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Sarkozy cools toward Obama [has now shifted from a pro-Bush position to an anti-Obama position]
The Global Times of China ^ | December 29, 2009 | Staff

Posted on 01/03/2010 11:10:43 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

French President Nicolas Sarkozy has gone cold on his US counterpart Barack Obama, the Financial Times (FT) reported Monday.

Sarkozy, whose pro-Washington stance has seen him nicknamed "Sarko the American," stressed that France and the US were "the same family" during his first face-to-face meeting with Obama in April since the US elections last year.

But the French president has clashed since then with his US counterpart on a series of issues, raising the question of whether Sarkozy is reverting to the anti-US posture of his predecessor, Jacques Chirac.

"He has now shifted from a pro-Bush position to an anti-Obama position," the FT quoted Jean-Christophe Cambadélis, international affairs spokesman for the opposition Socialists, as saying.

Obama's irritation with his French counterpart began when Sarkozy tried to grab the limelight at the G20 summit in London in April and talked condescendingly of the US President in private.

Sarkozy told colleagues that he found Obama to be inexperienced and unbriefed, especially on climate change, according to The Times of London.

In September, the French president expressed his frustration over how to deal with Iran's nuclear ambitions and the priority that Obama attaches to the long-term goal of a world free of nuclear weapons. The French government also refused a US request to send more troops to Afghanistan, while several other European allies are planning to do so.

The French press often publishes Sarkozy's unflattering comments about Obama's lack of prior government experience, his alleged difficulty in reaching decisions or his domestic electoral setbacks.

"The paradox of the situation is that in terms of the relationship with the US, he can do a Chirac in that he can criticize the Americans but he can do it from a position that is 180 degrees different from Chirac," the FT quoted François Heisbourg, an adviser to the Foundation for Strategic Research, a Paris-based think tank, as saying.

"He can play to a habitual anti-American standpoint but not from a position that is fundamentally anti-American," he added.


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Grown-ups who've reached their high positions through years of hard work, competition, study and merit usually don't suffer fools gladly, from what I've seen. Especially fools in important jobs.
1 posted on 01/03/2010 11:10:43 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think both of the world socialists can go to hell:

Carbon Tax BS

2 posted on 01/03/2010 11:18:17 AM PST by Bernard Marx (I don’t trust the reasoning of anyone who writes then when they mean than.)
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To: Bernard Marx
"He has now shifted from a pro-Bush position to an anti-Obama position ..."

Hey, I have done the exact same thing!

3 posted on 01/03/2010 11:23:01 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No they don’t. So now it is news people are cooling on the zero.

The last election proved that our country is over populated by fools. I can cut some slack to the urban blacks who voted for the zero but not to the so-called educated class who did.


4 posted on 01/03/2010 11:25:50 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whatever one thinks of him on any particular issue, Sarko is a serious man who has worked enormously hard to understand the world, govt, and public affairs. How could someone like him respect a neophyte dilettante like Obambi, whose Messiah complex and sense of entitlement displays some of the worst aspects of the so-called “Ugly American” to other world leaders......

.... sure, Obambi stands in HUGE ways for US supplication to the UN, EU, and all of the world......so ppl might assume that many other world political ldrs adore him for being the anti-Bush etc...... but otoh, Obambi is an arrogant know-it-all twit who was not competent for his role as a rookie US Senator, never mind as a rookie “world leader” who knows less about so many matters than the Prime Minister of East Butt####........ Obambi must annoy and offend many world leaders even in instances when they might agree and seek the same policy etc. Let’s face it, it’s possible to dislike or even despise someone even when you may share a lot of views and goals with them, and I’ll bet a lot of the world’s socialist leaders condescend to or even detest Obambi in private, even if they maintain outward respect for “political” reasons.

Sarko at least is capable of some independent thought and action now and then, even if he is too mired in Euro-socialist policies still..... but probably no one at all more skeptical of Euro-govt and socialist policies could rise or get elected to much of anything in France or most EU nations.


