Skip to comments.Gang Task Force's Building Rigged to Explode in Hemet [LA/San Jacinto CA]
Posted on 12/31/2009 7:40:44 PM PST by Ladycalif
Updated 2:43 PM PST, Thu, Dec 31, 2009
Gang task force members in Hemet are lucky to alive Thursday after they noticed their office was flooded with natural gas in an apparently deliberate attempt to cause a deadly explosion, police said.
"It was basically designed so that once somebody came in and moved around a little bit, it would have gone off," said Hemet police Lt. Duane Wisehart. "At the very least, it would have leveled the building and killed whoever was inside."
Wisehart told the Southwest Riverside News Network that there is no doubt the trap was meant for members of the Hemet/San Jacinto Valley Gang Task Force.
Officers arriving for work were saved by their instincts."They were able to recognize right away that something was wrong," Wisehart told the North County Times.
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I thought this was Hemet in Afghanistan.... :-(
as a rule, when you post stuff like this it is really, really good to put the location in the headline as in (CA) or somesuch. because most everyone has never heard of this place.
Must be those “disgruntled Vets” they warned us about. (sarc)
Some heads-up thinking saved some lives here.
As Squantos says: Stay Safe!
At first glance I thought their helmet’s blew up. What?
California becomes Venezuela?
Explode in Helmet?
So who’s helmet exploded?
Whichever one is North, and which is South, varies.
Hemet is just north of Sholdas
So whos helmet exploded?
lol That was my first read as well - those dang exploding helmets when are the gubberment gunna do sufin bout dem.
I don't get it, you walk in and smell gas, you turn off the gas, what does it mean "It was basically designed so that once somebody came in and moved around a little bit, it would have gone off,"?
Once I went with a friend to evict a tenant, no one answered the door but I thought that I smelled gas, so I told my friend, "let's go back downstairs and turn it off at the meter, fetch a ladder and go through a window (in case the door was rigged)", it just wasn't a big deal.
I think this will qualify for the stupidest act of 2009. Just in time, too.
Good grief. What drivel. They were "saved" by their noses when they went in and smelled the damn gas. The End.
Just what I was thinking-another gift from Mexico in that they have no compuntion about killing cops.
Gas can concentrate in lower areas like basements, air ducts, etc, and blow a structure sky high with nary a sniff of foul odor noticed.
The story doesn’t really describe what was “rigged.” Was is just a gas leak?
But where is the drama, the first cop smells gas, tells all the union employees to not go in, he turns off the meter as everyone in earthquake country knows how to do (the wrench is usually chained to the meter) and they wait for the plumber to show up.
Pulled into Hemet at 3AM after a 10hr drive
from NorCal. Got a room and was up and on my way
to pick up a kid to take back to a NorCal group
home by 9:30AM. This was a couple of summers
What I can’t understand is within the vast
area of what the SoCalers refer to as the
Inland Empire with countless communities
and millions of people why would anybody
be interested in wiping out a gang task
force in a podunk town like Hemet? What
about Riverside, San Bernardino, Redlands?
If Hemet is ground zero I hope I don’t
ever have to go back.........
You are wrong by the way, this is natural gas, not propane, natural gas wants to get away, not puddle, and it stinks to high heaven.
Gas pip fitters don’t like being called plumbers. REALLY don’t like it. Fighting words.
Natural gas is mostly methane, lighter than air, and it is somewhat difficult to blow up a building with it. Propane on the other hand is heavier than air, fills basements and crawl spaces, and then blows the building to flinders. I’ve been looking for a chance to use flinders in a sentence.
The helmet itself didn't explode, the building inside the helmet exploded. It was rigged that way.
Can't you read?
Gang Task Force headquarters?
Sounds like it could have been a script for “The Shield”.
Let’s just say I wouldn’t want to have been within two blocks. The drama is anything including a cell phone or static electric discharge in the area could mean BOOM. You also have floor drains etc to consider which in some areas run outside or underneath buildings into the city storm drain system. As I said gas naturally lays low. Something as simple as weather conditions can mean more so.
Now it is a hellhole
I used to fly out to Hemet years ago when I was taking flying lessons out of Long Beach. Not much out there.
