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Obama Adviser: No Smoking Gun in Airline Bomb Plot (Just a smoking bomb in seat 19A over Detroit)
AP via Houston Chronicle ^ | Sunday, January 3, 2009 | Anne Gearan

Posted on 01/03/2010 6:23:59 AM PST by kristinn

U.S. intelligence agencies did not miss a "smoking gun" that could have prevented an alleged attempt to blow up a U.S. airliner on Christmas Day, President Barack Obama's top counterterrorism adviser said Sunday.

White House aide John Brennan cited "lapses" and errors in the sharing of intelligence and clues about the Nigerian man accused in the foiled attempt.

"There is no smoking gun," Brennan said. "There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"

Brennan is leading a White House review of the incident. Obama has said there was a systemic failure to prevent the attack, which he said was instigated by an affiliate in Yemen of the al-Qaida terrorist network.

Obama ordered a thorough look at the shortcomings that permitted the plot, which failed not because of U.S. actions but because the would-be attacker was unable to ignite an explosive device. The president has summoned homeland security officials to meet with him in the White House Situation Room on Tuesday.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab apparently assembled an explosive device, including 80 grams of Pentrite, or PETN, in the aircraft toilet of a Detroit-bound Northwest flight, then planned to detonate it with a syringe of chemicals. Passengers intervened, and the plan failed.

The 23-year-old suspect's name was known to intelligence officials, and his father had passed along his concern about the son's increasing radicalization.

"We had bits and pieces of information," Brennan said on CNN's "State of the Union." The father's warning, he said, was "one set of data."

But Brennan said other information available didn't provide the details needed to map it and attach it to Abdulmutallab.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bhochristmas; flight253; johnbrennan; nationalsecurityfail; obama; underwearczar
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They really think we're that dumb.
1 posted on 01/03/2010 6:24:00 AM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn

Was the “No Smoking Bombs” light on?


2 posted on 01/03/2010 6:27:27 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: kristinn


3 posted on 01/03/2010 6:27:45 AM PST by paulycy (AMERICA: Less safe. Less free. More broke.)
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To: kristinn
"There is no smoking gun," Brennan said. "There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"

If there was a smoking gun, even the Obama political hacks would make good Homeland Security appointees. It is there job to put a workable system together, not blame Bush for everything.

4 posted on 01/03/2010 6:30:06 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: kristinn
Brennan, you lie!

Obama reassured the nation that this "suspect" had been charged. Reassurance? The president should be saying: We have captured an enemy combatant -- an illegal combatant under the laws of war: no uniform, direct attack on civilians -- and now to prevent future attacks, he is being interrogated regarding information he may have about al-Qaeda in Yemen. Instead, Abdulmutallab is dispatched to some Detroit-area jail and immediately lawyered up. At which point -- surprise! -- he stops talking.

5 posted on 01/03/2010 6:30:09 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: kristinn

Depends on what the definitions of “smoking gun” and “lapse” are.


6 posted on 01/03/2010 6:31:26 AM PST by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: kristinn
Why shouldn't they? They see who is president. They see who is in Congress. And they know all of them were elected by majority vote.

What would think?

7 posted on 01/03/2010 6:31:28 AM PST by sport
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To: kristinn
"There is no smoking gun," Brennan said. "There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"

Translation: It's not our fault unless they send out a videotaped news release declaring their intentions a month before an attack.

8 posted on 01/03/2010 6:33:04 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: kristinn

Does this guy understand that his job is to find “unknown” terrorists?


9 posted on 01/03/2010 6:33:19 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: kristinn

IMG - this man is a complete tool.

Does he actually think that America has completely forgotten 9/11?


10 posted on 01/03/2010 6:33:39 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: kristinn

Brennan needs firing.


11 posted on 01/03/2010 6:35:00 AM PST by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: kristinn
"There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"

I guess they figured he bought that one-way ticket just to take it home and frame it.

12 posted on 01/03/2010 6:36:09 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: kristinn
They really think we're that dumb.

Just the millions who voted for Zero.

