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Washington slaps fee on plastic shopping bags
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.af09375837a21e6bf486e0c8aed43c9a.01&show_article=1 ^

Posted on 12/31/2009 6:57:21 PM PST by CSA Rebel

Residents of the US capital may have to dig a little deeper into their pockets when they go grocery shopping once the city slaps a five-cent levy on each plastic bag issued at the checkout line.

The measure, which takes effect on January 1, 2010 and is the first such initiative in the United States, seeks to make consumers bear the brunt of clean up costs for the bags which currently are dispensed for free with a customer's purchases.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bluezones; grocery; recycle; taxincrease

1 posted on 12/31/2009 6:57:21 PM PST by CSA Rebel
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To: CSA Rebel

Am I the only one on earth that uses these shopping bags for trash bags in our small trash cans at the house? We also use them to hold our used diapers. Do they really want me to start buying trash bags for this same purpose?

I know this is petty, but for crying out loud... can’t the liberals just leave well enough alone?

Happy 2010 everyone!!


2 posted on 12/31/2009 6:59:19 PM PST by CSA Rebel
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To: CSA Rebel

Do they still make paper grocery bags?


3 posted on 12/31/2009 7:00:20 PM PST by Mmogamer (<This space for lease>)
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To: CSA Rebel

Better to cut down a tree to make a bag than to use a waste byproduct from refining gasoline. Idiots.


4 posted on 12/31/2009 7:06:25 PM PST by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: CSA Rebel

Will those libs wear those paper bags over their heads?


5 posted on 12/31/2009 7:08:11 PM PST by max americana
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To: CSA Rebel

liberals can’t leave well enough aone, nope. It’s against their religion.


6 posted on 12/31/2009 7:10:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: CSA Rebel

Next time you go shopping in Washinton, bring a Hefty bag, that ought to make the lefties wince...


7 posted on 12/31/2009 7:14:26 PM PST by GraceG
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To: CSA Rebel
Plastic grocery bags are very useful and do no harm to the environment whatsoever. Cloth bags, OTOH, collect and breed germs like E. coli, and contaminate groceries unless washed frequently. Paper bags are still the best, but the people in charge of these lunatic decisions have no one's best interests at heart.

I look forward to reading about the depression in retail sales in the hellhole once called " The Nation's Capitol."

8 posted on 12/31/2009 7:16:11 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: CSA Rebel

Better yet next time you go shopping, buy garbage bags and at check demand that they put your groceries in them, the cost is about the same anyways and when you get home you can use them for trash liners.

If you bring your bag do they still charge you the 5 cents?

Also if you are checking out usually when you pay they are still bagging groceries, do you now have to wait until all of your groceries are bagged before you can settle up with the cashier?


9 posted on 12/31/2009 7:17:15 PM PST by GraceG
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To: CSA Rebel
Well, WishyWashyton wants us to be Europe. I don't know if they still do it, but when I was in Germany in the late 60's the people had to take there own bags or some sort of container to the grocery store, as the stores didn't furnish any kind of bag, paper or plastic. Kroger - my favorite grocery store - is starting to push those mongrammed cloth "totes" to carry your stuff in.

I'll admit, when the plastic bags came out, and the question at the checkout was "paper or plastic", I always chose paper, because that's what I grew up with and I was used to it.

Then slowly and incrementally - as these things happen - plastic has almost entirely replaced paper nowadays. But, I've gotten used to the plastic, and even have come to prefer them.

I can carry up to 5 plastic bags on each arm when I get home, depending on the weight, because they have those nifty little handles. These little bags are pretty strong for their size too. We have one of those plastic bag holders under the sink where we keep all of these bags, they are NEVER taken to the dump unless we use them for auxillary trash bags. They're great for all sorts of things, like dumping the litterbox in, carrying your bait on a fishing trip, turn it inside out and pick up doggie poo, makeshift plastic gloves, etc.

Now, even a casual trip to the grocery usually requires 4 or 5 bags to get your bounty home, and a full blown grocery run can use up to 15 bags or more.

Now, having said that, those cloth, european style "totes" are not much bigger than a plastic bag, so if you go on a full scale supply run, you're going to need 15 or 20 of those bad boys. I've seen them advertised at $10 each, so it will cost you up to $200 to gear up for grocery shopping. The same number of plastic bags under WishyWashyton's rules will be only $2.00....or 100 big runs to the market.

Now, if my Kroger gets to the point where they no longer have plastic, or charge for them, I have already told the manager that I will start shopping elsewhere. It's not the nickle, it's the principle of the thing.

We sailed over here from Europe to get away from Europe...
10 posted on 12/31/2009 7:19:33 PM PST by FrankR (Time waits for no man...or man-child, including kenyans.)
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To: Hoodat
Better to cut down a tree to make a bag than to use a waste byproduct from refining gasoline. Idiots.

I didn't know it was a waste product. Hah, I wonder if the re-usuable ones are surplus by products too?
11 posted on 12/31/2009 7:19:39 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: max americana

>> Will those libs wear those paper bags over their heads? <<

For that purpose plastic bags are far superior!