5 posted on 01/03/2010 11:36:56 AM PST by Enchante (Do we really send captured TERRORISTS off to Saudi-land and Yemen so they can be "REHABILITATED"?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...raising the question of whether Sarkozy is reverting to the anti-US posture..."

Sarkozy isn't anti-US. He's anti-obama. That makes him pro-USA in my book.

6 posted on 01/03/2010 11:37:42 AM PST by skimbell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Sarkozy told colleagues that he found Obama to be inexperienced and unbriefed”

Conservatives did the same thing years ago, but not enough people listened.


7 posted on 01/03/2010 11:55:30 AM PST by ScottinVA (The arrogance of this Congress is staggering. November 2010 can't get here quickly enough.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This happened about 4 mos. ago.

You will love the bit between 3:20 - 3:53.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbB_fhC8Ppk


8 posted on 01/03/2010 11:58:29 AM PST by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: skimbell

Sarkozy is the FIRST french president (I was born there) who LOVES America and, by the way, who is also capitalist...only, changing a country where workers will go on a one month strike if they don’t like the color of the bathroom is not an easy task - also when you have a country, socialist since such a long time, where you get more money NOT working and be on welfare - TAKE A LESSON HERE - poor Sarkozy - not easy to go back to capitalism when you have 30 years of socialism installed in the mind of people. I sincerely wish him well and hope he will be able to repeal some of the damages. But he IS totally pro - America - he must have been so chocked to see us elect a guy like that zero...shameful for us..so shameful.


9 posted on 01/03/2010 11:59:45 AM PST by American Dream 246
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To: Enchante

Recall the pics of osama-obama with Sarko in the background smirkin’ or just outright laughin’! Remember Sarko’s quote, “Est-il faible?” (Is he feeble-minded?) Sarko’s wrong about AGW, but he’s no weenie!


10 posted on 01/03/2010 11:59:51 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jerry Lewis fades to Pee-Wee Herman


11 posted on 01/03/2010 12:07:43 PM PST by spokeshave (Albore can uninvent the internet about as well as 0bama can unjump the shark)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Not to mention Mrs. BamBam giving Mrs. Sarko the evil eye!


12 posted on 01/03/2010 12:08:16 PM PST by workerbee (My cat would be a better president than the Resident!)
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To: Cincinna; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.
13 posted on 01/03/2010 12:08:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, this is just dandy.


14 posted on 01/03/2010 12:11:04 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“He can play to a habitual anti-American standpoint but not from a position that is fundamentally anti-American,” he added.”

That’s because Obama is anti-American. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.


15 posted on 01/03/2010 12:11:32 PM PST by Magic Fingers
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From Newsmax...

Soon after Barack Obama won the White House, French President Nicolas Sarkozy referred to him as “my friend” and strove to become the first European leader to meet with the newly elected American.

Now the honeymoon between the two leaders is over, according to The Financial Times.

Sarkozy has now shifted to "an anti-Obama position,” said Jean-Christophe Cambadelis, a spokesman for the opposition Socialists.

France turned down an American request to send more troops to Afghanistan, and Sarkozy has expressed frustration at what he perceives as Obama’s equivocation over Iran’s nuclear program and at the priority Obama has placed on the long-term goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons, the Times reports.

In a sharply worded speech to the United Nations General Assembly in September, Sarkozy alluded to Obama’s disarmament goals.

“We are right to talk about the future, but before the future there is the present, and the present is two major nuclear crises,” he said, referring to Iran and North Korea.. “We are living in a real world, not a virtual world.”

16 posted on 01/03/2010 12:23:55 PM PST by Bob Eimiller (appeasement "it's the idea that if you feed the alligator he will eat you last." Winston Churchill)
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To: workerbee

17 posted on 01/03/2010 12:25:04 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What kind of a stupid, nonsensical news article is this? A communist paper referencing the FT quoting a socialist opponent of Sarkozy speculating and reading Sarkozy’s mind and divining his intentions! And this wishful thinking counts as breaking news?


18 posted on 01/03/2010 12:25:50 PM PST by nwrep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least he has figured out that Barry is all smoke and mirrors.....


