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AP Interview: Shah's son wants UN probe in Iran
Yahoo/AP ^

Posted on 01/01/2010 5:53:41 AM PST by nuconvert

PARIS – The son of the deposed shah of Iran urged nations worldwide on Thursday to withdraw their ambassadors from Tehran to protest a relentless government crackdown on opposition demonstrators that resulted in at least eight deaths this week alone.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iran; pahlavi; probe; rp; studentmovement; un

1 posted on 01/01/2010 5:53:45 AM PST by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert
The son of the Shah is only fooling himself if he thinks the UN will do anything of substance.

My guess is they will just blame Israel.

2 posted on 01/01/2010 6:02:56 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: pnh102
My guess is they will just blame Israel.

It's what they do best.

3 posted on 01/01/2010 6:08:26 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: nuconvert
Jimmah ‘Malaise Forever’ Carter....deposed the legal head of Iran...in a frenzy of anti Americanism which also lost us the Panama Canal and caused our Iranian delegation to spend 444 days in stir. Not to mention stagflation and lines at the gas pumps...

time to restore the Pahlavi Dynasty to Iran.....

4 posted on 01/01/2010 6:22:57 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: pnh102

he’s been sitting on his assk for 25-30 odd years and he has to go the UN??
has Pahlavi learned anything?


5 posted on 01/01/2010 6:36:43 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

The Shah’s son has a stake in this rebellion since he presumably wants to take over the country...restore control to himself and his family. His father was a ruthless dictator, and if he did come to power, the country would be just as bad off, if not worse, than before.

However, I wish him luck with the United Nations. I’m sure they will send the current regime a strongly worded letter on his behalf.


6 posted on 01/01/2010 7:10:55 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

Have you read his Mission Statement on his website?


7 posted on 01/01/2010 7:18:41 AM PST by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Free Nobel Peace Prize with oil change =^..^=)
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To: fatnotlazy
The Shah’s son has a stake in this rebellion since he presumably wants to take over the country...restore control to himself and his family. His father was a ruthless dictator, and if he did come to power, the country would be just as bad off, if not worse, than before.

What parallel universe did YOU come from?

The Shah WAS an authoritarian ruler, that is true however under the Shah, Iran was a force for stability in the Middle East, had no hostile intentions against Israel (in fact, Iran was Israel's best trading partner when it came to oil and other commodities), and Iran was a trusted ally and friend, not to mention that Iran was a secular (if Islamic) society in which women were considered equal to men, and not chattel or property to be hidden behind veils and burqas.

To suggest that the rule of the Shah was worse than the mullahs and their thugs clearly demonstrates that you are NOT in touch with reality. The Assahollah and his successors make the Shah look like the greatest humanitarian the world has ever seen.

Give your head a shake fer gawdsakes.
8 posted on 01/01/2010 8:13:58 AM PST by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: mkjessup

I don’t support dictators in any form.


9 posted on 01/01/2010 9:13:59 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: mkjessup

Thank you for your post.
Fortunately, the ignorant and ill-informed on this subject are fewer than several yrs ago.


10 posted on 01/01/2010 9:22:55 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: fatnotlazy; All
I don’t support dictators in any form.

If you can't see the difference between Iranian society as it existed prior to the stabbing in the back of the Shah by Jimmy Carter, and the degradation and de-evolution of that society back to the 9th century by the Assahollah and his thugs, you should think about sticking with coloring books and learning not to let the cat cover you up in the sandbox.
11 posted on 01/01/2010 9:35:24 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now eh? But nooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was 'godly man', that doofus)
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To: mkjessup

You and I disagree...that’s fine, but you don’t have to be nasty about it.

Chill, man!


12 posted on 01/01/2010 9:37:32 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: nuconvert
Thank you for your post.

You're welcome. I knew more than a few Iranian military officers who were trained here in the United States during the Shah's rule, and to the best of my knowledge they all ended up being murdered when Khomeini solidified his grip on power. I've been waiting 30 years to see some payback.

Fortunately, the ignorant and ill-informed on this subject are fewer than several yrs ago.

That's probably Darwin at work, and he's still on the job.

Happy New Year to you FRiend.
13 posted on 01/01/2010 9:38:16 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now eh? But nooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was 'godly man', that doofus)
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To: fatnotlazy
Chill, man!

Tell those Iranians dying in the streets to chill. There isn't a one of them who wouldn't trade the last 30 years for a return to power of the Shah's family.