13 posted on 01/03/2010 6:38:29 AM PST by Rocko ("Too much of nothing can make a man a liar" -- Bob Dylan)
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To: kristinn
with apologists like Brennan at the helm, we are doomed to continue a rididculous screening system that profiles everyone as a terrorist except people who look and act like terrorists

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14 posted on 01/03/2010 6:39:30 AM PST by silverleaf (More folks were invited to the White House for Holiday parties than are being sent to Afghanistan)
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To: savedbygrace

And Obama needs firing. “No smoking gun” is the catch phrase Brennan was tasked by his boss to repeat in his propaganda sessions on the Sunday talk shows. He used it on Fox New Sunday also.


15 posted on 01/03/2010 6:39:35 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

These guys are political apparatchiks covering their behinds. But I think even they - and perhaps even a lot of the more powerful Dems - simply can’t admit to themselves that we now have a president who is on the side of our enemies and will do anything to destroy us.


16 posted on 01/03/2010 6:40:52 AM PST by livius
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To: kristinn
U.S. intelligence agencies did not miss a "smoking gun"...

So, it appears we have made a round-trip back to "The system worked." Government by incompetents.

17 posted on 01/03/2010 6:41:38 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: kristinn

In other words, the system worked perfectly.

Clearly they were operating under Obamao rules.


18 posted on 01/03/2010 6:41:54 AM PST by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: kristinn
"There is no smoking gun," Brennan said. "There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"

That's the entire point of intelligence sharing, you moron. The COLLECTIVE intel indicated a need for the perp to be on the no-fly list. But no one was able to piece it together - and it all fit together quite readily.

This statement alone shows Brennan needs to be fired - he apparently has no concept of data mining.

19 posted on 01/03/2010 6:41:54 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: kristinn
Like many things, we have to take care of business ourselves - don't count on [this] government.

Passengers intervened, and the plan failed.

This is how the health care takeover will be foiled. The creativity in the market will overcome it. It has to - that's what drives this nation - get it done.

20 posted on 01/03/2010 6:43:18 AM PST by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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To: kristinn

See, the idea is to catch them BEFORE there’s a “smoking gun.”

Interesting fact: The country is NOT rallying behind “the President” in this crisis. Because of the standard set by Bush and Cheney, the country EXPECTS “the President” to prevent such a crisis.


21 posted on 01/03/2010 6:44:13 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: kristinn
"There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"

Yeah, the fact that he bought a plane ticket is totally irrelevant.

22 posted on 01/03/2010 6:44:37 AM PST by raybbr (If you try to kiss your son on the head while he's running you WILL get a fat lip.)
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To: maggief; onyx; LucyT

Administration’s PantyGate Version #999.
They are going for a record!


23 posted on 01/03/2010 6:46:19 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: raybbr
Yeah, the fact that he bought a plane ticket is totally irrelevant.

One-way, at that. Just like the 9-11 hijackers.

24 posted on 01/03/2010 6:46:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: kristinn

Obama’s task in office, the task given to him by his puppet-masters: Destroy the United States while maintaining plausible deniability.

The idea is for Obama to do as much damage as possible without doing anything quite so overt as actually nuking any American cities.


25 posted on 01/03/2010 6:48:16 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: kristinn
"There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'"
Almost word for word after 9-11.

FBI: Maybe more terror clues missed
Meeting with reporters Wednesday, Mueller expressed more uncertainty than he had previously displayed on whether the September 11 attacks could possibly have been prevented.
He repeated his previous assertion that no single piece of intelligence available to the FBI would have revealed the plot.

Online NewsHour: Family Views -- April 9, 2004
MARGARET WARNER: What Dr. Rice said, of course, was that there was no real silver bullet that she believed would have prevented the attacks.
STEPHEN PUSH: Well, that's kind of a hedge. It has been one they have been using since Sept. 12, 2001. No, there is no single piece of intelligence, no single action that could have been taken. But there were a series of missteps.

This sh|t is getting old!

26 posted on 01/03/2010 6:51:11 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kristinn
No Smoking Gun

Oh, yes there was. But the dutch guy helped douse it.

