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Pastor Rick Warren urgently asks faithful for $900,000 (Ask Your Boy Obama For It)
Orange County Register ^ | 12-30-2009

Posted on 12/30/2009 8:46:19 PM PST by My Favorite Headache

Pastor Rick Warren urgently asks faithful for $900,000 December 30th, 2009

It’s been a heck of a year for mega-pastor/bestselling author/power broker Rick Warren of the enormous Saddleback Church. It started out with Warren’s invocation at the historic inauguration of one President Barack Obama - and it concludes with Warren asking his flock to cough up nearly $1 million in just two days to keep the church out of the red.

“Dear Saddleback Family,” begins today’s missive from Warren. “THIS IS AN URGENT LETTER unlike any I’ve written in 30 years. Please read all of it and get back to me in the next 48 hours.

“I have thrilling news to share with you below but first some seriously bad news: With 10% of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated. Still, with wise management, we’ve stayed close to our budget all year. Then… this last weekend the bottom dropped out.

“On the last weekend of 2009, our total offerings were less than half of what we normally receive - leaving us $900,000 in the red for the year, unless you help make up the difference today and tomorrow.”

The church does not make its financial information public, so it’s impossible to tell just how big of a hole in the boat this $900,000 represents. A spokeswoman for Warren said the church does not release detail on its finances, so it’s hard to put the shortfall in context. (Suffice to say it may not represent a terribly significant portion of Saddleback’s annual budget, and that his personal appeal may well close the hole, and then some.)

In his letter, Warren goes on to detail the church’s accomplishments for the year, and then says:

It’s obvious that your giving through your church family is providing more “bang for the buck” than anything else you could support. It is no wonder that our ministry was named the top religious newsmaker of 2009 as reported by Associated Press.

YOU CAN HELP SAVE THE DAY 3 WAYS BEFORE JAN 1.

1. Click HERE right now to and give as large an end-of-the-year gift as you can to help avert this crisis. If we all do what God leads us to do, we’ll all be a part of a miracle. 2. Mail in your gift today. Gifts must be postmarked in 2009 to be posted as 2009 gifts for tax purposes. Mail to: 1 Saddleback Parkway, Lake Forest, CA 92630. 3. Drop your gift in the box at the front door of the Ministry Center at 1 Saddleback Parkway so you know for certain we get it TODAY or Thursday….

I love you so much. It is a deep privilege to be your pastor….

And, perhaps, a pain to be his accountant.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apostasy; pastor; purposedriven; rickwarren; saddleback; seekersensitive
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1 posted on 12/30/2009 8:46:21 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache

Let him get it from his Islamic buddies, this guy is a disgrace to Christianity.


2 posted on 12/30/2009 8:47:48 PM PST by Islaminaction
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To: My Favorite Headache

Did he ever confess that he had been bamboozled and how by Oback Arama?


3 posted on 12/30/2009 8:48:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

>> it concludes with Warren asking his flock to cough up nearly $1 million in just two days to keep the church out of the red

Screw him. Anyone who cuddles up to Bambi is of the devil.


4 posted on 12/30/2009 8:48:31 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Maybe he should sell his house and belongings and donate them to the church. It’s been suggested before...


5 posted on 12/30/2009 8:48:46 PM PST by madison10
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To: My Favorite Headache

How about some stimulus money? Why not, Warren helped a Muslim get elected president.


6 posted on 12/30/2009 8:48:51 PM PST by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: Islaminaction

is he a limo pastor?


7 posted on 12/30/2009 8:49:51 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: My Favorite Headache

after his up the arse , like homosexual comments to bozo then he will not see any of my money


8 posted on 12/30/2009 8:50:08 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: My Favorite Headache

after his up the arse , like pro homosexual comments to bozo then he will not see any of my money


9 posted on 12/30/2009 8:50:35 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: My Favorite Headache

For those so inclined to donate to a Christian cause, once your personal pledges/tithe and FR’s quota is reached one might think of the ACLJ (not ACLU, ACLJ). It is NOT tax deductible so you don’t have to rush to do it before the new year, but Bummercare is going to fill Jay Sekulow’s plate pretty full I expect.


10 posted on 12/30/2009 8:50:45 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

Never cared for Pastor Warren’s brand of mushy Christianity, there were no mushy Christians at the Circus Maximus.

That said, I hope they manage to raise the funds, 900k is not a great deal of money for Church of that size.


11 posted on 12/30/2009 8:51:08 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: madison10

>> Maybe he should sell his house and belongings and donate them to the church.