12 posted on 12/31/2009 7:20:02 PM PST by GraceG
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To: max americana
Will those libs wear those paper bags over their heads?

This one should always wear one.

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13 posted on 12/31/2009 7:24:27 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Graybeard58

The surgery sure did wonders for Helen.


14 posted on 12/31/2009 7:26:06 PM PST by max americana
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To: CSA Rebel
Ahhh. So the Maryland-Virginia Grocery Store Stimulus Bill is now law.

I am not sure about DC but there is no sales tax on unprepared food in Maryland, so come and shop away!

15 posted on 12/31/2009 7:28:46 PM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: CSA Rebel
Am I the only one on earth that uses these shopping bags for trash bags in our small trash cans at the house?

No you sure are not and I also find many uses for these bags around the house and such. I frequent a dog park in my city and people bring in these bags and put them in a container for use in keeping the park clean. The city does not furnish bags but by law we are responsible for cleaning up after our dogs.

We are going through this same garbage (no pun intended) in California (SF Bay area). As I look out at the trash I see on the streets, at least 95% is paper or cans and bottles. The cans and bottles already have a 5 cent deposit on them but people still discard them anyway. Very little of the trash is plastic bags. These politicians are a solution looking for a problem.
16 posted on 12/31/2009 7:41:27 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: truthguy

we use them for many things... my kids use them for doggy poop detail... one as a glove and one to hold the stuff...


17 posted on 12/31/2009 7:44:15 PM PST by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Graybeard58
LL!

Why Helen, You've never looked better.

18 posted on 12/31/2009 7:45:45 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Zer0 to the voter: "Welcome to 'MY' DeathCARE ® Plan"...Sucker! ...now just die. :^)
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To: CSA Rebel

They tried that crap in San Francisco, CA. It didn’t make it down to the South Bay as yet.


19 posted on 12/31/2009 7:47:23 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: FrankR
"I'll admit, when the plastic bags came out, and the question at the checkout was "paper or plastic", I always chose paper, because that's what I grew up with and I was used to it."

Every time I hear that phrase I laugh. My granddaughter had never experienced going grocery shopping by herself until I sent her. She was then faced with the question "paper or plastic" she said she was taken back by the question then asked the clerk do you mean "cash or credit card"? LOL!

20 posted on 12/31/2009 7:50:42 PM PST by Spunky (You are free to make choices, but not free from the consequences)
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To: latina4dubya
Yes, every dog owner I know (and I know a lot) uses these bags extensively. I cannot understand how San Francisco outlawed them. SF is supposed to be so pet friendly and such. People in SF now have to buy these bags. I have friends who live there and they always ask me to bring them bags when I go there. These bags are incredibly useful.
21 posted on 12/31/2009 7:51:10 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: CSA Rebel

Great government thinking. A 5 cent tax on grocery bags. The gov’t knows full well people are going to pay this tax and will take this tax income and spend it on some welfare project. Then, when people do shift and the money dries up? Better make it 10 cents. All wrapped up in a “save the world” bow to make us all feel good about it. There’s NOTHING to do with protecting people with this tax. It’s about one more source of funding to feed an already bloated government. I wonder if a breakdown of the spent money will be made available to the public???


22 posted on 12/31/2009 7:53:09 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: CSA Rebel

China’s Plastic Bag Ban Will Save 37 Million Barrels of Oil

Read more: http://www.thedailygreen.com/environmental-news/latest/china-plastic-bags-47010907#ixzz0bKTkhQKp


23 posted on 12/31/2009 7:53:16 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: CSA Rebel

Has anyone stopped to think how much plastic is in a gallon of milk container?

There’s enough there to make the plastic bags to bring home all of the groceries for on trip to the store.

If they really wanted to cut down on plastic use, they would insist that everyone bring back their milk jugs to be refilled.

Now, about those plastic liners in cereal..................


24 posted on 12/31/2009 7:57:59 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over-production, too much food, one of the annual top 5 worries of the American Farmer)
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To: Mmogamer

I assume they do, because I am asked every time I check out at Publix....”Paper or plastic?”

But the stupid thing is, we used to have only paper and they said it used too many trees, so we went to plastic.
Now they want us to go back to paper?
It makes no sense...but when did liberals EVER make sense anyway?

The worse thing is...they’re the ones making USA policy!


25 posted on 12/31/2009 8:12:46 PM PST by LadyPilgrim ((Lifted up was He to die; It is finished was His cry; Hallelujah what a Savior!!!!!! ))
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To: CSA Rebel

No, you are not the only one. I use most of mine for clumping cat litter.

What do ‘tards do with their clumping cat litter?


26 posted on 12/31/2009 8:14:51 PM PST by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: CSA Rebel
Sounds like one of those hopey/changey things.

Hey America! How's that hope and change thing working out for ya?

