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Suspected child molester slain by victim's relative
WRAL ^ | January 3, 2010

Posted on 01/03/2010 10:41:08 AM PST by NCjim

Concord, N.C. — The Cabarrus County Sheriff's Office says that a man charged with murder sought revenge on a man suspected of molesting his young relative.

WBTV, a CBS affiliate in Charlotte, reports that Christopher Michael Hartsell, 32, shot and killed William Lee Ballance, 47, in his residence in a small mobile home park early Friday.

Neighbors told WBTV that Hartsell had lived with Ballance, a convicted sex offender, until about a week ago. Around the same time that Hartsell moved out, rumors started that Ballance had molested a young relative of Hartsell.

On Thursday, the Cabarrus County Sheriff's Office issued warrants for Ballance's arrest on sex-related charges, including first-degree rape of a child. Ballance was slain before they could be served.

More details of the case aren't being reported to protect the victim's identity.

Hartsell was being held in the Cabarrus County Jail Saturday without bond.

Ballance was sentenced to 20 months' probation for a 1998 conviction for taking indecent liberties with a minor in Guilford County, according to state Department of Correction records. DOC records show he also got probation in 2007 for possession of a firearm by a felon.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: ballance; hartsell; sexoffender
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1 posted on 01/03/2010 10:41:08 AM PST by NCjim
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To: NCjim
Another illustration of the sheer stupidity of Megan's Law.

If the convicted sex offender was in prison doing a life (or death) sentence then this would not have happened.

2 posted on 01/03/2010 10:43:41 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: NCjim

As much as I hate to see anyone taking the law into their own hands,this seems Ok.
Child molestors should never be allowed back into society anyways.


3 posted on 01/03/2010 10:44:18 AM PST by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: Yorlik803

Agreed, there are other forms of justice. Sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated. That’s why you see so many old ones.


4 posted on 01/03/2010 10:48:12 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: NCjim
Needs to finish the job:

2) Shovel
3) Shut up

Nowhere in there does it say "Sheriff".

5 posted on 01/03/2010 10:50:12 AM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: NCjim

Treat these people just like serial killers. Because they are serial.

20 months probation?


6 posted on 01/03/2010 10:52:17 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: NCjim
rumors started that Ballance had molested a young relative of Hartsell.

I'd need more than rumors.

the Cabarrus County Sheriff's Office issued warrants for Ballance's arrest on sex-related charges, including first-degree rape of a child.

Hopefully they had more than rumors.

7 posted on 01/03/2010 10:54:46 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Molon Labbie

Yeah, just cap those 13 and 14 year old girls too huh?
They are classified as “sex offenders” as well. And so are people who get put on the list for peeing on the side of the road. Look it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTu7y5De3Cc

I am glad people like you aren’t in charge.


8 posted on 01/03/2010 10:54:48 AM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: NCjim

Confusing. Sounds lie a bunch of hillbilly honkys.


9 posted on 01/03/2010 10:56:01 AM PST by IbJensen (A Prayer for Obama (Ps 109.8): "Let his days be few; and let another take his position.")
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To: Soothesayer9

Most have an emotional reaction and not a rational one.


10 posted on 01/03/2010 10:56:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: NCjim

I hope the guy who murdered the “suspect” (not guilty until proven guilty which protects you, me, and the rest of the innocent world from thugs who take the law into their own hands) gets the death penalty. IT IS NEVER OK TO KILL A SUSPECT FOR A CRIME HE HASN’T BEEN CONVICTED OF UNLESS HE MEANS YOU IMMINENT DANGER.


11 posted on 01/03/2010 10:59:23 AM PST by Engineer_Soldier (Capped this decade my joining three gun groups in one hour...Rocky Mountain Gunowners, GOA, and NRA!)
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To: Soothesayer9

Please get over yourself. We aren’t talking about guys peeing on the road after a long night of getting their drink on (which I agree is an archaic law), or kids sexting. We are talking the most likely offenders, adult males who predate on children or commit forcible rape or sodomy.


12 posted on 01/03/2010 11:00:06 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: NCjim

The world ‘allegedly’ doesn’t appear once. Isn’t it standard practice to use it about a dozen times?


13 posted on 01/03/2010 11:03:59 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, islam will cover the earth with darkness for a thousand years.)
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To: Molon Labbie

Yeah. Screw things like the right to trial by a jury of one’s peers. Cletus, fetch me mah rope. Yee Haw...


14 posted on 01/03/2010 11:04:56 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: NCjim
If found to be true and this turd did molest this child, and this relative did do this then just 2 words:

Jury nullification.

And the thanks of a grateful community.

15 posted on 01/03/2010 11:07:14 AM PST by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: NCjim

These two men were “living together” ...so how long had they known one another and how well? Was this a case of ‘birds of a feather’?

I would like more information on this relationship between the shooter/killer and the molester/parolee before rendering a verdict.

The parents of the young victim must be going through a guilty hell.


16 posted on 01/03/2010 11:10:01 AM PST by sodpoodle (Stop wasting our wealth and start telling the truth.)
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To: Molon Labbie
Sex offenders cannot be rehabilitated.

