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Gang Task Force's Building Rigged to Explode in Hemet [LA/San Jacinto CA]
NBC ^ | 12/31/2009

Posted on 12/31/2009 7:40:44 PM PST by Ladycalif

Updated 2:43 PM PST, Thu, Dec 31, 2009

Gang task force members in Hemet are lucky to alive Thursday after they noticed their office was flooded with natural gas in an apparently deliberate attempt to cause a deadly explosion, police said.

"It was basically designed so that once somebody came in and moved around a little bit, it would have gone off," said Hemet police Lt. Duane Wisehart. "At the very least, it would have leveled the building and killed whoever was inside."

Wisehart told the Southwest Riverside News Network that there is no doubt the trap was meant for members of the Hemet/San Jacinto Valley Gang Task Force.

Officers arriving for work were saved by their instincts."They were able to recognize right away that something was wrong," Wisehart told the North County Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbclosangeles.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; gang; gangs; helmet; helmetexploded; hemet; ied; immigrantlist; improvised; naturalgas; riverside; tm; wod; wot
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To: Ladycalif

21 posted on 12/31/2009 8:34:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ladycalif

The story doesn’t really describe what was “rigged.” Was is just a gas leak?


22 posted on 12/31/2009 8:35:26 PM PST by TankerKC (If gravity is a law, why won't my corn nuts ever fall out of the vending machine?)
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To: cva66snipe

But where is the drama, the first cop smells gas, tells all the union employees to not go in, he turns off the meter as everyone in earthquake country knows how to do (the wrench is usually chained to the meter) and they wait for the plumber to show up.


23 posted on 12/31/2009 8:36:47 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: Ladycalif

Pulled into Hemet at 3AM after a 10hr drive
from NorCal. Got a room and was up and on my way
to pick up a kid to take back to a NorCal group
home by 9:30AM. This was a couple of summers
ago.

What I can’t understand is within the vast
area of what the SoCalers refer to as the
Inland Empire with countless communities
and millions of people why would anybody
be interested in wiping out a gang task
force in a podunk town like Hemet? What
about Riverside, San Bernardino, Redlands?

If Hemet is ground zero I hope I don’t
ever have to go back.........


24 posted on 12/31/2009 8:37:33 PM PST by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: cva66snipe
Gas can concentrate in lower areas like basements, air ducts, etc, and blow a structure sky high with nary a sniff of foul odor noticed.

You are wrong by the way, this is natural gas, not propane, natural gas wants to get away, not puddle, and it stinks to high heaven.

25 posted on 12/31/2009 8:39:01 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: ansel12

Gas pip fitters don’t like being called plumbers. REALLY don’t like it. Fighting words.


26 posted on 12/31/2009 8:41:29 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over-production, too much food, one of the annual top 5 worries of the American Farmer)
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To: cva66snipe

Natural gas is mostly methane, lighter than air, and it is somewhat difficult to blow up a building with it. Propane on the other hand is heavier than air, fills basements and crawl spaces, and then blows the building to flinders. I’ve been looking for a chance to use flinders in a sentence.


27 posted on 12/31/2009 8:42:23 PM PST by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: Lazamataz
So who’s helmet exploded?

The helmet itself didn't explode, the building inside the helmet exploded. It was rigged that way.

Can't you read?

28 posted on 12/31/2009 8:42:39 PM PST by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: Ladycalif

Gang Task Force headquarters?

Sounds like it could have been a script for “The Shield”.


29 posted on 12/31/2009 8:43:39 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: ansel12

Let’s just say I wouldn’t want to have been within two blocks. The drama is anything including a cell phone or static electric discharge in the area could mean BOOM. You also have floor drains etc to consider which in some areas run outside or underneath buildings into the city storm drain system. As I said gas naturally lays low. Something as simple as weather conditions can mean more so.


30 posted on 12/31/2009 8:45:26 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: dep
Hemet is a relatively new city in California that grew up fast as a retiremnet community. No economic base whatsoever and too remote to commute to a job. At one time it was very well off, mostly old folks. Then as the old folks died off there was a housing surplus. The County found out and filled up this housing with section8 welfare recipients.

Now it is a hellhole

31 posted on 12/31/2009 8:45:45 PM PST by KTM rider ( ..........tell me this really isn't happening ! !)
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To: Ladycalif

I used to fly out to Hemet years ago when I was taking flying lessons out of Long Beach. Not much out there.


32 posted on 12/31/2009 8:47:34 PM PST by beelzepug (This administration is a tagline-rich environment.)
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To: cva66snipe
As I said gas naturally lays low.

No, natural gas does not lay low, it is lighter than air and tries to escape, it wants out, it does not puddle and settle into floor drains and basements and under buildings, even under a house that has had a long term gas leak (natural gas), it always escapes through the vents and openings, it takes an effort to trap it.

33 posted on 12/31/2009 8:52:35 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: ansel12
I can see the potentials and understand the risk others may not because I'm a retired commercial building maintenance mechanic and gas fired boiler operator.
34 posted on 12/31/2009 8:54:16 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Ladycalif

I worked in the building next door to the business of a nutjob who had rigged it to blow up by opening the gas valves or whatever and setting up candles I think it was. Then he went and killed his family and his dog, drove out of town and eventually shot himself when the cops started to catch up with him. The cops said if he had been successful it would have taken out his building plus ours and the one on the other side at least. These were pretty old buildings. They evacuated the whole block if I recall correctly. I couldn’t start my car (parked on the street), they wouldn’t let anybody do anything.


35 posted on 12/31/2009 8:58:15 PM PST by visualops (Pray for the USA)
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To: cva66snipe

I own a repair plumbing business and run and repair gas lines and appliances, trace leaks, etc., I am the guy that ran all that gas to your boiler and the entire building, and the guy that will handle the repairs over the life of the building.


36 posted on 12/31/2009 9:00:31 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: ansel12
You are wrong by the way, this is natural gas, not propane, natural gas wants to get away, not puddle, and it stinks to high heaven.

So was the home that blew up. It was on city NG service. Many things including barometric pressure determine how fast it rises, if it rises, or if it concentrates in lower areas.

37 posted on 12/31/2009 9:01:21 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: glock rocks
There was a book by PT Deuterman, Hunting Season, that involved something similar. A guy whose son was killed at Waco decided to take out the ATF headquarters. He pumped the building full of hydrogen gas. The hero managed to get the building evacuated, but it still exploded.

A hydrogen bomb without a nuclear explosion.

38 posted on 12/31/2009 9:03:44 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson (Put your trust in God; but mind to keep your powder dry. - Oliver Cromwell)
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To: cva66snipe

I don’t get your point, we all know that natural gas can explode if confined and ignited.

But natural gas does not puddle, it wants to dissipate, you keep talking about it as though it is propane, natural gas will seek an escape, propane wants to stay in place if it can.


39 posted on 12/31/2009 9:07:56 PM PST by ansel12 (anti SoCon. Earl Warren's court 1953-1969, libertarian hero, anti social conservative loser.)
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To: tickmeister

A couple buildings blow up from natural gas leaks each year in Wisconsin. I’ve seen the aftermath. One destroyed three houses and broke windows half a mile away.

Modern buildings are quite well sealed and keep the gas trapped until it’s set off.


40 posted on 12/31/2009 9:24:41 PM PST by MediaMole
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