the US Army is because the Army was never used against the mob.
And they sure did attack police and judges.
The equivalnet of Rico and a systematic approach to dealing with organized crime like the US started in the 70 and with much greater success in the 80’s has not begun in Mexico.
They still handle things piecemeal.
They have no RICO law and can’t convict crime bosses for the simple fact of belonging to a criminal conspiracies.
There is no doubt the paralels are not perfect becuase the US was long a democracy before the mafia entrenched themselves.
Mexico is trying to figure out democratic elections, due process,constitutional rights,privacy rights in the middle of what is prohibition era gangsterism.
Sure glad congress got that fence erected and land mines planted./sarc
I don’t think a concentrated, focused counter drug effort on the part of existing government programs is the do-nothing approach you indicate in your war for drugs.
So you think surrender to the druggies, and more government regulation, bigger government, and all that goes with it is the answer to the problem.
It’s a proven road to Hell.
Yeah, like that’s gonna really happen! Get real, mass murderers don’t get executed, what makes you think drug dealers will?
The war on drugs is nothing more than Prohibition ver2.0
We’ve got all the problems that came with Prohibition ver1.0 and more!
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php - website for Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
“So you think surrender to the druggies, and more government regulation, bigger government”
How about the big a$$ police state that the WOD has given us, and civil forfeiture law?
Don’t you think it would be saner to sell drugs over the counter, like maybe in a pharmacy? People are going to find a way to kill themselves if they really want to, legal or not.
good point...kidnapping as a lifestyle, beheadings, police corruption, gov't corruption, sex traffic, ___ Muerte, La Raza (US contingent), arms smuggling, etc...make the mob look like pikers!
You NorCal dope smokin’ Libertarians aren’t worth wasting my time with. Take a hike.
I have to agree though that Petaluma is a great place.
For your information, my drug of choice is vodka.
I would suggest that you refrain from ad hominem attacks if your arguments are weak. It’s a liberal tactic and unbecoming to a conservative.
I’m sick of the police state and the gangs that go with the WOD and that’s my position. Interdiction has FAILED, so the logical alternative is to control it.
For your information, my drug of choice is vodka.
I would suggest that you refrain from ad hominem attacks if your arguments are weak. It’s a liberal tactic and unbecoming to a conservative.
I’m sick of the police state and the gangs that go with the WOD and that’s my position. Interdiction has FAILED, so the logical alternative is to control it.
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