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Mayor seeks to block tankers Wants Yemen gas delivery offshore
The Boston Glob ^ | January 1, 2010 | Andrea Estes

Posted on 01/01/2010 5:34:02 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough

Mayor Thomas M. Menino said yesterday he will ask Boston’s lawyers to see whether the city can block Yemeni tankers from delivering liquefied natural gas into Boston Harbor, calling such deliveries “wrong.’’

“We’re in extraordinary times that call for extraordinary measures to ensure the safety of our city,’’ the mayor said in an interview. “They cannot be coming into a harbor like Boston, where there is less than 50 feet between the tankers and residential areas.’
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The Globe reported yesterday that shipments of liquefied natural gas from Yemen are scheduled to arrive for the first time in Boston as early as February. Coast Guard officials are reviewing the plan and said yesterday they have not yet decided whether the shipments will be allowed to enter the harbor and dock at the LNG terminal in Everett.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: boston; coastguard; dhs; energy; fuel; homelandsecurity; lng; ma; menino; nationalsecurity; naturalgas; ports; security; whitehouse; yemen
I first read something about such a LNG offshore offload suggested for Boston because of 9/11. This is a very dangerous situation that should be mitigated asap.
1 posted on 01/01/2010 5:34:03 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

“Past studies have concluded that a liquefied natural gas leak in Boston Harbor could catch fire and even explode, threatening people more than three-quarters of a mile away.”


2 posted on 01/01/2010 5:35:40 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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To: LurkedLongEnough

What this story fails to mention is that the Mayor of Boston *LITERRALY* has an IQ of lest than 75.I kid you not!


3 posted on 01/01/2010 5:37:53 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The solution is simple enough. Have the LNG connect via a buoy located a couple miles out.


4 posted on 01/01/2010 5:39:26 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“We’re in extraordinary times that call for extraordinary measures to ensure the safety of our city,’’ the mayor said in an interview.”

did they have an interpreter on hand? How do they KNOW that is what he said? He might have been ordering a pizza...


5 posted on 01/01/2010 5:39:26 PM PST by jessduntno ("The system is working just as it should..." - Jan "The Man" Napolitano)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
has an IQ of lest than 75 = has an IQ of less than 75.

Geeze,I hope nobody starts to question *my* IQ!

6 posted on 01/01/2010 5:40:28 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

LNG is bad stuff and would be INCREDIBLY attractive to terrorists. Moor that ship out on a buoy, please!


7 posted on 01/01/2010 5:42:29 PM PST by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

That’s what the mayor has suggested.

I think I would be rather nervous about this as well, considering the world we live in.


8 posted on 01/01/2010 5:42:52 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: jessduntno
did they have an interpreter on hand? How do they KNOW that is what he said? He might have been ordering a pizza...

Oh,so you're *familiar* with our anything-but-beloved Mayor.Hizzonor will never be mistaken for an MIT grad,that's for sure.

9 posted on 01/01/2010 5:43:54 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

http://www.mumblesmenino.us/

:-)


10 posted on 01/01/2010 5:44:13 PM PST by DemforBush (Now officially 100% ex-Democrat.)
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To: DemforBush
Yup...seen it.Great stuff.If Mumbles thought he could pull it off he'd make Howie Carr disappear....as in Mafia disappear.
11 posted on 01/01/2010 5:47:26 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Algerian tankers have been landing in Everett Mass and bringing in natural gas for decades. Somehow foreign gas is cheaper than American? Is Yemeni natgas cheaper than Algerian?

I’ll bet they (Massachusetts) are locked in long term because US natgas has plunged in price


12 posted on 01/01/2010 5:49:30 PM PST by dennisw (It all comes 'round again --Fairport)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Don’t agonize over the ship, the real risk is the storage tanks.

On the other hand, all the Sand Savages might do is remove the epicenter of Taxachussetts Liberalism.

I would miss the museums, but that might well be balanced by the removal of all those Big Sh*tty government trough feeders.


13 posted on 01/01/2010 5:51:45 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: dennisw

Algerian tankers have been landing in Everett Mass and bringing in natural gas for decades.


Everett MA recieved its first load of LNG back in 1971.


