Skip to comments.Pope Benedict XVI: we must all go green to save the planet
Posted on 01/01/2010 1:45:09 PM PST by TitansAFC
He said people needed to change how they live their lives and called for "ecological responsibility" to be taught in schools.....
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
I guess he hit his head when that woman knocked him down.
So what does ecological responsibility mean?
Sorry Pope not buying it, please stick to theology, thanks.
How does “going green” actually “save da planet?” I can’t see how making the commies richer would “save” anything.
Is that really what he said or is it Nick Squire’s spin on it?
,,, he’s tried to rope in all the disenchanted Anglicans; now he’s for the green market segment. The up and coming global church is fast becoming a division of the UN.
You cannot serve two masters, Gaia and God. I don’t recall Jesus saying we need to recycle, or was he just behind the times?
Da pope gotta learn dat “green weenying” is below his holy joe paygrade!
There’s a difference between being responsible stewards of God’s Earth and communism in the guise of environmental wackoism.
The Pope needs to read a book called “Trees”. He will understand why we shouldn’t go green.
Al Gore for Pope!
Global warming is the religion of atheists and secularists and those who refuse to realize that God is in control of the climate and not man.
It seems that the Pope has been seduced by the religion of the left.
1. The Pope only speaks to Catholics.
2. The Pope says "choices"
3. Points 1 & 2 will mean nothing to the usual suspects.
Spin. The Pope actually only said common sense things such as "An objective shared by all, an indispensable condition for peace, is that of overseeing the earth's natural resources with justice and wisdom".
What sane person would disagree with that?
He'll be caught up on the news shortly though ~ if not "here", "there".
This is from Catholic News Service on the Pope’s address:
“Pope offers thanks for 2009, encourages solidarity in 2010
By Cindy Wooden
Catholic News Service
VATICAN CITY (CNS) — As 2009 came to a close and a new year was about to be ushered in, Pope Benedict XVI invited the world’s Christians to look beyond the passage of time toward eternity.
Presiding over an evening prayer service with eucharistic adoration and the singing of a special hymn of thanksgiving to God Dec. 31, the pope said that with the birth of Christ earthly time was “touched by Christ” and took on a “new and surprising meaning: it became the time of salvation and grace.”
The prayer service in St. Peter’s Basilica was the pope’s first public liturgy in the basilica since Christmas Eve when a mentally disturbed woman leapt over a barrier and knocked the pope down as he processed to the altar.
Italian state and military police were out in force New Year’s Eve, keeping everyone out of St. Peter’s Square until they showed their ticket for the liturgy and passed through a metal detector or were cleared by an officer with a metal-detecting wand.
After the prayer service, the pope went by popemobile into St. Peter’s Square where, under an increasingly heavy rain, he visited the Vatican’s Nativity scene. While the Swiss Guard band played Christmas hymns, the pope entered the grotto housing the larger-than-life-sized figures of the Holy Family and knelt in prayer.
In his homily, the pope said people must look back at the past year and forward to the new year recognizing that God has transformed human history into the history of salvation.
“The various events of our lives — important or small, simple or undecipherable, joyful or sad” — should be understood in the context of God’s great love for each person and the invitation he extends to everyone to set out toward “a goal that is beyond time itself: eternity,” the pope said.
“God became human and gives human beings the unheard of possibility of being children of God,” he said. “This fills us with great joy and leads us to raise our praises to God.”
“With our voices, our hearts and our lives, we are called to say our thanks to God for the gift of his son, who is the source and fulfillment of all the other gifts” with which God has blessed humanity, the pope said.
Pope Benedict encouraged Catholics to make a New Year’s resolution to spend more time reading the Bible so that they could become more credible witnesses to God’s loving plan of salvation.
“The word believed, proclaimed and lived gives rise to acts of solidarity and sharing,” he said. While thanking Catholics for their acts of charity in 2009, the pope said he wanted “to encourage everyone to continue their commitment to alleviating the difficulties in which many families still find themselves because of the economic crisis.”
I’d have to read the actual text from his address since the UK papers and the US papers for that matter often “misinterpret” what has actually been said.
Dere be some politiks that do overlap into da church—like free rubbers, abortions, etc.—but he best not be stirring up the out-and-out nwo issues!
The pope should preach Christ crucifixion and resurrection instead of the green hoax.
The minute I heard that he was opposed to the War in Iraq I had him pegged.
This is further proof that he leans pretty far left. Very poor choice to base his New Year's Speech on the environment. Should have spoken about individual freedom instead.
The Pope is often misunderstood by the common newspaper reporter.
Example one is when the Pope called for the consideration of Natural Law. http://www.ignatiusinsight.com/features2007/schall_benxvinatlaw_oct07.asp
Benedict especially lamented the failure to “recognize that the innate dignity of every individual rests on his or her deepest identity — as image of the Creator — and therefore that human rights are universal, based on the natural law.”
Just as you work to protect the natural world from exploitation, Benedict told the young, you also must defend the dignity of the unborn, elderly and poor from those who fail to recognize the human person as the pinnacle of the created world.
Ooops! The next entry was Example 2.
The Pope is very clear, it is the media who distorts.
I'm all for not grossly wasting the resources that we've identified and started exploiting, but when someone starts talking about justice in relation to someone else's resources, it typically means the next idea will be a calling to give said resources to others who had no part of discovering and exploiting said resources.