It's easy to pronounce that you don't support any dictators but put yourself in the shoes of those Iranians who have been oppressed by the mullahs for over 3 decades, as compared to the relatively free society they lived in during the Shah's rule.

That's right, I said "relatively free society". And it was.
14 posted on 01/01/2010 9:41:00 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now eh? But nooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was 'godly man', that doofus)
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To: mkjessup

The Shah was hard on communists and Islamic radicals, both of whom where trying to undermine his government (and ultimately succeeded). For everyone else, life was good. Under the Shah, Iran had an open, westernized culture.


15 posted on 01/01/2010 9:49:19 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: mkjessup

Relatively free? Maybe marginally, but not truly free.

If you’re going to replace the mullahs, don’t replace them with another dictator. That is NOT an improvement. Put in power a free and democratic republic, something like what the US used to be.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 9:49:41 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

The Shah’s son has stated that he is seeking not the establishment of another ruling monarchy, but to serve as essentially a figurehead, no different than Queen Elizabeth II of England, and he supports democracy for Iran.

After seeing how everything ended for his father, that is the wisest decision he could make.

As for Iranian society not being ‘truly free’, riddle me this Batman: was Iranian society more free or less free before the Ayatollah Khomeini came prancing back to Iran?


17 posted on 01/01/2010 9:53:04 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now eh? But nooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was 'godly man', that doofus)
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To: Yardstick
The Shah was hard on communists and Islamic radicals, both of whom where trying to undermine his government (and ultimately succeeded). For everyone else, life was good. Under the Shah, Iran had an open, westernized culture.

**** BUMP ****

Ditto and well said!
18 posted on 01/01/2010 9:54:00 AM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now eh? But nooo Jimmah said the Ayatollah was 'godly man', that doofus)
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To: mkjessup; Yardstick

Happy New Year to you!


19 posted on 01/01/2010 10:12:05 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: mkjessup
Hey, I'm just backing you up. Dittos to what you said.
20 posted on 01/01/2010 10:23:07 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: mkjessup
Forgive me, but I don't trust anything Pahlavi says. He may well be saying anything to return to power.

As for life being better under the Shah than under the mullahs — A couple of years ago I met a woman who lived through both regimes. Someone in our group asked her if she would have liked to see the mullahs deposed and the Shah's son in power. She said no, not really. While of course, the Shah[s regime was more secular, he was still a dictator. And yes, he did persecute and kill anyone he perceived as an enemy — not just the radicals.

And by the way, there are “experts” out there who say that even with a regime change, Iran will still pursue the development of nuclear weapons. I don't see the advantage of trading one authoritarian government for another.

21 posted on 01/01/2010 10:26:34 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

Tell us what you would recommend.


22 posted on 01/01/2010 10:36:16 AM PST by mkjessup (George W Bush, RINO yesterday, RINO today, RINO forever !!! And FR's Founder said so!)
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To: mkjessup

As I said, ideally, I’d like to see a free, representative and democratic government in place, not like Afghanistan which has a corrupt government, but one that is truly and freely elected. What I don’t want is for the US to try to replace the mullahs with Pahlavi. Assist the rebels, sure, but don’t try to force another dictator onto the people of Iran.

Ultimtely, the Iranians have to decide what they want. It was largely our involvement with and support of the Shah that helped to bring the mullahs into power.

I gotta go. See you later. Thank you for the spirited debate.


23 posted on 01/01/2010 10:42:34 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

Same here, back later. Enjoy your weekend and Happy New Year.


24 posted on 01/01/2010 10:45:12 AM PST by mkjessup (George W Bush, RINO yesterday, RINO today, RINO forever !!! And FR's Founder said so!)
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To: fatnotlazy

“I don’t support dictators in any form.”

This man is NOT the Shah.

This man has advocated secular democracy for Iran, for 30 years.

Many good Iranians live in exile, and support secular democracy as well. He is one.

I don’t think he has EVER said he should be placed on a throne.


25 posted on 01/01/2010 10:55:09 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker

He doesn’t need a throne...his father established the Pahvlavi Foundation in Switzerland which probably is one of the world’s richest private foundations. In order to do business in Iran under the Shah you had to contribute 15% of your revenue to the foundation.


26 posted on 01/01/2010 12:17:16 PM PST by Stayfree (Patriotic Americans United.com operates Reward For Obama's Birth Certificate.com!!)
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