27 posted on 12/31/2009 8:21:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember in November! Throw all of the bums out!)
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To: GraceG
If they ever imposed that stupid tax here, I'd reuse the exact same bags for shopping. If they get ripped as some do, I'd just duct tape them.

This entire law is about money, not about saving the planet.

We now pay a deposit fee for water bottles. As I was crushing a milk gallon bottle I was wondering why aren't we being charged a deposit fee for these bottles? or mayonnaise? or peanut butter? or shampoo?

28 posted on 12/31/2009 8:23:36 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: CSA Rebel

I think San Jose, Ca is scheduled to completely outlaw the use of plastic bags next year.


29 posted on 12/31/2009 8:29:23 PM PST by blam
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To: CSA Rebel

I always say ‘paper’ when I get groceries and I tell them it is because I like to keep the loggers working. Don’t think that is working, though, because every mill in my area is now shut down :(


30 posted on 12/31/2009 8:29:45 PM PST by MTMS
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To: hinckley buzzard

Roger, Echo that!!

Someone contaminates their (eco-green reusable) bag at home, in the car, or from their kid’s or pet’s poop (etc.).

Then they bring it into the store and contaminate the whole checkout line.

Next, we have a E. coli (or similar) problem and the inspectors have one heck of a problem back-tracking the source.


31 posted on 12/31/2009 8:39:46 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (If you could read my mind ... just count up the felonies!)
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To: CSA Rebel

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE...
Everyone needs to go to the grocers, fill up their cart with a lot of frozen stuff, go to check out and when they want your bags or to charge 5 cents for theirs, say “NEVERMIND!” and walk out. When the stores get tired of having to restock everything, they will change the law.


32 posted on 12/31/2009 8:56:55 PM PST by anonsquared
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I can recall when plastic was a green-weenies dream. It saved all those trees from the paper mill.


33 posted on 01/01/2010 2:10:04 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Sarajevo

Yeah I see a pattern here. First we cannot use paper and they pushed the heck out of plastic then they wanted us not to use the plastic. Now they want us to use the cheap cloth bags we have to now PURCHASE... next those will create a bacterial problem that contaminates the food we buy and then we will be back to paper or plastic or???? some new cr@p they want us to buy.

Americans have truly become “how can we con the sheeple next?”


34 posted on 01/01/2010 2:16:05 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: antceecee

Maybe Knoxville will start up their fabric facilities again? Good Lord


35 posted on 01/01/2010 2:22:29 AM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: CSA Rebel

Clean up the Anacostia? Sheesh!

When I used to fish the upper Potomac from Ft McNair to the Wilson Bridge, we never, ever ventured in to the Anacostia. There’s everything in there from dead bodies to dead refrigerators. They’ve been trying to clean up that piece of water for as long as I can remember. They refuse to accept the fact that it is the people that inhabit the shores of the Anacostia that are the problem. They use the river as their personal garbage dump and “open-air” trash can. It (the river) is completely surrounded by the Southeast ghettos.


36 posted on 01/01/2010 11:33:40 AM PST by CTOCS (I live in my own little world. But, it's okay. They know me there....)
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To: CTOCS

Dead bodies rot and old refrigerators can be recycled into planters around the house. It is the darn plastic bags that confound us!! :)


37 posted on 01/01/2010 11:37:04 AM PST by CSA Rebel
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To: CSA Rebel

“Am I the only one on earth that uses these shopping bags for trash bags in our small trash cans at the house? We also use them to hold our used diapers. Do they really want me to start buying trash bags for this same purpose?”

No, I thought I was! These envirofreak pansies know nothing about recycling.


38 posted on 01/01/2010 11:41:28 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: CSA Rebel
This is from the article - they're charging for paper, also.

Under the new law, city businesses that sell food or alcohol must charge customers five cents for every disposable paper or plastic carryout bag.

39 posted on 01/01/2010 11:49:37 AM PST by Veggie Todd (Get involved! The world is run by people that show up.)
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To: FrankR

To be honest I hate plastic bags. I have been using those reusable bags now for over 2 years


40 posted on 01/01/2010 1:06:20 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
To be honest I hate plastic bags. I have been using those reusable bags now for over 2 years

I hope that you are not buying any chicken or other raw meat. Not good with the reusable bags.

41 posted on 01/01/2010 1:25:34 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

Don’t tell me you buy your chicken and other raw meat unwrapped?


42 posted on 01/01/2010 3:44:25 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Don’t tell me you buy your chicken and other raw meat unwrapped?

LOL..no, but it has been known to leak occasionally

43 posted on 01/01/2010 5:00:45 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Kaslin
"To be honest I hate plastic bags. I have been using those reusable bags now for over 2 years "

Again...to be honest, that is YOUR choice, not the governments, and that should be what America and freedom are all about.
44 posted on 01/01/2010 6:27:39 PM PST by FrankR (Hey Wishy-Washington....cram it down our throats in '09, we'll shove it up your ass in '10)
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To: FrankR

Exactly


45 posted on 01/02/2010 4:18:24 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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