No, natural gas does not lay low, it is lighter than air and tries to escape, it wants out, it does not puddle and settle into floor drains and basements and under buildings, even under a house that has had a long term gas leak (natural gas), it always escapes through the vents and openings, it takes an effort to trap it.
I worked in the building next door to the business of a nutjob who had rigged it to blow up by opening the gas valves or whatever and setting up candles I think it was. Then he went and killed his family and his dog, drove out of town and eventually shot himself when the cops started to catch up with him. The cops said if he had been successful it would have taken out his building plus ours and the one on the other side at least. These were pretty old buildings. They evacuated the whole block if I recall correctly. I couldn’t start my car (parked on the street), they wouldn’t let anybody do anything.
I own a repair plumbing business and run and repair gas lines and appliances, trace leaks, etc., I am the guy that ran all that gas to your boiler and the entire building, and the guy that will handle the repairs over the life of the building.
So was the home that blew up. It was on city NG service. Many things including barometric pressure determine how fast it rises, if it rises, or if it concentrates in lower areas.
A hydrogen bomb without a nuclear explosion.
I don’t get your point, we all know that natural gas can explode if confined and ignited.
But natural gas does not puddle, it wants to dissipate, you keep talking about it as though it is propane, natural gas will seek an escape, propane wants to stay in place if it can.
A couple buildings blow up from natural gas leaks each year in Wisconsin. I’ve seen the aftermath. One destroyed three houses and broke windows half a mile away.
Modern buildings are quite well sealed and keep the gas trapped until it’s set off.
What do you mean?
I live here in Hemet. Here is local paper’s story. Gas line was intentionally tampered with.
Been here 21 years and I love my little city.
I don't know what a gas pipe fitter is, but as a California plumber, I know that a plumber was called to handle the situation and will handle what ever gas repairs have to be done to that building.
One reason I heat with wood. I have yet to hear of a woodpile leaking into a house and exploding.
Molecular weight of methane around 16, air around 29, propane around 44. For the most part true.
I worked as a fireman for the emergency crew of a natural gas company, and for the most part the leaking methane would sit and haunt if there wasn't a wind, or if it was somewhat confined.
Trenches and bell holes took out their share of engineers and welders. A dangerous mix of air and gas stayed in place if it was being replenished by the leak... I saw yard leaks take down houses, but have also watched welders cap leaks in live lines without mishap. I think 6-15% was the threshold. With a blowing leak, the % was higher than the combustion mix.
I got to watch from the side of the trenches with the nozzle of a huge CO2 extinguisher in one hand, and the rescue line strung down in the trench around the welder's waist in the other. The bigger worry was him passing out from lack of O2.
Personally after smelling it I would react prevention and response wise on a worse case scenario basis. It will dissipate normally under ideal conditions. So will Carbon Monoxide too if allowed. Wood smoke also wants to rise and dissipate under Normal Conditions. Watch it as a front moves through though how it hangs close to the ground.
Normal Conditions are usually not what kill you though. It's just like when a low pressure system comes through you have to take extra precautions with using gas powered generators and vehicles etc around structures.
BTW I was also a fire fighter at one point. That training saved my life one night in a way not many would even think about. I had a kerosene heater going in my storage shed. It wasn't insulated and I left the door well cracked. The door likely by wind closed. I had been sitting down and felt a little light headed. I looked over at the wick and it was going dim. I dove for the door at that point. I knew it meant lack of oxygen by how the wick was acting. That was because I used to test for explosives and survival O2 levels with what was called a mining flame saftey lamp. Not something I had expected to happen but it did.
We have a big case going on out here. A 17 yo gang member shot, chopped up and burned in a pit in his backyard, another 17 yo. He is on the run with his girlfriend, whose dad happens to be a Mongrol. Her parents were recently arrested on weapons charges. It’s a real crazy case.
Then a couple of weeks ago, one of our officers got shot at(pierced his driver’s side door) by a gang memeber and they did a big gang sweep that day. I listened to the whole incident on my scanner.
Being the guy that people call when they have gas problems, and dangerous gas situations, I manage to get by. If you call the gas company first, then they lock the meter and make you call me before they will return your service.
I can see that, a trench can be an issue, as can certain situations under a house and such, I have run into a couple of situations where the conditions were just wrong when I was looking for a leak (while the gas was still on), but I could always stop the gas at it's source for my work.