Western troops accused of executing 10 Afghan civilians, including children

Times on line ^ | 12/31/09 | Jerome Starkey In Kabul

[Nachum]

American-led troops were accused yesterday of dragging innocent children from their beds and shooting them during a night raid that left ten people dead.

Afghan government investigators said that eight schoolchildren were killed, all but one of them from the same family. Locals said that some victims were handcuffed before being killed.

Western military sources said that the dead were all part of an Afghan terrorist cell responsible for manufacturing improvised explosive devices (IEDs), which have claimed the lives of countless soldiers and civilians.

[darkwing104]

[2banana]

In Jalalabad, protesters set alight a US flag and an effigy of President Obama after chanting “Death to Obama” and “Death to foreign forces”.

0bama's war...

[Gene Eric]

ping

[Shaun_MD]

No no no you’ve got it all wrong. It was a wedding being held in a baby milk factory. Baby milk for kittens and puppies. The puppies were stomped and the kittens thrown into blenders.

[gura]

What's wrong, we didn't do it at halftime like the Taliban?

[BuffaloJack]

100% Bullsh!t.
Our guys would not do this. I would believe that it was muzzies in American uniforms though.

[MestaMachine]

Not in this life. This is insane!

[HiTech RedNeck]

This isn’t the American style. More likely they would end up in some huge orphanage.

[444Flyer]

They LIE!

[HiTech RedNeck]

Also, I wonder if “schoolchildren” is by US standards where it is customary for young men and women in their late teens to be in senior high (or high, depending on local nomenclature). By that point they might well be serving in US forces.

[jessduntno]

[Shaun_MD]

Yes and in 20 years we’re back to square one

[darkwing104]

They were handcuffed and why waste perfectly good Ammo.

My bet is they crossed the local tribal leader and he wanted them eliminated. This staged event and the story would draw attention away from the warlord. The crime of educating little girls warrants the death penalty from many mussies.

[BobL]

You mean that we’re finally starting to play by their rules.

If so, this war will end very soon.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Be careful, if it’s not absolutely clear you’re kidding, some folks with arugula in their pants might ban you.

[Shaun_MD]

Notice how my comment got deleted? lol

[Red6]

These stories ALMOST always turn out to be complete bullshit and I can list a bunch of examples.

i.e.

The Iraq wedding attack story. Turns out those were actually bad guys.

The Iraq Apache 30mm engagement of 4 men in a field. Turns out they were trading arms and one guy in the unedited video can be seen trying to pull a MANPADS from a burlap bag before he's shot.

There have been several Pakistan predator missile attacks where locals make all sorts of claims and it turns out the ones making these claims are actually on the periphery, playing with the bad guys and just didn't happen to be squatting in the building when it was blown up.

And on and on and on..................

These stories usually surface because we give a high degree of credibility to incredible local sources, because make belief reporters and locals play up a concocted story and are themselves often involved in some bad stuff or simply looking for a scandalous story to sell........

[HiTech RedNeck]

My bet is they crossed the local tribal leader and he wanted them eliminated.

American troops wouldn't consent to play along with this game. But impostors dressed as same might. That would be a good way to "fake out" an unsuspecting family.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Heed my warning; it happened to me.

[Red6]

sorry, wanted to say un-credible in the second to last sentence.

[Shaun_MD]

“American troops wouldn’t consent to play along with this game. But impostors dressed as same might. That would be a good way to “fake out” an unsuspecting family.”

Yep

[Eagles6]

The one thing that I was afraid of when this whole thing started was that in the end muslims would be muslims and side with muslims against the Infidel.

Thank you hamid karzai for siding with the enemy after our Military and CIA spilled their blood in the sand of your 7th century shiite hole to bring you freedom and try to drag you barbarians into the 21st century. FU!

[Shaun_MD]

Duly noted. At one point I would have called for carpet bombing and battlefield nukes so I am getting better...

[HiTech RedNeck]

It pays to learn the local idiom. Talk about glassing the place over and all you’ll get will be yawns.