Underreporting Clouds Attempt to Count Repeat Sex Offenders

Conventional wisdom says people released after serving time for sex crimes are likely to strike again. The numbers aren't as certain.

Among convicted criminals released from prison, sex offenders released from prison are less likely to be arrested for any new crime than most other offenders, with the notable exception of murderers, researchers say. Child molesters' rate of recidivism is at least as low as the group of sex offenders taken as a whole. Abusers of children within their own family have a lower rate still.

17 posted on 01/03/2010 11:12:06 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Sins, how many kids does a guy get to victimize until he gets the rope?

The “justice” he got may have been “imperfect justice” but it was justice. And if played well in front of a jury, may be justified.

If the court system did what it was supposed to do the first time, we probably would not be having this discussion. More than a few people think that the justice system has failed to protect the people by incarcerating dangerous offenders for extended periods of time. I am one of them.

If anyone here has been the victim of violent crime, it was most assuredly done by a repeat offender.


18 posted on 01/03/2010 11:14:26 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: NCjim

Anyone molests my children and the better HOPE the cops get him before I do.

Not guilty.


19 posted on 01/03/2010 11:16:33 AM PST by Hammerhead
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To: DJ MacWoW

And some victims never report what happened to them. A case I worked, the victim came forward TEN years after the rapes. The guy had all the indications of being a serial predator but was always able to convince the victims, who were family not to testify.

He did the same thing in my case. Victim daughter refused to testify.

Whatever the numbers, NO ONE wants these guys living by them or interacting with their kids.


20 posted on 01/03/2010 11:18:57 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: Molon Labbie

And what of those who have been falsely accused of sex crimes? (There have been many of those too). In your kind of ideal world, it would be easy to have someone killed by accusing them of ghastly crimes, which is why a justice system exists in the first place.
The solution is to have punishments for those fairly convicted to be tightened, not give any yahoo the licence to lynch anyone on the basis of ‘rumours’. This guy needs to be prosecuted for murder and punished accordingly...


21 posted on 01/03/2010 11:21:25 AM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Molon Labbie
That's anecdotal and of little use.

The man in this story was accused. The story gives no evidence and only notes rumor.In this country, we don't kill because of a rumor.

22 posted on 01/03/2010 11:23:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I'd need more than rumors.

Presumably the relative of the victim, and roommate of the child molester, had more than just rumors.

23 posted on 01/03/2010 11:28:27 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: mvpel

You said “presumably”. Not good enough for sanctioning murder.


24 posted on 01/03/2010 11:36:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Understand DJ, that I do NOT condone vigilantism, I just understand why people do it. More empathy than necessarily sympathy.

When I say there are other forms of justice, I also mean Karma, Fate, a divine justice if that’s your flavor.

Sure, there have been folks wrongly accused of sex crimes, it’s just been my personal and professional experience that the leopard doesn’t change it’s spots. I don’t know how many of the SO’s you have sat across from but they got some really sick notions.


25 posted on 01/03/2010 11:48:14 AM PST by Molon Labbie
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To: NCjim

Not guilty.Due to prior convictions of the accused for a start.


26 posted on 01/03/2010 11:54:08 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Molon Labbie

One outcome of this mess is the “Criminal Justice System” lost a repeat client. A criminal lawyer is crying somewhere. ;0)


27 posted on 01/03/2010 11:56:39 AM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: Molon Labbie

I have friends who have a prison ministry that works only with sex offenders. Some of them are very sick people. But there are others who really do change. When you make blanket statements that aren’t backed by numbers, when you have an emotional response rather than a reasoned one, you shut out those who have changed. Those who are horrified by their acts. Some had drug and alcohol problems and once clean and sober, they lead productive lives. I’ve even met a few who weren’t guilty. They spend their lives in fear, shunning children or woman so that they are never accused again.


28 posted on 01/03/2010 11:59:01 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: seemoAR

Really. He was convicted before he was murdered?


29 posted on 01/03/2010 12:00:32 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Soothesayer9

It seems that the sex offender has been this decade’s version of the 1950s communist, a cancer for people to take the law into their own hands to deal with with the police’s approval. I’ve never known how to feel about the situation. On one hand there is the idea that the person has served their sentence when released and those convicted of sex crimes for situations like those you speak of (sex with a minor when they were only a few years older or someone who urinated on the side of the road when children happened to pass). On the other hand are those who say that a sex offender can never change.


30 posted on 01/03/2010 12:06:46 PM PST by chargers fan
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To: SERE_DOC
Jury nullification.

Deputy Dwayne Powell Looney: I got a little girl. Somebody rapes her, he's a dead dog. I'll blow him away just like Carl Lee did.

D.A. Rufus Buckley: Objection your Honor!

Jake Tyler Brigance: Do you think the jury should convict Carl Lee Hailey?

Judge Omar Noose: Don't answer that question.

Deputy Dwayne Powell Looney: He's a hero. You turn him loose.