27 posted on 01/03/2010 6:53:14 AM PST by P.O.E. (Happy New Year)
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To: kristinn; All

Is a father who warns the US Embassy a smoking gun?


28 posted on 01/03/2010 6:53:34 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective!)
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To: raybbr
"There was no single piece of intelligence that said, 'this guy is going to get on a plane.'".....

Yeah, the fact that he bought a ONE WAY plane ticket with cash and had no luggage to check on an international flight is totally irrelevant.

29 posted on 01/03/2010 6:54:45 AM PST by Mygirlsmom ($4,000 a night for the Obama vacation and all we got was a lousy terrorist attack.)
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To: philman_36

Hey Brennan, you freakin’ idiot, what about “when he purchased a ticket and walked about a plane”? Please resign in disgrace immediately. Stand on a street corner and allow us to throw garbage at you in retribution.


30 posted on 01/03/2010 6:54:49 AM PST by hal ogen
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To: kristinn

Here’s thought:

We had warnings that a “Nigerian” would try to get a bomb aboard a U.S. airliner.

The Saudis briefed the White House about the “underwear bomb”.

Based on these two indicators, we could have directed that all males with Nigerian passports be subjected to secondary screening prior to being allowed to board any U.S. airliner. Seems a reasonable approach to me.


31 posted on 01/03/2010 6:57:17 AM PST by centurion316
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To: dirtboy

One way, with no luggage, fresh out of Yemen with his father screaming his was going to the dark side and the government cleared his name on the pre-flight check from Amsterdam. I’d say the gun was cocked with the finger on the trigger.


32 posted on 01/03/2010 6:57:38 AM PST by kristinn (A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words.)
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To: kristinn

Dear Obama Administration:

Can you find Waldo?

33 posted on 01/03/2010 6:58:24 AM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree (Kenya tell me where Obama was born?)
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To: hal ogen
Somebody didn't get their Christmas present...?

34 posted on 01/03/2010 6:59:29 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: kristinn

Even just the one-way ticket should have flagged him for additional screening. No dot-connecting required. In a way, it shows Al Qaeda is too cheap to buy a round-trip ticket to avoid notice. On the other hand, it shows TSA is too stupid to follow its own basic guidelines.


35 posted on 01/03/2010 7:00:24 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: kristinn
Yes they actually do. They think that their “words” are enough to make us blindly follow. See, it worked with the campaign, but the facts and their “words” are now in different universes, as Rush suggests...the universe of lies and the universe of the truth. This can't go on much longer without it snapping. I think the media will be cursed for blindly following this charlatan.
36 posted on 01/03/2010 7:01:27 AM PST by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: kristinn

For additional “insider” information on the war on terror, much of which you will not have heard elsewhere, I invite all Freepers to visit and participate in The Terrorism and Intelligence Blog at http://terrorismandintelligence.blogspot.com/

Gunny, out


37 posted on 01/03/2010 7:06:03 AM PST by GunnyBob ("The truth hurts -- and pain builds character.")
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To: kristinn

This is like a receiver getting wide open in the end zone and the defenders telling their coach that they didn’t blow their coverage assignments.


38 posted on 01/03/2010 7:09:10 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: centurion316

Brennan is being a cya jackass on behalf of Obama here but the truth is we still don’t have the tools in place to stop a guy with this type of bomb unless we know he’s a bad guy.

That is not a formula for success. We’re in trouble here. This is a technical challenge. Intel no matter how good is going to ensure 100% safety now.


39 posted on 01/03/2010 7:09:47 AM PST by romanesq
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To: dirtboy
“Brennan said. “There was no single piece of intelligence that said, ‘this guy is going to get on a plane.’”

Where there is “no intelligence” is among the career dumba&&es and P.C. morons that infest the gubmint.

I seem to recall just a few weeks earlier that the very same group were talking about a certain mooselimb army officer and making the same lame excuses.

And a few weeks prior to that the “big story” was about how the administrations commie lap dog A.G. was going to grill and prosecute C.I.A. officers that had actually done something that might protect us from the actions of our enemies.

And who can forget the ever popular decision to move the gitmo terrorists to Manhattan and give them a civilian trial?