14 posted on 01/01/2010 6:00:16 PM PST by deport (61 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Nah, just get a sweater and a candle for each Taxachussetts resident, and they can lead the way on conservation, CO2 mitigation, and environmentalism. Send the LNG tankers back, and offending local Muslims by profiling won't be necessary.

Win-win!

15 posted on 01/01/2010 6:05:51 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Exxon Gives Up On LNG Facility

10/29/04
By BEN RAINES
Staff Reporter

ExxonMobil Corp. is abandoning its attempt to build a docking terminal on Mobile Bay for supertankers carrying liquefied natural gas, according to a Thursday statement from the company. The proposed $600 million facility would have unloaded superchilled natural gas, or LNG, from ships arriving from the Middle East.

Officials with the Houston-based company had said the terminal would create 50 permanent jobs and would ensure that natural gas supplies in the area remained competitively priced.

But opponents echoed a number of LNG scientists, who said that a terminal on Mobile Bay could pose significant safety threats, particularly if an LNG tanker was involved in a worst-case accident or a terror attack.

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16 posted on 01/01/2010 6:09:21 PM PST by blam
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To: Navy Patriot
offending local Muslims by profiling won't be necessary

Darn, there must still be some other way to offend them.

17 posted on 01/01/2010 6:13:18 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Deathcare...a solution desperately looking for a problem.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

You have got to be kidding. Floating bombs from Yeman come to mind. Immagine a giant floating propane bottle. I believe this could be as bad as the Texas City disaster if that much LNG was set up to "accidentally" blow... I wouldn't take the chance. Rig up a couple of miles of line and offload it from afar, or not at all. Where is DHS and Neo-polit'ical'an'o on this?

18 posted on 01/01/2010 6:16:45 PM PST by 1ofmanyfree ((No jobs, licenses,mortgages,bank accounts or amnesty for any illegal alien criminals ! ))
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To: Gay State Conservative

Oh,so you’re *familiar* with our anything-but-beloved Mayor.Hizzonor will never be mistaken for an MIT grad,that’s for sure.

Howie Carr calls him “Mumbles”...one of his better nicknames...


19 posted on 01/01/2010 6:18:04 PM PST by jessduntno ("The system is working just as it should..." - Jan "The Man" Napolitano)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

The mayor is clearly a bigot./s


20 posted on 01/01/2010 6:18:39 PM PST by rae4palin (proud bigot)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Darn, there must still be some other way to offend them.

Wink at their goat.

21 posted on 01/01/2010 6:19:42 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

I thought Hugo Chavez was providing energy welfare to Mass now?


22 posted on 01/01/2010 6:20:57 PM PST by TigersEye (Tar & feathers! Pitchforks and torches! ... Get some while supplies last.)
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Sure, the terrorists are bad but our safety is under greater threat from the voters in MA.


23 posted on 01/01/2010 6:21:27 PM PST by rae4palin (proud bigot)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Bull. You could fire RPG’s into those tanks all day long and nothing will happen.

The Department of Energy has never, under any circumstances been able to blow up a tank.

Getting the frozen slush to liquefy, then gas and then combust in anything but a controlled engine is near nigh impossible.


24 posted on 01/01/2010 6:41:37 PM PST by Leisler (We don't need a third party we need a conservative second party.)
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To: 1ofmanyfree

The Amount of Gas Released From Just One LNG Tanker Would Be 20 Times Greater Than The Amount of LNG That Incinerated One Square Mile of Cleveland in 1944


25 posted on 01/01/2010 6:54:37 PM PST by henbane
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To: LurkedLongEnough

Hey Mayor Menino is this the same LNG facility that you refuse to let the Boston Fire Department implement a contingency plan for? Is this the same LNG facility the Boston Fire Department needs to protect with a Fire Boat that is almost 40 years old and is bearly sea worthy? The same Fire Boat that there has been a request for replacement in every fiscal year budget request the last 16 years that you have been mayor? How come Boston is the only city in the top 120 major metropolitan areas that comprise the Urban Area Security Initiative NOT to have a FULL TIME Fire Department HazMat team, that would be needed immediately if something happened at this LNG facility? Well you could care Less about the people in Charlestown because you dont do well in elections there. Plus to hell with the people of Everett and Somerville because they cant vote for you. Oh, I guess with the people who cause Man Made Disasters now coming out of Yemen, it is politically correct to ask for something from your buddies Coupe Deval and the lizard king huh?


