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IRAN: Chinese-made armored anti-riot trucks, equipped with plows, may arrive in Tehran
LA Times via Babylon and Beyond ^ | Friday, January 01, 2010 | ?

Posted on 01/01/2010 8:17:06 AM PST by DGHoodini

Edited on 01/01/2010 8:20:05 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

An opposition news website is reporting that Iran has imported high-tech armored anti-riot vehicles equipped with water cannons that can douse people with boiling water or teargas.

The U.S.-based Persian-language news website Rahesabz, or Green Path, posted a photograph of what it described as a photograph of two of the trucks arriving at the Iranian port city of Bandar Abbas in the south.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chinese; iran; trucks
Please look at full article, and study picture of these anti-riot trucks. Am looking for suggestions of ways to immobilize/kill these vehicles that can be done by civilians with every day items. (No semtex to blow 3 ft deep trenches in front of them....
1 posted on 01/01/2010 8:17:08 AM PST by DGHoodini
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To: DGHoodini

Reminds me of how they dealt with food riots in “Soylent Green”. The future is here.


2 posted on 01/01/2010 8:19:09 AM PST by Ikemeister
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To: DGHoodini

To me the tires look like the weak link. Best way to immobilize a heavy vehicle carrying 2600 gallon of water would be to flatten the tires. The water alone weighs about 22,000 lbs. A heavy vehicle like this full of 22k lbs of water would have a hard time with a could flat tires.


3 posted on 01/01/2010 8:26:06 AM PST by milwguy
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To: DGHoodini
It's time for Molotov cocktail. Besides, try to seal off exhaust pipe (rag will do.)
4 posted on 01/01/2010 8:26:37 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: DGHoodini
These are not heavily armored and side windows broken it appears from photos. Attack them from both sides at the same time with projectiles and Molotov firebombs.

Automobiles could be used to block or trap them in narrow streets.

5 posted on 01/01/2010 8:31:37 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: DGHoodini
Just to make it fun, have chamber pots emptied on to the cab.

There is a space between the cab and the “Van Box,&rdquo that is ubguarded or covered by any of the onbaord weapons; stuff it with gas soaked rags and then toss a Molotov cocktail at it.

6 posted on 01/01/2010 8:32:56 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

or a banana? or does that only work in movies?


7 posted on 01/01/2010 8:33:34 AM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: Ikemeister
Time to send in the scoops. Soylent Mulla is people ITS PEOPLE!!!!.
8 posted on 01/01/2010 8:33:41 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’ve heard gas in a bag full of styrafoam lit and it sucks the oxygen out of the tank.
Even the iranian guard gots to breath.
There are ways and this kind of plow action can’t sit well with the masses.


9 posted on 01/01/2010 8:34:12 AM PST by Joe Boucher (This marxist punk has got to go.)
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To: DGHoodini
Use the same iranian IED technology that uses plasma to cut through the cab and kill the occupants... use roadside bombs... turn al qaeda and iranian technology back upon them.

LLS

10 posted on 01/01/2010 8:34:24 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Potato or potatoe as Dan would say.

LLS


11 posted on 01/01/2010 8:35:00 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: DGHoodini
Large smokey fires will lower visibility and create updrafts to disperse tear gas.

They're helpless if they can see. Also, bottles of used motor oil thrown against the windshield and windows will block vision and provide additional fuel for firebombs.

12 posted on 01/01/2010 8:38:44 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: milwguy

I thought about that but wondered if they did not have solid tires.

One thouhgt that occurred to me, was if these trucks had to drive near buildings a few well placed bread box sized boulders being dropped from a few strories up, could wreck the cannons.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 8:39:27 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: DGHoodini
I would think that a IUD remotely detonated would do it. There is a weakness it looks like in the design with the cab being separate, so I don't know if you need a really serious device. There are guys on the forum who could answer that. I don't think the Chinese are expecting people to be trying to destroy them with more then fire bombs and rocks. Iranians are great chess players simply stage the protest to bring out the trucks out to given spots. They can steal the explosives from the government or make their own. Certainly if the people of the region know how to do something it would be make explosive devices. The neighboring Sunni governments are in such fear of the Tehran government they would happily supply them in secret. I apologize if my idea is lame.
14 posted on 01/01/2010 8:40:33 AM PST by dog breath
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To: stefanbatory

I’ve always considered a large potato is a good quick way to block a regular exhaust pipe, but if it got a defuser screen at the ens, one might need enough time to put a plastic bag over it and duct tape it closed.


15 posted on 01/01/2010 8:42:45 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: milwguy; DGHoodini

I agree with you MilwGuy, the tires are the weakest link, a baseball bat with a heavy spike, swung like Babe Ruth into the sidewall should produce instant deflation.