19 posted on 01/03/2010 12:38:52 PM PST by cranked
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarkozy was put off of Obama when the Royal Couple visited Paris but refused the usual invitation to a state dinner. Instead, they chose to dine out in a restaurant by themselves.

Sarkozy showed his anger at the UN summit when Obama repeatedly cut and avoided him, but spent the whole time cozying up to Muslima and Communist dictators. Gordon Brown actually had to cut through the kitchen to reach Obama, who then ignored him anyway.

Obama has deliberately and repeatedly insulted almost all our European allies PERSONALLY, as well as thumbing his nose at them politically.

No doubt Sarkozy disapproves of Obama’s positions on defense, the economy, and other international issues. But he must also resent the constant stream of personal insults. You just don’t do that to your major allies. Not if you are supposed to be POTUS. Because your every move is scrutinized. One slip of etiquette might be a mistake, but were’s talking about hundreds of slips at this point. And they’re clearly not slips; they’re deliberate insults.


20 posted on 01/03/2010 12:59:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nwrep

Actually, the only error in this report is that Sarkozy was put off Obama much earlier than this writer seems to realize. And he couldn’t have made it clearer than in his UN speech and in several other more recent comments.


21 posted on 01/03/2010 1:01:00 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: nwrep; Admin Moderator
"What kind of a stupid, nonsensical news article is this? A communist paper referencing the FT quoting a socialist opponent of Sarkozy speculating and reading Sarkozy’s mind and divining his intentions! And this wishful thinking counts as breaking news?"

When I posted it, I placed this thread in extended, and the mods changed the headline and put it in breaking, so you need to speak with them. However, maybe this will convince you: Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”. He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation. Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily. Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Thursday, 30 April 2009 Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy. A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits. One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe. Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.” “In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.” “There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked. He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.” “There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?” He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.” “What does Sarkozy think of him?” “Nothing but contempt.” After a pause he asked, “And Langley?” “Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is. They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.” He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?” He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there. Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.” He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…” He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine. “The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded. “You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this. They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.” He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing. We are not sure what to do.” It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.” It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.” I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.” “What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?” I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.” It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.

22 posted on 01/03/2010 1:12:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK, I understand. But the story yoy reference above may be true, but still contains anonymous sources. It could be Dr. Wheeler telling our side what we want to hear. In any case, I would rather place my trust with the people of this country at the ballot box than with some anonymous French ex-intelligence agent who may or may not exist. Relying on France for anything is like relying on a third world country.


23 posted on 01/03/2010 1:21:52 PM PST by nwrep
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for that comment. It really sheds some light on the current French mindset regarding the great Zero.


24 posted on 01/03/2010 1:22:01 PM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: workerbee

holy crap

her face is one of anger, bitterness and total jealousy


25 posted on 01/03/2010 1:42:00 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

France isn’t the only country either which has got pissed off wit obama.

I have family over in the UKm Italy and Malta and all of them are now saying how more and mroe are pissed off with obama, how he shows no leadership, how he is to dumb to understand international events and how he is just way over his head

the problem here is that he is losing allies, allies who has lost their men and women helping us

Obama cares about Islam and muslims and that is it which is not a surprise when one sees this video, knows about not wanting a nativity scene, not gong ot church, does not presents at Christmas and how he has appeased muslims from the get go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=player_embedded

the media here might ignore things like this video but more and mroe are seeing that this man is a phony who is being run from Soros and then Rahm , Axelrod


26 posted on 01/03/2010 1:46:52 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: nwrep
>> A communist paper <<

Hey, communist newspapers aren't always bad. See:

http://life.globaltimes.cn/photo1/2009-08/458801.html

Is anybody here qualified to analyze the pros and cons Bikini Communism?

27 posted on 01/03/2010 1:56:28 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; nwrep

Very interesting stuff. No way to prove it, obviously, but it certainly sounds possible to me.