“But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.” —Mt. 19:22


12 posted on 12/30/2009 8:52:00 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: My Favorite Headache
It is no wonder that our ministry was named the top religious newsmaker of 2009 as reported by Associated Press.

Sounds like he's more interested in making news than tending to his congregation. Maybe there's a connection between his friendship with O and the dropoff in contributions...

13 posted on 12/30/2009 8:52:10 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: manc

Whatth thith? Rick Warren thaid thomething GAY?


14 posted on 12/30/2009 8:52:31 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

The LORD giveth and the LORD taketh away. Blessed be the Name of the LORD. His truth is NOT for sale.


15 posted on 12/30/2009 8:53:06 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Nervous Tick

Yes, exactly that phrase and from that Person. :)


16 posted on 12/30/2009 8:53:21 PM PST by madison10
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To: My Favorite Headache
I am in a pissy ass mood tonight.. Be well Rush...
17 posted on 12/30/2009 8:54:24 PM PST by GSP.FAN (These are the times that try men's souls.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

The church doesn’t release it’s finances.....

Not to the public, or not to the public AND its members?

I know exactly what the debts and cash flow in and expenses are in my church. Any member can see that information. It’s updated every month.

I’d say Rick’s probably been extravagant with the money coming in. Why don’t you match them, Rick, with all the book money you’ve made? What good does all that money do if it just sits in your bank account? What good does it do after donating a ton of money to political candidates like Obama? Do a $450,000 matching grant challenge and put a dollar of yours up against a dollar of your members?


18 posted on 12/30/2009 8:54:55 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: My Favorite Headache

ping


19 posted on 12/30/2009 8:55:01 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: madison10

Some speculate the rich young ruler was the future Apostle Paul.


20 posted on 12/30/2009 8:55:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’m surprised that they don’t make their finances public. My parish publishes its budget every year (including support for the Catholic school that is attached). The buildings are all old (church and school) so there are big maintenance expenses that come up annually.


21 posted on 12/30/2009 8:55:51 PM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: padre35

“..900k is not a great deal of money for Church of that size.”

He said in the letter that they were okay until this weekend’s offerings, which were half of what they thought they would be. So they were expecting $1.8 million for a weekend!!?? I imagine they were looking at the last-minute payers for the quarter or something? (I know on our offering we pay by the month, and the building fund on the quarters).


22 posted on 12/30/2009 8:56:00 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: GSP.FAN

McCain would have been 100 times better. Shoot, my tomcat would have been 100 times better.


23 posted on 12/30/2009 8:56:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Nervous Tick

TWO DAYS before the end of the year, I need $900,000 from you... and PS, I love you all so much

It seems Rick has learned a thing or two about crises from Obama. Create a crisis and then take advantage of it...?


24 posted on 12/30/2009 8:57:04 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: 4rcane

I don’t think so. I believe he takes no salary and gioves a large portion of his book royalties to the church or other Christian purposes; or at least he used to.

I also think he has gotten away from the purpose of the church on too many occasions. Maybe he needs to focus on spreading the Gospel and not a social gospel.


25 posted on 12/30/2009 8:57:08 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: My Favorite Headache

This is a small number for a church this size. The average attendance is 22000. 900,000 is about 40 per person. Hardly a huge stretch for a church.


26 posted on 12/30/2009 8:57:20 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: 21twelve
until this weekend’s offerings, which were half of what they thought they would be

Christmas cheer is EXPENSIVE ya know....

27 posted on 12/30/2009 8:57:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: SeaHawkFan

I’d suffocate in a social-gospel-only church.


28 posted on 12/30/2009 8:58:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

Saddleback needs $900,000 - I guess that makes them Brokeback.


29 posted on 12/30/2009 8:59:12 PM PST by hometoroost (Farouk Napolitano)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Warren is a POS. Did the faithful at his church finally wake up and leave his clown church? I bet they did. He is an Obama and Muslim lover. Phony prosperity preacher con artist scum.


30 posted on 12/30/2009 8:59:22 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I would not attend a church that fails to openly disclose the financials on a regular basis.


31 posted on 12/30/2009 8:59:31 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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**“On the last weekend of 2009, our total offerings were less than half of what we normally receive - leaving us $900,000 in the red for the year, unless you help make up the difference today and tomorrow.” **

That’s what happens when you bakc Obortion Obama!


32 posted on 12/30/2009 8:59:43 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: hometoroost

LOL!


34 posted on 12/30/2009 9:00:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

**“On the last weekend of 2009, our total offerings were less than half of what we normally receive - leaving us $900,000 in the red for the year, unless you help make up the difference today and tomorrow.” **

That’s what happens when you back Obortion Obama!


