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A Mayo Clinic Outpost Won’t Take Medicare
WSJ ^ | 12/31/2009 | Jacob Goldstein

Posted on 01/01/2010 6:19:22 AM PST by markomalley

About 3,000 Medicare patients who’ve been getting care at a Mayo Clinic facility in Arizona will have to pay out of their own pocket or find another doctor.

Starting in 2010 (i.e., next week), the five primary care docs at a Mayo outpost in Glendale, Ariz. will stop accepting Medicare. Patients in the program who choose to stick around will be on the hook for about $1,500 per year, Mayo spokesman Michael Yardley told the Health Blog. The clinic expects that most of the patients will find another place to get their primary care.

“We know it’s been incredibly difficult for our patients,” Yardley said.

Medicare typically pays doctors lower rates than private insurance companies. That makes some docs reluctant to accept Medicare patients, and can sometimes make it hard for Medicare patients to find primary care. Medicare covers about half the cost of a primary care visit at Mayo, while private insurance typically covers the whole cost, according to Yardley.

The new Medicare policy applies only to the Glendale facility, but it eventually could be expanded to other sites where Mayo provides primary care. Hospitalization and specialty care won’t be affected.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: healthcare; mayoclinic; medicare; obamacare; socializedmedicine
Hopefully Congress is listening.

No, I'm not holding my breath.

(BTW, I saw the topic on Drudge, but the article linked was a Bloomberg article, not postable to FR)

1 posted on 01/01/2010 6:19:23 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

The future of obamdontcare.


2 posted on 01/01/2010 6:24:01 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: markomalley

This is nothing new. Many private health care providers reject new Medicare patients for the same reason. Of course Congress will use this as justification to nationalize health care.


3 posted on 01/01/2010 6:24:15 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: markomalley
B.O.H.I.C.A.!
4 posted on 01/01/2010 6:26:52 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: markomalley

I sent my 2 Senators and Congressman a link to the article by e-mail. Here is the link for anyone who wants to do the same:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aHoYSI84VdL0


5 posted on 01/01/2010 6:32:14 AM PST by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: freeangel

got that right.


6 posted on 01/01/2010 6:49:34 AM PST by tennmountainman
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To: pnh102

Actually you can still see a primary doc that doesn’t take Medicare. You pay for your visits out of pocket and then the doc bills Medicare for you. Medicare then sends you a check for the amout they will pay for the visit.
My doc stopped taking Medicare years ago and that is how she explained it to me.


7 posted on 01/01/2010 6:58:32 AM PST by sheana
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To: markomalley

One of the older ladies at my church can’t find a doctor in the Memphis, TN area that will take her Medicare. This is not an isolated incident, it is happening widely, it is just not being REPORTED by the obaminite worshipers...pressitutes.


8 posted on 01/01/2010 6:59:07 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts and taxes on the most vulnerable the disabled, seniors and Veterans)
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To: markomalley
do they still take welfare??? cause welfare pays even less than medicare...
9 posted on 01/01/2010 7:01:26 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: GailA
One of the older ladies at my church can’t find a doctor in the Memphis, TN area that will take her Medicare. This is not an isolated incident, it is happening widely

She will have to seek out a primary care physician who works for a "nonprofit" hospital or facility. Many docs in private practice are taking this route, and I can't blame them.

10 posted on 01/01/2010 7:01:57 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare...a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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To: markomalley

Yep and they want to cut it even more. They won’t go after those who are scamming the system (might be discriminatory don’t ya know). Instead, they will make it so nobody can get covered even though we’ve been paying the system for 40 plus years.


11 posted on 01/01/2010 7:03:42 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: markomalley

Make all medical payments CASH - and prices will drop quickly and access will increase.


12 posted on 01/01/2010 7:11:49 AM PST by PGR88
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Medicare typically pays doctors lower rates than private insurance companies. That makes some docs reluctant to accept Medicare patients, and can sometimes make it hard for Medicare patients to find primary care. Medicare covers about half the cost of a primary care visit at Mayo, while private insurance typically covers the whole cost, according to Yardley. The new Medicare policy applies only to the Glendale facility...
Thanks markomalley.
13 posted on 01/01/2010 7:14:12 AM PST by SunkenCiv (My Sunday Feeling is that Nothing is easy. Goes for the rest of the week too.)
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To: freeangel

...and it starts......


14 posted on 01/01/2010 7:35:54 AM PST by brwnsuga (Not a Slave!)
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To: pnh102
Of course Congress will use this as justification to nationalize health care.

Exactly. Mayo is handing the gubbermint the rope with which they will eventually hang.

15 posted on 01/01/2010 7:41:53 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: freeangel

We went to the Mayo Clinic in Glendale about five months ago. They didn’t take Medicare then. I don’t know what’s different. But we paid out of pocket, then Medicare and my hubby’s supplement paid about 95% of it. It was pretty painless.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 7:43:16 AM PST by Hildy (This Christmas, the Democrats have given America the one gift that keeps on taking.)
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To: markomalley
Hopefully Congress is listening.

All Congress needs to do is take over the management at Mayo and order the employees to keep taking the patients. These people need to be told it isn't their job(s) to whine or complain or even make a buck.

Their job is to care for people at prices the Health Czar says is right. Then their job is to like it.

If any docs try to leave, put 'em in the slammer.

What could be easier?

