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Mayo Says: Hold The Medicare
IBD's Capital Hill ^ | 12/31/2009 | Ed Carson

Posted on 12/31/2009 3:44:30 PM PST by Slyscribe

The Mayo Clinic will stop accepting Medicare patients at one of its primary care clinics in Arizona. Why? The government doesn’t pay enough: [snip] This is nothing compared to what might happen under Democratic health overhaul plans, which would slash Medicare spending by nearly $500 billion over 10 years.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; elderly; healthcare; mayo; mayoclinic; medicare; seniors
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1 posted on 12/31/2009 3:44:32 PM PST by Slyscribe
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


2 posted on 12/31/2009 3:47:19 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Slyscribe
Signs of things to come.


3 posted on 12/31/2009 3:48:26 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Slyscribe

It will be interesting to see how the government tries to retaliate.


4 posted on 12/31/2009 3:49:07 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Slyscribe

Operator: Excuse me, Captain Oveur, but I have an emergency call on line 5 from a Mr. Hamm.
Captain Oveur: Alright, give me a Hamm on 5, hold the Mayo.


5 posted on 12/31/2009 3:49:31 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Slyscribe
The Democrats are implmenting a new strategy. They were the "tax and spend" party. Now they are the tax and don't spend for the reason the tax was levied. I've paid social security and medicare "taxes" for the past 48 years. LBJ "borrowed the social security cash for financing the Viet Nam War and now we are running out of funds for my retirement. Medicare was an additonal levy to pay for my senior health care needs. They are now "reduce" Medicare payments to fund ABORTIONS!

They are consistently WRONG! We need to kick them out!

6 posted on 12/31/2009 3:50:50 PM PST by Young Werther ( ("Quae Cum Ita Sunt - Julius Caesar "Since these things are so!"))
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To: Slyscribe

The only Uncle I have in Canada that has the money, went to the Mayo clinic years ago and it saved his life.

Canadians will be just as screwed as Americans will be very soon.


7 posted on 12/31/2009 3:51:46 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Slyscribe

The Rats have a solution to this: just make a law FORCING them to accept whatever the government decides to give them.


8 posted on 12/31/2009 3:51:59 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: Slyscribe
Practicing Medicine is a Privilege, not a right.

Failure to obey dictatorial commands can and will result in loss of medical license, fines and or prison time.

( give it about 6 months )

9 posted on 12/31/2009 3:52:11 PM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: Slyscribe
I thought (and I may be wrong about this) that everyone over 65 MUST sign up for Medicare. You can have a supplemental plan, but Medicare is a must.

Does this mean that this Mayo facility will not be treating those over 65 unless they pay for the visit out of pocket?

10 posted on 12/31/2009 3:53:11 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: Slyscribe

I read the article. As a Canadian, I don’t understand something. Couldn’t a patient use Medicare and then top it up with an additional cash payment to satisfy Mayo’s requirements? Or is that not allowed under the Medicare program?


11 posted on 12/31/2009 3:53:38 PM PST by Kennard
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To: Leisler; Blood of Tyrants
We are not that far away from your suggestions right now.

The Mayo Clinic has one significant advantage that no other medical group has, the size of their foundation.

They can basically lose money on the practice of medicine and still come out on top.

However, watch the government try to start taxing foundations. There has already been some discussion about it concerning large university endowments.

12 posted on 12/31/2009 3:55:17 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: Slyscribe

I bet it is that huge cut in cardiology reimbursements that takes place tomorrow.


13 posted on 12/31/2009 3:56:54 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Slyscribe

VOTES have CONSEQUENCES.....


14 posted on 12/31/2009 3:58:54 PM PST by goodnesswins (Become a Precinct Committee Person/Officer....in the GOP...or do NOT complain.)
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To: johniegrad

There is no Bill of Rights to practice medicine. ( Left think )


15 posted on 12/31/2009 4:00:13 PM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: Abby4116

Right on both counts.


16 posted on 12/31/2009 4:02:24 PM PST by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: OregonRancher
Just because you have to sign up doesn't mean you have to use it.

You don't like Medicare then get another policy and use it.

17 posted on 12/31/2009 4:06:03 PM PST by Flint
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To: johniegrad
see how the government tries to retaliate

Nationalize the hospitals, draft all the doctors into the military. Do it by presidential decree. Most people won't say a thing.