As for Obama’s background, it’s very possible that a combination of the CIA and French and British intelligence could dig up some very interesting stuff. The French have a lot of connections in Africa. The British were the former colonizers of Kenya. And it’s possible that they have stuff like birth records from the period before Kenya was recognized.

Sarkozy and Brown have been repeatedly demeaned and insulted by Obama, and it’s not just personal—it amounts to an insult to their countries as well. Who knows, even Angela Merkel might be able to put her hands on some interessting stuff from the time that Raila Odinga was educated in East Germany.

Normally, they would be hesitant to do this sort of thing against an ally. But it’s increasingly obvious that Obama is not an ally. He has kicked the Special Relationship into the gutter, betrayed the Poles, and insulted virtually every political leader in Europe, although the way round to Queen Elizabeth and the Norwegian Royal Family.


28 posted on 01/03/2010 2:02:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: manc

That is one hateful woman. Downright scary, that face is, and not just because it’s ugly.


29 posted on 01/03/2010 2:06:56 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

France’s Sarkozy Now ‘Anti-Obama’

Soon after Barack Obama won the White House, French President Nicolas Sarkozy referred to him as “my friend” and strove to become the first European leader to meet with the newly elected American.

Now the honeymoon between the two leaders is over, according to The Financial Times.

Sarkozy has now shifted to “an anti-Obama position,” said Jean-Christophe Cambadelis, a spokesman for the opposition Socialists.

France turned down an American request to send more troops to Afghanistan, and Sarkozy has expressed frustration at what he perceives as Obama’s equivocation over Iran’s nuclear program and at the priority Obama has placed on the long-term goal of eliminating all nuclear weapons, the Times reports.

In a sharply worded speech to the United Nations General Assembly in September, Sarkozy alluded to Obama’s disarmament goals.

“We are right to talk about the future, but before the future there is the present, and the present is two major nuclear crises,” he said, referring to Iran and North Korea. “We are living in a real world, not a virtual world.”

http://news.newsmax.com/?ZK4RaZGjCP8P5uXL41PRKusHDQlkNfUAZ


30 posted on 01/03/2010 2:07:42 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Hawthorn

I’ve been looking up what bikini means & cannot find a relevant reference to explain your usage..


31 posted on 01/03/2010 2:10:03 PM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: Red_Devil 232

so am I,,since Barry was running for office,,,,and every day,my anti-barry position increases!


32 posted on 01/03/2010 2:10:03 PM PST by proudusvet
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Cicero
Sarkozy told colleagues that he found Obama to be inexperienced and unbriefed, especially on climate change, according to The Times of London.

From what I can determine, this means Sarkozy wanted Obama to promise more drastic "climate chane goals," i. e. we should destroy our economy at least as much as Europe. Sarkozy ain't my hero. However, the Sarkozy news is interesting because Obama thinks everybody loves him.

33 posted on 01/03/2010 2:12:47 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Was he talking to only one person?)
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To: Chgogal

That is hilarious!! I love the look on Sarkozy’s face, pure disgust. He looks like he wants to slap that little dweeb in the face.


34 posted on 01/03/2010 2:13:02 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: workerbee
She gives her the evil eye and gets in her face here. I can't tell if she is trying to hit on Carla or get into a cat fight and don't even get me started on the wookies little pony tail. I can't believe her hair looked like that and her summer picnic dress was totally inappropriate.
35 posted on 01/03/2010 2:20:44 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe
dress was totally inappropriate.

It usually is!

36 posted on 01/03/2010 2:22:00 PM PST by workerbee (My cat would be a better president than the Resident!)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I agree! But Sarko is a big improvement over Chirac. And,,, I think the “Est-il faible?” remark was very telling!
BTW, have you been here for a nice concise reading about AGW?
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html


37 posted on 01/03/2010 2:23:01 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: chuck_the_tv_out

Click on the URL in my post.