[Enchante]

“As the joint assault force entered the village they came under fire from several buildings and in returning fire killed nine individuals,” he said.

so nice of the so-called reporter to include a one sentence statement of what are sure to be the FACTS........ after a whole article of Islamo-jihad propaganda, at least a fleeting reference is permitted to what is far closer to the truth ---- and maybe Tali-scum "staged" an atrocity after the raid in order to provide this kind of propaganda for the gullible and the vicious.

[skr]

I’m wondering how old the “children” were, too, not that it’s believable that our soldiers would shoot handcuffed people.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Yes, our Talibuddies would have absolutely no compunction about ambushing a family of a rival tribe.

[MarMema]

And a dozen more about the Serbs, including photos taken for pure lying propoganda.

Islamics know all too well how to play this game.

[Shaun_MD]

I was sitting here thinking that same thing. Nuclear bombs versus bullets in the head. Same result.

[Tzimisce]

Hey libs: it’s your military now.

You take all the credit AND ALL THE BLAME.

Unfortunately - they’re probably going to scapegoat the military. :(

[Red6]

These stories are even less believable than the status quo “police brutality” accusations that are near automatic nowadays. A PCP crazed repeat offender is pulled over after a high speed chase, refuses to cooperate, mouths off to the officer and resists arrest, and is consequently beaten to a pulp as Rodney King was, then he turns around and accuses the COPS of police brutality and that this was unprovoked, race based, blah blah blah......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King

Most of these stories from Iraq and Afghanistan are no different. Those making these accusations are most often even in bed with the bad guys or they simply have an ax to grind in some other way.

[AliVeritas]

Amen. I’m for the glass parking lot.

[Track9]

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[clintonh8r]

Our enemies know how to use the system, now...just make some outrageous allegations and we’ll stop fighting while the investigation gains momentum....

[lapsus calami]

 

Oh, they've always known how to manipulate the game, what was hanging them up in the past was that they didn't have near the willing accomplices - and with such a high profile at that - to roll over and assist their dirty work. All of this BS IS affecting morale - I'm SURE they're overjoyed about that - but, everyone soldiers on regardless. They have their oaths and know that someway, somehow, this obscenity that is the Zero administration too shall pass.

 

[Pinkbell]

I post the BS meter, but someone already beat me to it.

[cranked]

Staged. Notice how these same protestors never protest when the Taliban or al Qaeda do/does the same thing?

Same old garbage from the lefties at the Times; they did the same during the Bush years in Iraq.

[Karliner]

Me thinks the killing their own will be a huge topic, albeit BS this coming year. BS....a S***pit of BS.

[Eagles6]

Yeah but not with “commander zero” in charge.

[shield]

Bullshit

[Track9]

I counted six stories Jerome Starkey wrote for AlterNet the notoriously leftest publication. Look into this guy. He could be another Reuters type set up or even working with local “runners”.

[Track9]

Here's another one of Starkey's luminous headlines

Rumsfeld's renegade unit blamed for Afghan deaths Special Forces group implicated in three incidents that claimed the lives of hundreds of innocent civilians / MarSOC was set up by former defence secretary despite opposition from within the Marine Corps By Jerome Starkey in Kabul

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/rumsfelds-renegade-unit-blamed-for-afghan-deaths-1685704.html

[GeronL]

BS detector should have smoke and sparks pouring out of it

[gleeaikin]

The article mentions school books. I wonder at what madrassa they were studying? Also some of the “students” were of an age that might participate in warfare.

[Track9]

Check out his website

http://www.jeromestarkey.com/

The guys suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

[GeronL]

Most of his braincells must be non-functional.

All he seems to do is rewrite the enemy propaganda points.

[darkangel82]

I don't believe this [expletives deleted] nonsense.

[FreedomPoster]

Nice find. I’ll go with GeronL’s #45.

I wonder if it will matter now that 0bama is President? It is possible this will get handled much differently by our press than it would have while Bush was President. Likely so, even.