18 posted on 12/31/2009 4:06:11 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: Slyscribe
Huge story. This needs to be splashed everywhere. Democrats can pass a trillion dollar stimulus, they can bail out Goldman Sachs but they can't fund Medicare. This is a killer political issue. Its not just those who are on Medicare who are affected. Lots of kids have adjusted their lives and finances to use the current system for their parents. Lots of kids pay a lot for their parents even with Medicare. Now they and their parents are going to get hit with more.

If a Republican congress had done this, it would be wiped out the next election.

19 posted on 12/31/2009 4:07:16 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: Kennard
Couldn’t a patient use Medicare and then top it up with an additional cash payment to satisfy Mayo’s requirements? Or is that not allowed under the Medicare program?

The patient can get supplemental Insurance. The problem is that far too many Americans have adopted an entitlement mentality...They expect to get everything for free and they vote to get more freebies. Too many people have made a career of living off of the dole.

The taxpayers are getting to the point where we can no longer support them. It's become a way of life for so many able bodied people. Also, the Medical Professionals need to make a living also. Hard work should be rewarded.

You can only do so much charity work before you yourself becomes a Charity Case.


20 posted on 12/31/2009 4:08:29 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Kennard
I clicked through to the Bloomberg article and found this:

A Medicare patient who chooses to stay at Mayo’s Glendale clinic will pay about $1,500 a year for an annual physical and three other doctor visits, according to an October letter from the facility. Each patient also will be assessed a $250 annual administrative fee, according to the letter.

21 posted on 12/31/2009 4:08:38 PM PST by Kennard
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To: johniegrad
It will be interesting to see how the government tries to retaliate.

That's easy. Punishment shalt be additional taxes and expensive regulations.

The critters are so transparent. If they get their public "option" through the sausage grinder, the next step is to force everyone onto the "option" by making everything else too expensive.

22 posted on 12/31/2009 4:13:48 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Right Wing Assault

Make medical licenses, nurse and other certificates, federal.

No one forces you to be a Physician, nurse, tech......duty, greedy Dr’s, 60 Minutes horror stories, NY Times/MSM. Making the New Jews/People’s enemies,ect.

I don’t see any problem with crystallizing these views with in the American sheeple.


23 posted on 12/31/2009 4:15:02 PM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: Slyscribe

bump


24 posted on 12/31/2009 4:15:53 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: Slyscribe
That's okay; wait until the Regulations say you can't charge over X $ for treatment, to drive ALL non-government insurance out of business.

That's the PLAN.

25 posted on 12/31/2009 4:17:43 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: darkwing104

So if I paid the Mayo supplemental, above, what would happen when I’m rushed to the hospital with chronic Conservatism? Could the surgeon, as the Bloomberg article suggests, refuse to treat me because I am a MediCare patient? I guess the answer is that there is probably some supplemental plan for that.


26 posted on 12/31/2009 4:17:59 PM PST by Kennard
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To: Slyscribe

for later


27 posted on 12/31/2009 4:20:45 PM PST by arkady_renko
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To: Slyscribe

Only a matter of time for most doctors to quit taking it.


28 posted on 12/31/2009 4:28:19 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Kennard
Couldn’t a patient use Medicare and then top it up with an additional cash payment to satisfy Mayo’s requirements? Or is that not allowed under the Medicare program?

This is illegal under medicare. This is called balance billing and if a physician does this, he is subject to $10,000 fine per incident and 2 years in prison for each occurence. So the government literally holds us at the point of a gun, nice, eh?

29 posted on 12/31/2009 4:31:13 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Abby4116

And when you sign up....They take $96.40 out of your SS check every month.


30 posted on 12/31/2009 4:32:39 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Slyscribe

Didn’t Our Dear Reader have a speech at said Mayo Clinic link

http://healthpolicyblog.mayoclinic.org/2009/09/09/mayo-clinic-reaction-to-president-obamas-speech-september-9/


31 posted on 12/31/2009 4:36:37 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne Get Well Rush!)
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To: gas_dr

Welcome to Menglecare. Thank all your Obama voting friends out there. When the rest of America grows a pair and we decide to take back the country, make sure to kick each of them in the groin as a reminder of what this bastard has done to our country and tell them the are getting off lucky.