26 posted on 01/01/2010 7:18:55 PM PST by pietraynor (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: henbane
"The Amount of Gas Released From Just One LNG Tanker Would Be 20 Times Greater Than The Amount of LNG That Incinerated One Square Mile of Cleveland in 1944"

Just sayin', anything is possible with enough $$$, time, and planning. What better a cover for a big azz bomb; inside liquid Natural Gas tanks, no way to inspect.

27 posted on 01/01/2010 7:43:59 PM PST by 1ofmanyfree ((No jobs, licenses,mortgages,bank accounts or amnesty for any illegal alien criminals ! ))
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To: Mr. Jazzy
LNG is bad stuff

No, it is not.

would be INCREDIBLY attractive to terrorists

Only because of their ignorance (and others) that LNG will not explode.

28 posted on 01/02/2010 6:51:19 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 1ofmanyfree

You don’t understand that LNG is NOTHING like the bomb material carried by that ship.

LNG is not capable of exploding.


29 posted on 01/02/2010 6:55:54 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: LurkedLongEnough
Existing LNG Terminals:

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There are 26 other approved terminals in the US.
http://www.ferc.gov/industries/lng/indus-act/terminals/lng-approved.pdf

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7 other sites have been proposed.

http://www.ferc.gov/industries/lng/indus-act/terminals/lng-proposed.pdf

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12 other sites have been discussed as potential sites for additional LNG facilities.

http://www.ferc.gov/industries/lng/indus-act/terminals/lng-potential.pdf

30 posted on 01/02/2010 7:08:56 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
I'd like to see all imports of natural gas halted!

Drill Baby Drill !!

31 posted on 01/12/2010 9:42:20 AM PST by TexasCajun
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WHDH.com: Boston - "GOV. PATRICK ON YEMEN LNG TANKERS IN BOSTON HARBOR" (SNIPPET: "The Coast Guard's decision to allow LNG tankers from Yemen into Boston Harbor comes despite concerns about the country supporting terrorists. "I've spoken with the senior-most people at homeland security, and they have taken it all the way up the chain to the White House national security advisors. I think that everything that can be done has been done. They have taken a whole host of new and more intrusive security measures, and that is what all of us are looking for," said Gov. Patrick. Yet Boston Mayor Thomas Menino blasted the Coast Guard’s decision.") (February 3, 2010, 2:50 pm)

32 posted on 02/04/2010 4:28:30 AM PST by Cindy
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OFF THREAD TOPIC, but fyi:


INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - For The Record - blog: "AWLAKI: U.S. Civilians Are Legitimate Targets Because Americans Elect 'Criminal' Leaders" by IPT News (February 3, 2010, 7:51 pm)

Link

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CNS NEWS.com: "AMERICAN EX-CONS WHO CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND MOVED TO YEMEN PUT U.S. ON 'HEIGHTENED ALERT,' SAYS SENATE COMMITTEE REPORT" by Fred Lucas (SNIPPET: "U.S. officials say a "significant threat" could come from American citizens, some of them ex-convicts, who traveled to Yemen. The threat has put federal law enforcement on "heightened alert." "Most worrisome is a group of as many as three dozen former criminals who converted to Islam in prison, were released at the end of their sentences, and moved to Yemen, ostensibly to study Arabic," said a Jan. 21, 2010 report by the staff of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.") (February 3, 2010)
Link (pdf)

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NY DAILY NEWS.com: "AL QAEDA POISED TO TRY MAJOR ATTACK IN UNITED STATES WITHIN 3-6 MONTHS, INTELLIGENCE CHIEF WARNS" by John Marzulli and James Gordon Meek (February 3, 2010, 4:00 am)


DNI.gov - Testimony - STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD: "ANNUAL THREAT ASSESSMENT OF THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY FOR THE HOUSE PERMANENT SELECT COMMITTEE ON INTELLIGENCE Dennis C. Blair, Director of National Intelligence" (February 3, 2010) (pdf)

DNI.gov - Testimony: "ANNUAL THREAT ASSESSMENT OF THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence - Dennic C. Blair, Director of National Intelligence (February 2, 2010) (pdf)

33 posted on 02/04/2010 9:36:20 PM PST by Cindy
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