38 posted on 01/03/2010 2:27:14 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Las Vegas Ron; LucyT; BP2; MHGinTN; manc; 444Flyer; XenaLee; Fred Nerks

When I posted it, I placed this thread in extended, and the mods changed the headline and put it in breaking, so you need to speak with them. However, maybe this will convince you: Dr. Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews “an online geopolitical intelligence service”. He has had two parallel careers: one in the field of adventure and exploration as the owner of Jack Wheeler Expeditions; the other in the field of political and economic freedom as president of the Freedom Research Foundation. Wheeler’s articles are also published by WebNetDaily. Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler Thursday, 30 April 2009 Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy.

A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrées and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I’d known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE – Direction générale de la sécurité extérieure (General Directorate for External Security), France’s military intel agency – in Paris has its decided benefits. One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. “My agency considers him a joke,” he confides. “Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe.

Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh.” “In truth, it also makes us sad,” he continued. “French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America – America The Great! – do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man.” “There are many people in America who think he isn’t a legitimate president as he wasn’t born in the US and isn’t a natural citizen. What do you think?” I asked.

He shrugged. “I wouldn’t know. I’ve never had reason to make an inquiry.” “There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?” He didn’t shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, “I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America’s best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction.”

“What does Sarkozy think of him?” “Nothing but contempt.” After a pause he asked, “And Langley?” “Well, if you thought the war they waged against Bush was intense, it was nothing compared to how they’re going to screw Obama. He has tried to gut them with the ‘torture memo’ release and slashing their budgets. The morale is depressed, sullen, and enraged. You know what a left-wing outfit Langley is.

They thought he was their boy and they feel betrayed. All kinds of damaging stuff on him will be appearing via their media friends.” He nodded. “And in Tel Aviv City?” He was referring to the huge underground city complex of Langley’s underneath the US Embassy in the Israeli capital. “That’s an interesting question. You know how vast and deep the relationship is there.

Langley is making every effort to overcome the total and massive distrust their Israeli colleagues have for Obama, whom they know is selling them down the Jordan River. So far though this effort is in words. The Israelis are waiting to see what Langley does.” He said nothing. I smiled. “You guys wouldn’t be Langley’s cutout for thwarting BO regarding Israel, would you? I’d never suspect that…” He continued to say nothing, gave me only a slight smile in return, and poured me another glass of wine.

“The Bordeaux is good, yes?” I nodded. “You know, the French media worships this man the same as yours in the US. All of this ‘100 days’ talk, it is impossibly stupid. Most anyone in the French elite, the business leaders, Sarko’s people, they all know this.

They all think this is some crazy joke of the Americans. But it is a very, very dangerous joke. For 100 days your president has been a laughingstock among the tout le monde of Paris. No one may be laughing 100 days or 10 months from now.”

He leaned forward. “The world can go – how do you say – sideways with this man very quickly. No one he has working for him knows what they are doing – possibly excepting Mrs. Clinton – and he certainly does not. All of us in our little community are worried – us, our friends in Berlin, London, Tel Aviv, and Langley too as you say. It is not like the barbarians at the gates. It is every barbarian horde in the world being told there are no gates. The Somalis, Chavez, Iran, Putin, Beijing, the ‘Norks” as you call them, the list is long and it is growing.

We are not sure what to do.” It took me a moment to respond. “The best thing that has happened now is Obama making Langley his enemy. They will be cooperating with you more, be more a part of your worried community. Working together, you can undermine his efforts more effectively, block and maybe even repair the damage.”

It was my turn to lean forward. “Then again, all together you could be more pro-active. The man is a mystery. Nobody can make public his actual birth certificate, or even the particular hospital he was born in, or his college grades, or how he got into Harvard, or how he made editor of the Harvard Law Review and never wrote a single article for it. It goes on and on. He really is a Zero. I think all of you guys should find all of this out and make it known.” I added, “The quicker the better, before the laughing stops and the real dangers begin.”

“What is that phrase you use?” he asked. “Something to consider?” I laughed. “Yes, there is much to consider – and much that you can do. I mean, really, if the Soviet Union could be dismantled, so can this presidency.” It was a beautiful April afternoon in Paris. He walked me back to my hotel. It could be that the times we live in may get even more interesting.