To anyone with a functioning brain cell not eaten up by the disease that is liberalism, it should be abundantly clear that Americas most dangerous and insidious enemies don't need to get on a plane to attack us, they're already hard at work in cushy government offices.

40 posted on 01/03/2010 7:09:55 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 393)
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To: kristinn

Are they going to use that excuse when some “isolated extremist” detonates a nuke from the top of Sears Tower?


41 posted on 01/03/2010 7:11:17 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: dirtboy; raybbr

One way, last minute - and in cash. $2,800 from Nigeria.

I got stopped, was interviewed and had my luggage tossed by security at Newark because I had gotten a last-minute ticket on Expedia to go to NYC (where I go fairly often because I grew up there, have family there, and lived there for much of my life). But I guess it’s different if you’re a terrorist-affiliated foreigner whose very own father has reported you...


42 posted on 01/03/2010 7:11:18 AM PST by livius
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To: kristinn
I hope this guy's estupido statement gets the play that Napolitano's estupido statement got.

She was not and will not be fired, nor will she resign, but at least she's recognized now as an inept fool......and she's skating on thin ice. One more slip of her forked tongue and she'll be out.

Hope this Dumb Dilbert "security adviser" for Obama eventually meets a similar fate.

Both of them are educated far beyond their competence.

Leni

43 posted on 01/03/2010 7:11:40 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly: 9/8/09: "Communism is not a threat to us anymore"-10/20/09: "Obama is not a Marxist")
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To: kristinn

You can’t see a smoking gun when the bullet is already through your forehead and exiting out where your cowlick used to be.

Did I do the wrong thing by giving up a military career in intelligence because of having to deal with blithering idiots like this dolt? YES! Because I would have been in the same boat with the CIA.


44 posted on 01/03/2010 7:21:14 AM PST by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate - West FL22nd - Dockery for Gov.)
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To: kristinn

That is because someone else bought his ticket, paid cash. He didn't even have a passport (per some reports). No luggage (per some reports).

And his father had just recently reported concerns to officials.

How much info does it take?
45 posted on 01/03/2010 7:23:19 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: livius

I was given extended screening last summer when I flew from Philly to Colorado. I guess because I was a bit sweaty, that made me a target. The fact that I had just finished checking two 40 pound duffle bags that I had transported via train and my back didn’t have anything to do with it to them. Meanwhile, this guy buys a one-way last-minute ticket in cash and gets no special screening. Maybe we need to ask terrorists to sweat more so someone notices them.


46 posted on 01/03/2010 7:24:24 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: kristinn

“We had bits and pieces of information,” Brennan said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” The father’s warning, he said, was “one set of data.”

That’s the very nature of intelligence. You’re expected to tie bits and pieces together based on experience, knowledge, and history. Rarely do you have the good fortune of having all of the ‘tiles’ that enable you to clearly see the full picture of the mosaic. It doesn’t get much easier than having the “father’s warning”; that was KEY information. A gift in intelligence terms. These people are rank amateurs.


47 posted on 01/03/2010 7:25:53 AM PST by Starboard
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To: bitterohiogunclinger; magslinger
Magslinger's dandy (and absolutely dead on!) sig line line about the current administration seems perfectly appropriate here:

"Cry 'Malaise!' and let slip the dogs of incompetence!"

48 posted on 01/03/2010 7:30:10 AM PST by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

‘this guy is going to get on a plane”
...
He is flying all over the world, Britain, Houston, Ghana, Yemen, and then detroit.

Geez why would ANYONE think he was going to get on a plane?

IS THIS GUY FOR REAL?

This is the danger of having Democrats in the CIA. (He was in CIA, now a Democrat Admin Member)


49 posted on 01/03/2010 7:30:49 AM PST by Marty62 (former Marty60)
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To: TomGuy
How much info does it take?

Well golly, he never blew up a plane with his underwear before. Why should we think he might do so now????????????????????????? :0/

50 posted on 01/03/2010 7:31:41 AM PST by paulycy (AMERICA: Less safe. Less free. More broke.)
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