35 posted on 12/30/2009 9:00:20 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Some speculate the rich young ruler was the future Apostle Paul.

Have wondered, given Paul's devotion to Judaism and his great teacher if he was, indeed, in Jerusalem at the time of the Passover/Crucifixion, even a witness. When on the road to Damascus and Jesus spoke to him, Paul already seemed to know who Jesus was. Maybe that was because any soul would recognize Jesus in a burst of light.

Sorry for the temporary thread hijacking.

36 posted on 12/30/2009 9:00:27 PM PST by madison10
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To: My Favorite Headache

**“On the last weekend of 2009, our total offerings were less than half of what we normally receive - leaving us $900,000 in the red for the year, unless you help make up the difference today and tomorrow.” **

That’s what happens when you back Obortion Obama!


37 posted on 12/30/2009 9:00:39 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Nervous Tick
Screw him. Anyone who cuddles up to Bambi is of the devil.
+++++++++++

Look familiar?


38 posted on 12/30/2009 9:00:59 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
McCain would have been 100 times better. Shoot, my tomcat would have been 100 times better.

I believe you about McCain. What is wrong with your cat that he wouldn't be 200 times better?

39 posted on 12/30/2009 9:01:24 PM PST by magslinger (Cry MALAISE! and let slip the dogs of incompetence.)
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To: hometoroost
Saddleback needs $900,000 - I guess that makes them Brokeback.

You beat me to it!

40 posted on 12/30/2009 9:02:06 PM PST by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I’ve never understood these mega-churches. I’ve felt more faith and love for God on FR, so many wonderful people, and it doesn’t cost me a dime.

I’m a monthly for the news and info. The rest is icing on the cake. :)


41 posted on 12/30/2009 9:02:12 PM PST by mplsconservative
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No problem... just to point out that God is a God of the second chance, in incidents that don’t need any speculation because they’re spelled out in the bible or in personal witness today. I hope Warren gets his head on straight (not thtraight).


42 posted on 12/30/2009 9:03:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: My Favorite Headache

Write a check yourself, Rick. You’re rich enough. And make up the difference by cutting back on your grocery budget, which is clearly very substantial.


43 posted on 12/30/2009 9:03:33 PM PST by ottbmare (I could agree wth you, but then we'd both be wrong.)
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To: padre35

No mushy Christians in places like Greece, Italy, the Balkans and other areas who were murdered and enslaved by Muslims hundreds of years ago. The LIBERAL US Catholic church needs to learn that with importing Somalis and 50+% of Catholics voting for a muslim. Many Catholics fought and died to keep Europe Christian.

Warren is slime. I hope his church collapses. He is a fraud.


44 posted on 12/30/2009 9:03:43 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: SeattleBruce

Yeah, Crist is another one who could vanish tomorrow and I wouldn’t miss him.


45 posted on 12/30/2009 9:04:30 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Stop dissing drunken sailors! At least they spend their OWN money.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Some speculate the rich young ruler was the future Apostle Paul.

Where did you hear that? I thought I was the only one who had contemplated that. There is nothing new under the sun I guess.

46 posted on 12/30/2009 9:04:59 PM PST by Theophilus (Shall the throne of iniquity have fellowship with thee, which frameth mischief by a law?)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I would be more than happy to send Mr. Warren the “not one penny” that Obama promised to not increase on my tax obligations.

Oh go ahead and spend some of that hope and change that Obama gave you, Warren.


47 posted on 12/30/2009 9:05:30 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: My Favorite Headache

I would be more than happy to send Mr. Warren the “not one penny” that Obama promised to not increase on my tax obligations.

Oh go ahead and spend some of that hope and change that Obama gave you, Warren.


48 posted on 12/30/2009 9:05:36 PM PST by Gator113 (Obama is America's First Failed Black Pres-dent.....)
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To: mplsconservative

It’s so easy for a megachurch to get into “worship of the numbers.” Early Christianity was composed of scads of little private congregations; they would have laughed at our modern megachurches and cathedrals.


49 posted on 12/30/2009 9:06:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’d suffocate in a social-gospel-only church.
++++++++++++++++++

They are not that. If anything they’re one of the ‘seeker friendly’ churches - which may, at times, be almost as bad. In the brand of Willow Creek in Ill...and a hyper version of the church growth movement. Not all of this sort of thing is bad - just too much focus on it, and not enough on truth...

“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”

Jesus never sacrificed one, for the other...


50 posted on 12/30/2009 9:06:54 PM PST by SeattleBruce (God, Family, Church, Country - Keep on Tea Partiers - party like it's 1773!)
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