39 posted on 01/03/2010 2:31:15 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: skimbell
>> makes him pro-USA in my book <<

You got that one right for sure!

Stated otherwise, if I remember my symbolic logic correctly,

-Ø ≡ +US

40 posted on 01/03/2010 2:36:42 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
“Est-il faible?”

Le plus faible!

Your link claims that 3% of CO2 is man made but This paper from FReeper palmer says that we don't have any accurate way to measure the human CO2 contribution. He thinks 3% is too high.

41 posted on 01/03/2010 3:10:41 PM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Joe Wilson said "You lie!" in a room full of 500 politicians. Was he talking to only one person?)
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To: Cicero

“No doubt Sarkozy disapproves of Obama’s positions on defense, the economy, and other international issues. But he must also resent the constant stream of personal insults. You just don’t do that to your major allies. Not if you are supposed to be POTUS. Because your every move is scrutinized. One slip of etiquette might be a mistake, but were’s talking about hundreds of slips at this point. And they’re clearly not slips; they’re deliberate insults.”

This crap started with the dvd boxed set to g. brown (or arguably the churchill bust before that, though that wasn’t personal against a foreign leader), and has been non-stop since then.

My personal un-favorite was using the 70s anniversary of the soviet invasion of poland to can the missile defense deal. I just wonder if the russians asked for that date in particular or it was his own idea.


42 posted on 01/03/2010 3:20:45 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“I can cut some slack to the urban blacks who voted for the zero but not to the so-called educated class who did.”
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Polls say that Obama’s biggest support other than the ninety some percent of the black vote came from the least educated and the MOST HIGHLY educated. I find that very troubling, is it not possible to obtain an advanced degree without losing contact with reality?


43 posted on 01/03/2010 3:29:41 PM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: WoofDog123

Actually, the biggest insult to Brown was that when he made his first visit to Washington, as the head of America’s closest and most important ally, Obama said he was too tired to invite him for dinner at the White House. That was absolutely unheard of.

Obama has a constant stream of dinner parties for his elite pals, but he is always too tired or bored to throw a party for important heads of state, or to do the honors properly when he travels abroad.

The only exception I can think of was when he finally gave a dinner for India. But that was after having snubbed India repeatedly for most of a year.


44 posted on 01/03/2010 3:30:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I didn’t realize he had snubbed him on a state dinner.

To the degree these same euro leaders who kissed up to his red-carpet campaign tour are getting what they deserve, it is amusing. Unfortunately we are stuck with him and his policy decisions too.....which is a nightmare.


45 posted on 01/03/2010 3:47:37 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: RipSawyer

I actually haven’t seen the breakdown. It would be interesting to see the stats.


46 posted on 01/03/2010 3:59:01 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: mojitojoe

Oh thank you for that! I tried to read it, I put my curser on each line to try to keep my place. Finally just gave up.


47 posted on 01/03/2010 4:21:35 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: GnuHere

I grew up on the street, had many a fight on the street, did many years in the military and have been boxing for about 15 years and now teach it and I’ll tell you what.

If I could ever get any of my boxers doing a face like that in the ring I think they would win without a punch being thrown because in all my life I can honestly say that os one of the most scariest faces I have ever seen


48 posted on 01/03/2010 4:39:48 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If France ever wanted to break their losing streak in wars, now would be the time to declare war on the US. No doubt that zero would declare unilateral surrender immediately.


49 posted on 01/03/2010 4:42:36 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Liberals are nothing more than drooling buffoons. Spread the word.)
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To: mojitojoe

we are now finding out that our allies are saying piss off to bozo.

Never have I seen so many of our allies being pissed on in such a short time and yes while some might say so what who cares etc the fact remains we do need allies like the UK.

I have family over in Europe and the word is that they think obama has no leadership, could not point Europe out on a map, has no clue what so ever about international events and he is way over his head.

Not bad seeing as this phony said the world would now love us.

still he cares about islam and the muslim nations

you seen this Joe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=player_embedded


50 posted on 01/03/2010 4:43:00 PM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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