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Calif. Pastor Takes in $2.4M After Donations Plea [That Many Fools in CA?]
NYTimes ^ | January 02nd 2010

Posted on 01/02/2010 8:37:35 PM PST by Steelfish

Calif. Pastor Takes in $2.4M After Donations Plea

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS Published: January 2, 2010

LAKE FOREST, Calif. (AP) -- Evangelical pastor Rick Warren's plea for donations to fill a $900,000 deficit at his Southern California megachurch brought in $2.4 million, Warren announced to cheers during a sermon at the church on Saturday.

Warren said the amount raised after the appeal was posted online Wednesday included only money parishioners brought in person to Saddleback Church by New Year's Eve. More was arriving by hand and by mail, he said.

''This is pretty amazing,'' Warren told his congregation. ''I don't think any church has gotten a cash offering like that off a letter.''

The pastor said he planned to talk further about the response in a Sunday sermon called ''The Miracle.''

''We're starting the new decade with a surplus,'' he said. ''It came from thousands of ordinary people. This was not one big fat cat.''

The posting on Warren's Web site read: ''With 10 percent of our church family out of work due to the recession, our expenses in caring for our community in 2009 rose dramatically while our income stagnated.''

Warren said the church had largely managed to stay within its budget during the year, but ''the bottom dropped out'' when Christmas donations were down.

The letter cited the church's accomplishments in 2009 and detailed how the donations would be used, including the church's food pantry, homeless ministry, counseling and support groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: rickwarren; saddleback
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1 posted on 01/02/2010 8:37:36 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
This was not one big fat cat.

Except for the guy on the receiving end, of course.

2 posted on 01/02/2010 8:40:22 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Conservatives unite behind conservative Republicans in the primaries!)
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To: Steelfish
This guy (Warren) could have buried Obama after the live ‘debate’ with McCain. NO ONE took advantage of Obama’s missteps and HUGE mistakes in answers. This guy has partial responsibility for the wasteland that this President is creating.
3 posted on 01/02/2010 8:41:45 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Steelfish
Evangelical pastor Rick Warren's plea for donations to fill a $900,000 deficit at his Southern California megachurch brought in $2.4 million, Warren announced to cheers during a sermon at the church on Saturday.

Man, I hope there is something wrong with this paragraph...

4 posted on 01/02/2010 8:41:57 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Steelfish

Cue the “Rick Warren is the devil” crowd in 3...2...1...


5 posted on 01/02/2010 8:43:15 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (Socialism is the plundering of the productive by the unaccountable)
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To: Steelfish
And these will be the first to burn in hell. When your religious path requires this amount of earthly quan, then you know “God's work” is not what you are accomplishing. There is no difference between large government budgets and large church budgets. It's all corrupt.
6 posted on 01/02/2010 8:50:51 PM PST by carolinacrazy (Bow to your sensei.... BOW TO YOUR SENSEI...... www.jackassdemocrats.com)
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To: SandyInSeattle

No, just a fraud.


7 posted on 01/02/2010 8:51:00 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

“Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. “ ... P.T. Barnum.


8 posted on 01/02/2010 8:58:22 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: originalbuckeye
This guy (Warren) could have buried Obama after the live ‘debate’ with McCain. NO ONE took advantage of Obama’s missteps and HUGE mistakes in answers. This guy has partial responsibility for the wasteland that this President is creating.

I didn't watch it. I thought he was hosting it and just trying to be fair. Do you think it gave Obama a Christian appearance? That would have been fraudulent.
9 posted on 01/02/2010 9:04:24 PM PST by RushingWater
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Saddleback Church with its 5 campuses in Southern California may have overextended its growth. This $2.4 million installment may be the beginning of more to come. The economy we enjoyed during the Bush years brought into being the mega churches. Whether these churches survive will be one to watch. Such churches need a good economy to operate. Can they downsize and survive is the question to ask.


10 posted on 01/02/2010 9:10:12 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: RushingWater
Obama really embarrassed himself. It could have sunk his Presidential ambitions. Big Media didn't cover it and Warren didn't promote it. This is the ‘live’ appearance where Obama said that deciding when Life begins was ‘above his paygrade’. What a complete phony. It SHOULD have tanked him and exposed him for the poseur that he is.
11 posted on 01/02/2010 9:12:37 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: Steelfish

Rick Warren’s ‘The Purpose-Driven Life’ ... Since 2002 it has sold more than 30 million copies worldwide

Where did that money go?


12 posted on 01/02/2010 9:19:15 PM PST by kcvl
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

I realize that you don’t count Rick Warren among those you admire.

However, it should be pointed out that Saddleback ministers to a large number of people, and many of those are out of work and in need. The church experienced a shortfall in offerings, and this is what prompted the original request by Warren.

He, BTW, takes no money from the church.


13 posted on 01/02/2010 9:19:40 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: Steelfish

I used to attend a mega-church in the 90’s. After awhile the services felt like a big production, TV cameras everywhere and tons of announcements. With that said however credit American christians for being good and generous givers. I prefer to donate charitable giving mostly to missions where it is desperately needed rather than supporting overblown mega buildings and expensive growth projects.


14 posted on 01/02/2010 9:20:50 PM PST by tflabo
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To: Steelfish

Whew... I gotta get into the religion business.


15 posted on 01/02/2010 9:21:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: kcvl
Where did that money go?

Drugs and whores?
That seems to be the pattern with these "religion" tycoons.

16 posted on 01/02/2010 9:23:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: norge

Why doesn’t he donate it from his own pocket? He’s got it.

Another fraud.


17 posted on 01/02/2010 9:26:25 PM PST by Round 9
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To: bwc2221

i dont believe he is a fraud. dont know why all the hate for this man he has done alot of good in this world. brought alot of people to Christ.


18 posted on 01/02/2010 9:28:44 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: kcvl

rick warren donated all that money towards solving aids problem in africa


19 posted on 01/02/2010 9:29:50 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: Round 9; kcvl; Lancey Howard

Rick Warren paid back Saddleback Church every dollar they paid him in salary after his 24th year. He now takes no salary from the church. Saddleback is coming up on its 30th anniversary.

He and his wife determined that their living standards would not change as the result of the book sales.

The Warrens “reverse tithe”. In other words, he lives on 10% of his income and tithes 90.

The 90% of proceeds from the book go to three foundations set up by the Warrens...they get nothing from those foundations.

To date his book has sold 52 million copies.


20 posted on 01/02/2010 9:44:13 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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