Also, plain glass bottles with gasoline in them will produce all sorts of problems if thrown at the engine cowling/hood and/or windshield.

A sledgehammer in the grille or the side doors/windows will also do some damage.


16 posted on 01/01/2010 8:46:27 AM PST by mkjessup (0bama squats to pee.)
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To: DGHoodini

Fire is always a good deterent. Diesel, gasoline and varents of racing fuel would be good. Alcohol has the adbantage of not being seen burning in the daylight. The good thing, from those wishing to stop them’s viewpoint is that is consumes the oxygen and creates heat in the vehicle.

Which causes the occupants to vacate. It takes a well trained individual to stay in a burning vehicle because one’s ntural instincts is to flee fire. They may want to stay but their brain keeps telling their feet to do your duty and get me out of here.


17 posted on 01/01/2010 8:46:55 AM PST by sport
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To: Errant
The way you kill a tank is a gas bomb into the radiator. Once the radiator starts dumping heat into the engine instead of taking it away from the engine the vehicle get immobile real fast. Also it becomes an oven for the crew who have to bail out.
18 posted on 01/01/2010 8:47:03 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: DGHoodini

If we had a responsible democracy loving president, then the opposition would be importing captured Iranian IEDs from Afghanistan and Iran.


19 posted on 01/01/2010 8:48:33 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (There is no "O" in Transparency.)
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To: GonzoGOP

20 posted on 01/01/2010 8:48:36 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: dog breath
Before someone points out that I am a idiot I just noticed I typed IUD instead of IED. I suppose you could throw contraceptives at them and confuse them.lol
21 posted on 01/01/2010 8:49:09 AM PST by dog breath
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To: DGHoodini
In a street battle, there is another weapon they can use, not necessarily for armored truck only: Rebars.

Cut down a rebar in 6~7 feet in length, it will make a handy spear.

22 posted on 01/01/2010 8:49:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (LUV DIC -- L,U,V-shaped recession, Depression, Inflation, Collapse)
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To: DGHoodini
Mine streets with full open top 55 gal barrels of gasoline with loose lids and a couple of small fires burning near by. Barrels should be position/hidden so that trucks would knock them over or slosh gasoline out and iginite from the small open flames nearby (even candles would work).

Long cables or ropes could also be used to pull the barrels over by two or more people when trucks come near.

23 posted on 01/01/2010 8:53:07 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: GonzoGOP
They shouldn't be that hard to take out.


24 posted on 01/01/2010 8:56:59 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: stefanbatory

or a potato!


25 posted on 01/01/2010 9:00:01 AM PST by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: DGHoodini

Could a PVC potato cannon be used to fire a Molotov cocktail? Sort of like rifle grenade launcher.


26 posted on 01/01/2010 9:07:36 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare...a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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To: DGHoodini

So many experts, so many wrong ideas. The answer is obvious - land sharks equipped with “lasers”. Friggin’ newbs.


27 posted on 01/01/2010 9:10:27 AM PST by tupac
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To: DGHoodini
 Caltrop



28 posted on 01/01/2010 9:11:32 AM PST by greedo
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To: DGHoodini

ahhh...the good ole Wile E Coyote attack...:P


29 posted on 01/01/2010 9:14:34 AM PST by stefanbatory (Weed out the RINOs! Sign the pledge. conservativepledge.org)
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To: DGHoodini
Are the Iranian resistance fighters not collecting weapons and gear from the riot police/soldiers they overpower in the streets?

Are there not former soldiers amongst the resistors who know how to use this gear tactically?

30 posted on 01/01/2010 9:16:26 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DGHoodini

Spike strip to deflate tyres.

Use Afgahan model. Lure vehicles to outbreaks of disorder in narrow street area.
Dump skip/truck in front and behind.
Use crash barriers on dual carriageway to trap vehicle on carriageway. Narrow it to one lane with parked vehicle if necessary.

Crossbow/catapult shot through windscreen.
Paint bombs on windscreen.
Smoke bomb to blind driver gunner.

Spear fishing harpoon through radiator.

Good luck.


31 posted on 01/01/2010 9:23:18 AM PST by plenipotentiary (Obama was a BRITISH SUBJECT at birth, passed to him via Pops, can't be NBC)
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To: DGHoodini

Rebar pikes through the glass and Molotov cocktails from all quarters.