A Time to Kill (1996)

31 posted on 01/03/2010 12:09:30 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Among convicted criminals released from prison, sex offenders released from prison are less likely to be arrested for any new crime than most other offenders, with the notable exception of murderers, researchers say. Child molesters' rate of recidivism is at least as low as the group of sex offenders taken as a whole. Abusers of children within their own family have a lower rate still.

I've posted this info before, you and I may be the only ones that believe it.

Another canard is that sex offenders get killed in prison. Fact is very few of them do. Many if not most prisons segregate sex offenders and if someone doesn't want to believe that they need to check their local offenders list. It will be packed with ex cons.

32 posted on 01/03/2010 12:14:33 PM PST by Graybeard58 ("Get lost, Mitt. You're the Eddie Haskell of the Republican party." (Finny))
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To: Graybeard58

My friends in prison ministry said that the cons used to fix the food for the sex offenders until they put staples in it. They then had the offenders fix their own.


33 posted on 01/03/2010 12:17:01 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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Comment #34 Removed by Moderator

To: Spike Knotts; Admin Moderator; chargers fan

You know what, I think I’m a total idiot and completely misunderstood you.

I apologize, I’m a total moron. Admin_moderator, kindly remove the post above.


35 posted on 01/03/2010 12:48:33 PM PST by Spike Knotts
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

yeah,,because that has worked SOOOOOOO well!!!


36 posted on 01/03/2010 1:20:32 PM PST by annelizly
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To: annelizly

Its better than what you would advocate...


37 posted on 01/03/2010 1:51:55 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: annelizly

It is illegal to murder someone for an accusation.


38 posted on 01/03/2010 2:03:22 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

If he hadn’t been stopped he would have been in the Criminal Justice system for years and his lawyers would have made money. It all depends on the meaning of the word “guilty”. Money can buy a criminal’s innocence. Does that really make him innocent?


39 posted on 01/03/2010 2:38:52 PM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: seemoAR

It is illegal to murder someone on an accusation. We are a nation of laws and rights. If you want to chuck them, you are on the wrong site.


40 posted on 01/03/2010 2:43:54 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I was going to answer you. I decided against it. Something about arguing with a fence post popped up in my mind. :0)


41 posted on 01/03/2010 3:03:03 PM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Here's a WAS.

When you break up with your boyfriend, spread rumours that he's a kiddie fiddler. When the rumours take hold, kill him. Hope one person on the jury goes OJ.

42 posted on 01/03/2010 3:05:18 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Life is a tragedy for those who feel, but a comedy to those who think. - Horace Walpole)
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To: seemoAR

You didn’t argue because there is no argument. That’s why you insulted instead. You take away someone elses rights and you lessen yours. That’s something that liberals never understand. I hope you do. Either we follow our laws and the Constitution or we chuck it all.


43 posted on 01/03/2010 3:11:46 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Possible. And it may be that the man was guilty. But I prefer a trial first. I take it that you do too.


44 posted on 01/03/2010 3:13:13 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You are wrong about my reasons.


45 posted on 01/03/2010 3:14:55 PM PST by seemoAR (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, dazzle them with bull.)
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To: seemoAR

So you believe that we can ignore laws and the Constitution?


46 posted on 01/03/2010 3:27:31 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What are you saying? They don’t reoffend that often? If so, did you read the whole article? The title says that it’s hard to know because the victims often tell no one. Therefore the observed rate is below the actual rate of reoffense. The articla notes that when the abuse happens inside of a family, the incident is less likely to be reported.

From the article:

“Most researchers agree crimes committed after a first brush with law enforcement count as recidivism, detected or not. But Ohio Northern University criminologist Keith Durkin points to anonymous surveys in which sex offenders admit to as many undetected offenses as the number for which they have been caught. He views 50% as a conservative estimate for recidivism.”

In reality it’s probably much higher. How many sex offenders are likely to trust anonymous surveys and report the truth. Some studies have suggested that these predators have dozens of victims before they are caught.


47 posted on 01/03/2010 3:27:35 PM PST by Round 9
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To: Round 9
Take the article as a whole.

One reason for the numerical confusion may be that supporters of sex-offender registries who say sex offenders are more likely than not to re-offend are considering the rate of repeat sex offenses of sex criminals compared with the rate of sex offenses of prisoners released for other crimes.

Obviously they are mixing apples and oranges so there are no clear numbers. HOWEVER the author felt safe in saying what he did at teh beginning of teh article.

48 posted on 01/03/2010 3:36:23 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Molon Labbie
When you make blanket statements that aren’t backed by numbers

I've seen no stats proving that recidivism amongst child molesters is not exponentially more the rule than the exception....your Christian friend's ministries notwithstanding.

Declaring that child molesters are incorrigible is no more inaccurate than saying it's often cloudy in Dublin.

49 posted on 01/03/2010 5:11:59 PM PST by wardaddy (Ole Miss beat Oklahoma State....we're not snobs, we're just special)
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To: wardaddy

Then you read the article that I posted?


50 posted on 01/03/2010 5:17:08 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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