17 posted on 01/01/2010 7:49:17 AM PST by stevem
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To: stevem

We spent a couple of hours last night with some doc friends (married couple). Granholm and the dems in Michigan suggested taxing doctors on their gross revenue of about 4%. My friend informed me that dozens of private practice docs immediately applied for medical licenses out of state. My friend also informed me that as a sole doc in his office, he has 2 PA’s, 4 nurses, 2 people involved in billing and coding (paper pushers for medicare). His personal salary is about 9% of his gross receipts and the dems want to take half of it. Sad.
Both used to be pro dems and probably voted obama. THe wife said she couldn’t support McCain because of Palin who didn’t have much between the ears. After a few minutes of my explaining leadership principles, I believe she see Palin in a totally different light. Basically, Palin has CORE principles and makes decisions based on those.
We also discussed the AMA which both do not like. Statement: ALl you get from the AMA is a bunch of junk mail trying to sell you insurance or a great car deal and a poorly written magazine with a bad picture on the front every month.

There is hope. My post was to point out the taxing of Doctors and their initial reaction to leave the State.


18 posted on 01/01/2010 8:14:00 AM PST by midcop402
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To: stevem
If any docs try to leave, put 'em in the slammer.

You laugh, but back when I was in college (in the 70s), I ran into a guy who absolutely touted the system they had in place at the time in Albania. He said that the government tested the kids coming out of high school and determined which should be doctors, which should be engineers, and so on (the ones unqualified to do anything else would work on the collective farms).

I remember asking what would happen if a kid didn't want to be what the government chose for him...the response: "they shoot him."

Deadpan...no wink, no nod, no embarrassment, just matter of a fact.

19 posted on 01/01/2010 8:42:43 AM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: midcop402

It’s sad, isn’t it? I work for a non-profit medical company and everyone around me voted for Obama. They were so thrilled at his “historic election.” Now they aren’t saying anything at all, so I don’t know what they’re thinking. You would think people in the medical profession who are supposed to be so smart would actually be... smarter.


20 posted on 01/01/2010 9:53:53 AM PST by ponygirl ("Actum est de republica." -"It is all over with the republic.")
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To: sheana

My parents (in their 70’s) used to go to a different Mayo Clinic here in Phoenix and they were told way back in the spring that Medicare would no longer be accepted, so I’m not sure if this is old news that is just getting picked up or just a different facility. They have gone with a doc who charges an annual fee for all sorts of high-end care. My dad has even called her at home - she’s available to them at all times. Her goal was to take fewer patients who could pay her rates while drastically improving the quality of the care she gives. They seem really thrilled with her, and I like her because she has recommended they cut back some of their prescriptions that seemed unnecessary to me.


21 posted on 01/01/2010 10:02:06 AM PST by ponygirl ("Actum est de republica." -"It is all over with the republic.")
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To: markomalley
"Hopefully Congress is listening".

Hopefully America's senior citizens are listening. Upon hearing this, 90% of them would be in the "firmly opposed to Obamacare" camp.

Another $500bil in cuts to Medicare would put clear, undeniable rationing on the nightly news for all of America to see.

22 posted on 01/01/2010 11:16:06 AM PST by Mariner
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To: stevem
If any docs try to leave, put 'em in the slammer.

A number of years ago, Massachusetts' response to physicians who refused to participate in Medicare was to deny licenses to them. As a result, quite a few doctors left the state. I don't know what the current status of that fiasco is however.

23 posted on 01/01/2010 11:26:59 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: PGR88

That combined with tort reform would probably drop the costs 75% to physicians which in turn would be passed on to the patients.


24 posted on 01/01/2010 11:32:32 AM PST by BuckyKat
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To: midcop402

They tried this in Kentucky. They got the forms back in all manner of desecration (snicker). Some were wadded up like spitballs, others had (the horror) checked assorted boxes but had colored outside the lines. Still others were completely illegible. The State weenies who thought up this stupidity were astounded that someone as well educated as a (sneer) physician would mutilate a card that specifically told them not to.

If I remember correctly they repealed it fairly quickly when somebody in the legislature was smart enough to realize if they taxed doctors further for the “privilege” of taking Medicaid patients, the doctors would just drop their Medicaid patients, which they invariably lost money on to start with.


25 posted on 01/01/2010 11:38:52 AM PST by BuckyKat
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To: Hildy

My husband suffered 2 strokes. We ended up with extesive bills even with out medicare. It may be expensive, but worth it. He is now back to work. Took 2 years rehab. Thank God they worked with us on the balance. Will be paying them $500
a month for a very LONG time. Obama can take his healthcare and stick it, I’ll take my bills and WORK!!!


26 posted on 01/01/2010 12:48:24 PM PST by JHENN22499
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The only non-profit hospital in the Memphis are is the Regional Medical Center...The Med which is about to go belly up. Seems they treat to many free loading illegals who treat it as a doctors office. Then there are the Medicaid folks from Mississippi and Arkansas whose states are REAL SLOW about reimbursing The Med for their treatment. Meanwhile we Tennesseans are being asked for more tax dollars to support The Med. A trip to the ER could take 8 or more hours.

Now The Med's Trauma Center is one of the best for a 100 miles or more, Elvis started it and it is named after him. The neo-natal unit is top draw too.

But it is not a teaching hospital, all the docs are in private practice.

27 posted on 01/02/2010 8:28:11 AM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts and taxes on the most vulnerable the disabled, seniors and Veterans)
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