Perhaps I'm just being picky here.
Not gonna hold my breath, though.
Some recycling is economical and some is not. To endorse "recycling" as a general concept is senseless.
compost heaps, dump the chemicals and bring on a more organic way of raising crops is good as well
Of course, chemicals must be used responsibly, but to disparage their use is to ignore economic reality. Periodic starvation has been the norm since the beginning of humanity, yet modern agricultural techniques have completely eliminated starvation for hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Feel-good wishful thinking has not.
And once that happens, people stop discovering and exploiting resources, retarding human progress.
The Pope is distinguishing the differences between “polution” and “glpbal warming”...Lest everyone jump off to the wrong conclusion there is a link to his 07 new years message message printed in the same paper in this article dubunking CO2 causing global warming in http://www.theusmat.com/
The Bible teachers that God has put humanity in charge of the earth with the role of stewards. That means that it is our job to look after the animals and other creatures that God made.
We have permission, since the Flood, to kill and eat animals. But that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t treat them fairly and treat God’s whole creation as true stewards should.
In other words, I doubt very much whether the Pope gave some sort of politically correct Green speech. I imagine he simply repeated what Christianity—both Catholic and Protestant—has alwauys taught. That God has given us the responsibility of caring for the other creatures of this world.
Being “good stewards” in the biblical sense does not mean embracing econut junk science fraud theories. I fear the pope has fallen for the latter while believing it is the former.
And what is your excuse? You are just accepting that a British tabloid is actually repeating what the pope said without researching his actual words and meaning.
Since when do the liberal media report fairly?
PapaBenXVI, I love you, but stick to your knitting, please.
I do not understand how anyone who believes in God can believe that we, as a mere byproduct of our existence, possess enough power to destroy His carefully crafted handiwork.
“called for “ecological responsibility” to be taught in schools.....”
Marxist drivel if actually spoken by him.
The Pope is a German, who’s lived in Italy (or really the Vatican) for many years. Virtually all Germans I’ve met are extremely pro-green....(cleanliness and a lack of waste, ie. efficiency are very Germanic traits) and environmentally concerned.
I think because Europe is so secular—enviromentalism is the new de-facto religion (it has comparatively little demands) for many, anyway. These attitudes rub off on even very devoutly Christian people who live there.
Notice the Roman Church today is very pacifistic (anti-death penalty and, usually anti-military) today...ALSO a very typical European attitude. No one is immune, to use a German word, from the “Zeitgeist” (spirit of the age) of his culture. On the environment, the pope on this is just typically European.
Maybe it would help if we read what he actually said. It was in the context of a much broader talk.
He keeps calling for economic justice and not abusing the environment, particularly in terms of Africa...and guess what, it’s people like the various socialist thug dictators who are destroying both the economy and the environment of their countries, and the reason their people are starving is because of artificial dictator-provoked famines.
If you want to interpret this in a left wing way, go ahead. But if you simply want to get the message...well, I don’t think he’s talking about decent capitalist democracies. He’s talking about thug dictator cultures, Islamic cultures, and LatAm socialist cultures, all of which are famous for starving the people and destroying the economy and land.
A lot of people would starve if there was no chemical use and a lot more people would be getting food borne disease. Those were real concerns before the advent of commercial fertilizer and fungicides. Some of our most potent chemicals against disease are hydrogen peroxide and chlorine bleach.
The availability and safety of our food supply has helped to boost our life spans by many years.
It is unfortunate that the Pope seems to accept man-made global warming, or climate change, as fact. He does clearly reject the Naturalist Church of Global Warming, however. I searched for the text of the speech so that I don't have to depend on the lamestream media to tell me what the Pope said. I found this passage:
On the other hand, a correct understanding of the relationship between man and the environment will not end by absolutising nature or by considering it more important than the human person. If the Church's Magisterium expresses grave misgivings about notions of the environment inspired by eco-centrism and bio-centrism, it is because such notions eliminate the difference of identity and worth between the human person and other living things. In the name of a supposedly egalitarian vision of the "dignity" of all living creatures, such notions end up abolishing the distinctiveness and superior role of human beings. They also open the way to a new pantheism tinged with neo-paganism, which would see the source of man's salvation in nature alone, understood in purely naturalistic terms.
That part is probably going to be left out of every MSM news report. It doesn't fit their narrow template, and they're simply not interested in reporting on what they see as differences between equally valid religions. Catholics, Protestants, neo-pagans, snake handlers, pantheists, whatever, it's all the same boring stuff as far as they're concerned.
The Pope is right that the environment is being abused in many parts of the world, although he doesn't identify the culprits by name (I would name China and India, for starters). He doesn't call for abandoning SUVs or coal-fired power plants, although his call for "more sober lifestyles" could be taken to mean just that. I don't believe the he is embracing the entire left-wing environmentalist kook agenda, but that's how it'll be played out in the media.
This isn’t exactly what Vatican sources said.
As I said earlier, I remember a conversation that I once had with a guy who worked in Ticonderoga, NY at a factory. The factory was on the the beautiful Niagara River. The guy actually said to me that "he just lets the chemical waste RIP into the Niagara River because it is cheaper to pay the fines than to dispose of the waste." This is a true story.
Coincidentally, when I visited Niagara Falls awhile back, the Mist from the falls burned my eyes. They said it was polluted (at the time, maybe its better now.)
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