32 posted on 01/01/2010 9:28:05 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (The CRU needs adult supervision.)
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To: DGHoodini

Bring in the Scoops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raGdwq1WTLY

(3:20)


33 posted on 01/01/2010 9:33:01 AM PST by blackminorca
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To: DGHoodini
Look! More of Obama's Green Shoots!
34 posted on 01/01/2010 9:41:08 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: dog breath

“I would think that a IUD remotely detonated would do it. “

I didn’t know that an Intra Uterine Device would explode!

Glad my wife’s past needing anything like that.

I’d think and IED might work better.


35 posted on 01/01/2010 9:44:43 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: plenipotentiary

The paint-on-windshield is a good idea for blinding the driver(s). It seems to have some kind of shielding, either from aerial attack or otherwise...

I would expect such a vehicle to have an armed escort, along with its own up-close defensive measures, which would discourage up-close application of such items, so it might be necessary to either deal with the escort(s) first, or work to separate the escort(s) from this vehicle first. Paint guns anybody?

Of course sabotage ahead of any confrontation can work wonders (fuel, drivers before they enter the vehicles, etc), especially if there are any lapses in their force protection and/or support infrastructure security measures...


36 posted on 01/01/2010 9:51:02 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: DGHoodini
i saw a video in the last two days that showed a truck with a wide tube grill on the front that was used not only to ram into the crowd, it even ran over at least one of them...
37 posted on 01/01/2010 9:55:39 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: stefanbatory

potato


38 posted on 01/01/2010 10:03:47 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is fading.)
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To: DGHoodini

“...equipped with water cannons that can douse people with boiling water or teargas.”

Boiling water! That’s not just crowd control, that’s evil. Iran and China have the same disregard for human life and human rights. Omama thinks he can have a conversation with bad guys, he is wrong.


39 posted on 01/01/2010 10:26:10 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: DTogo

M<ost of rhe Basij and secret police, so far, have only used hand to hand combat weapons. Such as batons, iron bars, knives, chains and razor knives, and of course twae gas. not many firearms, but used from the middle of a bunch of anti-riot troops of in ambush. So there’s not been a large amount of weapons to seize from troops, even when some of them get overwhelmed...so far.


40 posted on 01/01/2010 10:39:50 AM PST by DGHoodini (Iran Azadi!)
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To: Zeppo
"Paint guns anybody?


41 posted on 01/01/2010 10:48:32 AM PST by Errant (`)
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To: hennie pennie

*bookmark*


42 posted on 01/01/2010 6:51:35 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: DGHoodini

Take two water balloons and some two-part instant foam insulation. You can get it from a hardware store. Fill one balloon with part A of the insulation mix, and the other balloon with part B. When they are both thrown at the target they pop, mix and foam. You throw them at the vehicle’s radiator. It will foam into the radiator and harden.

Another approach is to throw a bag of flour into the air intake. It will clog the air intake and the motor will die right away.

Laser pointers can also wreak havoc with the armed escorts, blinding them either temporarily or permanently depending on the wavelength/color.


43 posted on 01/01/2010 9:00:35 PM PST by helpfulresearcher (Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Naziism, Communism and Terrorism, War has not solved anything)
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To: helpfulresearcher

“It will clog the air intake and the motor will die right away.”

I meant it will clog the air filter.


44 posted on 01/01/2010 9:02:51 PM PST by helpfulresearcher (Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Naziism, Communism and Terrorism, War has not solved anything)
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To: AdmSmith; freedom44; Valin; odds; sionnsar; LibreOuMort; Pan_Yans Wife; Army Air Corps; GOPJ; ...

pong


45 posted on 01/02/2010 6:18:15 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Just create the challenge for the mechanics at a professional racing garage and the possibilities are endless. The expanding foam idea has possibilities but it needs to be mixed more than just a surface meeting to make it expand in bulk. The paint ball one is better because turning on the wipers actually make it worse. Just make sure it is an oil based paint.

Still, the potato in the tail pipe is a classic


46 posted on 01/02/2010 6:38:21 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov.)
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To: DGHoodini

DVD burners have high powered lasers in them. Blue ray ones have blue lasers that are very efficient in damaging vision. Thus there are laser options even if there are no laser pointers.

Another approach is to rig a collimated strobe that would flash in the direction of the military escorts, thus putting spots of temporary blindness in their field of vision. Do that a few times and they would not be able to shoot or drive. An overhead projector could be used in this way.


47 posted on 01/02/2010 7:51:41 AM PST by helpfulresearcher (Except for Ending Slavery, Fascism, Naziism, Communism and Terrorism, War has not solved anything)
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To: DGHoodini
If they use boiling water on the students - the police will switch sides...
48 posted on 01/02/2010 12:27:08 PM PST by GOPJ (Success is cast as evil and punished while failure is blamed on others and rewarded.-Rand)
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