32 posted on 12/31/2009 4:39:22 PM PST by dumpthelibs (dumpthelibs)
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To: Kennard
Could the surgeon, as the Bloomberg article suggests, refuse to treat me because I am a MediCare patient?

The surgeon can refuse for any reason but won't in this case, the Surgeon knows he will be getting paid by anyone with a supplemental policy. AARP made a fortune by selling Medicare Supplemental Insurance to the elderly. The reason why they supported the Obama Hellcare plan it would grant them a monopoly on Mdicare supplemental Insurance for Senior Citizens.

If anyone needs to see a Doctor for anything there is always a way but not always free.

I don't know if there is a supplemental Insurance policies in Canada as they are in the U.S.


33 posted on 12/31/2009 4:48:17 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Abby4116

You are wrong. Everyone gets part A(which is hospital only)but part B and D are optional and A does not require a payment.


34 posted on 12/31/2009 4:51:12 PM PST by calex59
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To: calex59

If you don’t sign up for Part A of Medicare (hospitalization), you lose your Social Security benefits. THere’s a lawsuit over this— Hall v. Sebelius. See www.thefundforpersonalliberty.org. for details.


35 posted on 12/31/2009 4:55:40 PM PST by browniexyz
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To: Slyscribe

The big azz hippo needs the money for shoes. #*)&#@#


36 posted on 12/31/2009 4:57:29 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Kennard

Not allowed.


37 posted on 12/31/2009 5:51:31 PM PST by Ethrane ("semper consolar")
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To: darkwing104

yep


38 posted on 12/31/2009 6:04:34 PM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: Slyscribe

Interesting.

More and more private physicians are doing the same.


39 posted on 12/31/2009 6:17:27 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: johniegrad

Just look at what they did to Bank of America chairman Ken Lewis after he testified (under oath) that he had been threatened by them.


40 posted on 12/31/2009 6:29:49 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Kennard

YOu can privately contract with a doc who does not accept medicare but it is a major hassle,,lots of paperwork.


41 posted on 12/31/2009 6:42:33 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: gas_dr

the doc and patient can privately contract to get a larger payment but it is a bitch to do.


42 posted on 12/31/2009 6:44:48 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: gas_dr

the doc and patient can privately contract to get a larger payment but it is a bitch to do.


43 posted on 12/31/2009 6:44:56 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: Abby4116

a person must have plan A (in hospital coverage). everyone can opt out of Medicare plan B.

Thats it.


44 posted on 12/31/2009 6:47:02 PM PST by southparkNationalist (I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. I will face my fear and let it pass through me.)
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To: Slyscribe
The plan is simple.

Reduce health care's share of the economy from 17% to 10%.

By no longer funding the last year of life.

45 posted on 12/31/2009 6:57:48 PM PST by Vet_6780 ("I see debt people")
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To: browniexyz

I guess you didn’t read my comment. I said part A was a given, but part B and D were optional.


46 posted on 12/31/2009 7:36:36 PM PST by calex59
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The Rats have a solution to this: just make a law FORCING them to accept whatever the government decides to give them.

That was the law in Massachusetts under Mike Dukakis for a year or so. They had to repeal it after hundreds of doctors left for less enslaving conditions elsewhere.

Unfortunately, there is nowhere else to flee when they try this on a nation-wide basis. Most older doctors will probably just retire. Younger ones may move into other careers.

47 posted on 12/31/2009 8:24:08 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: Abby4116

You are not required to sign up for medicare when turning 65. But if you sign up at a later age, your monthly premium is considerably higher than if you had started at 65.


48 posted on 12/31/2009 9:10:04 PM PST by Oldhunk
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To: Vet_6780

Not always easy to determine what is the last year of life.


49 posted on 12/31/2009 9:53:21 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: darkwing104

How is it an entitlement mentality for me to expect to be able to use the Medicare program when I have been paying for that many years, as it is automatically removed from my paycheck???? FREE??? Living off the dole??? I’ve been paying for Medicare and will be paying for it for the next 10 years, at least, and at this rate, like Social Security, which I have also paid for, will never be able to use it.


50 posted on 01/01/2010 6:22:04 AM PST by crowsnest
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